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[Doom_Bringer]

Thanks for the link I will read it later!

Yes, my definition of paradigm shift was narrow and from a corporate/enterprise point of view. But it is simple and precise; I really doubt many forums readers (who are not business students) would understand that stuff in the link.

 

[Inumaru]

Yes, I expect the Revolution™ to cause a great shi(f)t in the gaming public's Weltanschauung.

No, not really. I just wanted to use that word. Actually, I believe the Revolution will be a radical new tech that will allow us to control games by applying a N-Stylus™ directly to any TV screen, thereby eliminating the artificial, difficult, and fun-inhibiting aspect of the horror we now know as the "Controller". Brightly colored static discharge wrist straps and auto-grounding kneepads will be sold as accessories.

"Get real close to the TV kids, it's time to play Nintendo FunSphere™!"

 

[Deg]

The bit at the end says they want to 'extend gaming'.

 

[Razoric]

Mario Sunshine Revolution DD DS at launch. Paradigm Shift indeed.

 

[MrPing1000]

thats 2 words

 

[seismologist]

paradign shift means it's more than just a new way to control games. It's probably a bigger change along the lines of iQue, that's a paradign shift.

 

[Vark]

For some reason I'm reminded of when one of the PR things had them talking about how with the DS they wanted to have wifi transmitters built into theatres, so that people with their ds's on would recieve pokemon and stuff during key points in the movie.

This along with stuff like 'connectivity' tells me that Nintendo's direction is more in line with attempting to integrate several experiences into one and make it as seamless as possible. MS and Sony's direction is moving towards having a one centralized box that does everything for you, Nintendo's direction is having several devices all working in conjunction for one cohesive experience, having a movie effect a game or vice versa.

Who knows what they're really up to though. It's the one thing I like about Nintendo, as much hate as people spew at them, the second Nintendo open's their mouth with some vague detail *everyone* wants to know what they're up to.

 

[ge-man]

For some reason I'm reminded of when one of the PR things had them talking about how with the DS they wanted to have wifi transmitters built into theatres, so that people with their ds's on would recieve pokemon and stuff during key points in the movie.

This along with stuff like 'connectivity' tells me that Nintendo's direction is more in line with attempting to integrate several experiences into one and make it as seamless as possible. MS and Sony's direction is moving towards having a one centralized box that does everything for you, Nintendo's direction is having several devices all working in conjunction for one cohesive experience, having a movie effect a game or vice versa.

I definately feel like this is part of their direction--to move gaming out of the living room as oppossed to centralizing games, music, and movies even more within the living room. I could care less about the difficulties that might arise for porting and certain genres if Nintendo's system is very radical--I'll just buy another console for the other stuff. However, I am very interested in what will be built around their new system.

 

[jedimike]

It's obvious to me that Nintendo is just trying to generate some buzz by using some powerful terminology. As long as they are using a box plugged into a TV and users are controlling the action with their hands, then there is no paradigm shift.

AFAIK, there have only been a few of these events like when scientists found out that Earth was not the center of the Universe and it wasn't flat. (FYI, a few scientists are predicting a paradigm shift in 2012).

 

[8bit]

It's a polar shift that's being predicted for 2012.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradigm_shift

 

[junkwaffle]

iirc, one of the funamental characteristics of a paradigm shift is the universal resistance to accepting the new, radical change being presented. People tend to believe the status quo is the correct, perhaps only way to proceed - then someone declares that the sun is the center of the solar system, not the earth. After some deaths and a few years, the idea becomes adopted. The 'revolution' could be anything: the console design, the gameplay, the interface, the distribution system for games.

Maybe an on/off switch on the controller! PARADIGM SHIIIIFFFTTTT!!!!

 

[StRaNgE]

Hearing this news, I had a paradigm shift in my pants.

:lol :lol :lol

 

[NintendosBooger]

As long as third-party developers can keep up with it and are happy making games for the new system, then it should do fine.

 

[PhatSaqs]

I'm interested to see what ol' Ninty has in store.

E3 is gonna be a blast around here. I'm loading up on popcorn as we speak .

 

[jimbo]

Same old same old. Megaton, Superton, Nuclear Missle controller, Paradigm Shift. It's a freaking videogame system. Flying cars would have less hype than this.

 

[Wario64]

Paradigm Shift is the new Megaton

 

[human5892]

Paradigm Shift is the new Megaton

Or Heterogenous Goods.

 

[deadhorse32]

Google image.

Keyword : paradigm shift

It's pretty clear now that we are gonna be BLOWN AWAY

 

[Late Stage Marxist]

I don't know the nature of the revolution, but if it's as risky as DS, I'm not all that confident in the "revolution of games". As long as it's backwards compatible with GC (gamepad support) I'll be glad. At least give developers the option of developing standard games.

 

[Hitokage]

Nintendo can pull it off, or fail and start developing games for other platforms.

Either way is a paradigm shift for them.

 

[jimbo]

I have heard it from inside sources and it's not just Nintendo. Microsoft and Sony will out shift Nintendo in the paradigm shiftness. Hear it here first.

The revolution will have straps, instead of handles. You'll have your regular 2-18yrs old, two strap, back-pack version, and the college kids one strap over the shoulder version. It will come in only one color, dubbed "THE COLOR".

The Xbox 2 will have wheels and forget the force-feed back steering wheel everyone wants, it will have a REAL-feedback steering wheel. You can get it with or without the hood ornament and it will alieviate all the problems of carrying your system to your friends house. Just hop inside and go.

The PS3 will fit inside your wallet and it has a plug that you can "jack in" to the back of your neck. It's can also be used to brush your teeth and has a floss dispenser. The eye toy camera is now even smaller purposely made to fit inside your mouth and check for cavities.

 

[Namomura]

 

[gofreak]

That's the original article? Can anyone provide an accurate translation?

I also wonder what's on his laptop screen. I can make out a "DS" but that's about it. I expect some photoshop potential there though

 

[GG-Duo]

BINGO!!

 

[fse]

Nintendo Rev. will just have a touch screen with user feedback. Devrs can and will program their own controls. Thats all.

 

[FnordChan]

FnordChan

 

[gofreak]

Nintendo Rev. will just have a touch screen with user feedback. Devrs can and will program their own controls. Thats all.

You really need to qualify where you're coming from with that. Personal speculation, or from the article?

edit - :lol , good work FnordChan

 

[mrklaw]

Does anyone think any of the three next gen consoles will be on the floor at E3? Cause if Revolution and PS3 will be announced by press conference, I'm probably better off at home next to a computer.


Felz, you need a photoshop mockup in Amirox's thread. I think its a good idea - basically the bottom half of a DS as the standard controller for revolution?

 

[Odnetnin]

Or Heterogenous Goods.

so 2004.

:lol @ fnordchan's excellent photoshop. Nintendo is the new Red

 

[gofreak]

Does anyone think any of the three next gen consoles will be on the floor at E3? Cause if Revolution and PS3 will be announced by press conference, I'm probably better off at home next to a computer.


Felz, you need a photoshop mockup in Amirox's thread. I think its a good idea - basically the bottom half of a DS as the standard controller for revolution?

Xbox2 should certainly be, if it's coming in 2005. The latest Reggie interview strongly suggests Nintendo is looking to have Revolution playable at E3 (they're approaching it in much the same was as DS at E32004 - they want people to be able to "touch it" etc). Nothing is absolutely certain, though. I remember Perrin Kaplan subtly suggesting that Revolution might be announced at last year's E3, and that fell through (though it was a very qualified, light suggestion compared to Reggie's this year).

 

[Late Stage Marxist]

Paradigm shift get!

 

[norinrad21]

Anyway Iwata basically bashes the hell out of the PSP saying something along the lines like it only has fancy tech and fancy graphics but doesn't offer anything new. While the DS offers more even with the current tech in it.

Revolution fellows the same concept as the DS

Revolution to be introduce at E3 and possibly playable too.

Revolution will introduce new ways of playing games, revolution is build is such a way that anyone from young and old can pick up and play will [women too].


Revolution will be tottally different than what the competition is offering it won't be your usually console.

They hope to bring back older gamers who don't play games anymore and introduce non gamers to gaming as well.

 

[GDGF]

I'm starting to think the 'rumors' that Oxygen (Element) was spouting awhile back may have been close to the truth in a way. Maybe I was a little hard on the guy

 

[mrklaw]

Anyway Iwata basically bashes the hell out of the PSP saying something along the lines like it only has fancy tech and fancy graphics but doesn't offer anything new. While the DS offers more even with the current tech in it.

Revolution fellows the same concept as the DS

Revolution to be introduce at E3 and possibly playable too.

Revolution will introduce new ways of playing games, revolution is build is such a way that anyone from young and old can pick up and play will [women too].


Revolution will be tottally different than what the competition is offering it won't be your usually console.

They hope to bring back older gamers who don't play games anymore and introduce non gamers to gaming as well.

Then are Nintendo turning their backs on the PS3/Xbox2 market? The high disposable income, games playing mainstream? In order to woo women and old people?

That sounds bad to me.

 

[Duck of Death]

I'm starting to think the 'rumors' that Oxygen (Element) was spouting awhile back may have been close to the truth in a way. Maybe I was a little hard on the guy

What rumors?

 

[gofreak]

Then are Nintendo turning their backs on the PS3/Xbox2 market? The high disposable income, games playing mainstream? In order to woo women and old people?

That sounds bad to me.

They don't have to be mutually exclusive markets. It depends on how they're approaching this. If it's an accessible, but general, interface that doesn't compromise on control over games (and perhaps, *gasp*, improves it), then there should be nothing to worry about. Guess we'll wait and see.

 

[mrklaw]

They don't have to be mutually exclusive markets. It depends on how they're approaching this. If it's an accessible, but general, interface that doesn't compromise on control over games (and perhaps, *gasp*, improves it), then there should be nothing to worry about. Guess we'll wait and see.

Sure. But comments like "Revolution follows the same concept as DS", and "revolution is build is such a way that anyone from young and old can pick up and play will [women too]." make me think that this and DS go hand in hand.

And while DS is currently successful, I haven't seen much that pushes the boundaries of gaming. Nintendo seem content to 'dumb things down' using the touch screen (I mean that in a positive way). But while that might attract new consumers into gaming, it may alienate a lot of people used to more complex interaction methods.

Add to that "Revolution will be tottally different than what the competition is offering it won't be your usually console" and you require significant investment from publishers - multiplatform may exclude Revolution, and exclusive 3rd party content for Nintendo is not common.

I'm all for revolution, but they have to tread really carefully.

 

[gofreak]

Sure. But comments like "Revolution follows the same concept as DS", and "revolution is build is such a way that anyone from young and old can pick up and play will [women too]." make me think that this and DS go hand in hand.

I don't see that, myself, I just think they're talking about general vision here re. making games more accessible.

And while DS is currently successful, I haven't seen much that pushes the boundaries of gaming. Nintendo seem content to 'dumb things down' using the touch screen (I mean that in a positive way). But while that might attract new consumers into gaming, it may alienate a lot of people used to more complex interaction methods.

Dumbing down controls doesn't necessarily mean dumbing down the game at all, so as long as that remains the case I don't see a problem. Yoshi's Touch & Go, for example, would be quite a complex, if not impossible, game to execute using traditional controls. But DS makes it intuitive. Anyone who wants complex controls for the sake of it needs a talking to

Add to that "Revolution will be tottally different than what the competition is offering it won't be your usually console" and you require significant investment from publishers - multiplatform may exclude Revolution, and exclusive 3rd party content for Nintendo is not common.

I don't think Nintendo really wants multiplatform content much. They want exclusives, so I guess they're banking on publishers who are willing to put their neck out in the name of creativity. But I agree this is a risk.

I'm all for revolution, but they have to tread really carefully.

Agreed.

 

[android]

Nintendo likes to bullsh*t. They claim that they are innovative and foward looking and then don't include online in their home console system. The biggest innovations this round came from the newcomer, with no console experience. Don't count on this company doing anything that might please fans. It's all about staying out of the red with them.

 

[gofreak]

Nintendo likes to bullsh*t. They claim that they are innovative and foward looking and then don't include online in their home console system. The biggest innovations this round came from the newcomer, with no console experience. Don't count on this company doing anything that might please fans. It's all about staying out of the red with them.

The bottom line for any business is profit. If you're willing to lose lots of money, certain things become more obvious, but if not..

Nintendo's been doing online stuff since the NES, so they definitely are forward looking. But they've got two eyes on the balance sheet as well.

 

[8bit]

What rumors?

Blowjob vouchers.

 

[CrimsonSkies]

I believe I'll just stick to the old way. You folks let me know how that Revolution goes.

 

[gofreak]

I believe I'll just stick to the old way. You folks let me know how that Revolution goes.

Without even knowing anything about it? Talk about prejudging something!

 

[monkeyrun]

I wonder what's the word in Japanese that translate to "paradigm shift" in english

 

[Phoenix]

My frothing demand for this shift increases....

 

[Sho Nuff]

(Puts down PSP for a second)

Huh?

...oh.

(Continues playing Lumines)

 

[Lyte Edge]

Wireless is revolutionary for a handheld gaming system.

Nope, other handhelds have done it already. The Tapwave Zodiac, for example, has built-in bluetooth for wireless play. IIRC the Zodiac 1 came out in 2002. Hell, even the GAMEBOY got a wireless adaptor.

PSP is doing it, too. And the DS's control scheme is revolutionary. I still don't see where he says they're setting an example for handhelds to come.

What's revolutionary about the DS control scheme? And DON'T say the touch screen, because that too has already been done before.

That said, I think the stylus control works perfectly for games like Metroid Hunters. But the lack of an analog stick really stinks, and the "thumb strap" is a poor alternative.

 

[Phoenix]

I believe I'll just stick to the old way. You folks let me know how that Revolution goes.

In my house the revolution will not be televised.

 

[Diffense]

The revolution will be the REAL way to "plug into the matrix".

 

[GDGF]

What rumors?

That the Revolution would be a kind of hybrid gaming console/nintendo gaming network (hardrive and all) that allowed you to download Nintendo games past, present and future.

I thought he was off his rocker, but we'll just have to see. Maybe he was on to something. He said he heard it from several sources 'in the know', anyway...