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Richard Spencer may be rallying at Univ. of Florida next...what is the way forward?

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Neifirst

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http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/grade...charlottesville-events-may-come-to-uf/2333554

Spencer's group has reserved space at UF's campus in Gainesville for September 12th, and the university's president sent a letter to the community last night (see link above).

Toward the end, UF's president wrote the following:

Instead of allowing hateful speech to tear us down, I urge our campus community to join together, respect one another and promote positive speech, while allowing for differing opinions. These types of groups want media attention. I encourage our campus community to send a message of unity by not engaging with this group and giving them more media attention for their message of intolerance and hate.

This got me to thinking that there are always going to people who hold these repulsive, backward views, but as a society we've got to find a way to make them once again feel shame and embarrassment for doing so, and get them out of the public square. Is there a way forward to accomplish this?

Should counter protests be staged elsewhere so as to avoid face-to-face confrontation? Should civic groups appeal to the national media to discontinue coverage of these events and get out of the business of "both sides" nonsense? These vile 'white power' groups are getting so much oxygen that something needs to be done.


EDIT: Several suggested not allowing them on campus in the first place. The problem is that his group apparently went through all of the proper channels to reserve the space, account for security costs, etc., and that under the law, the university cannot simply refuse them the space (it's all addressed in the link I provided)
 
How about you just don't let neo-nazis on to your campus instead of telling your students to ignore them and act like everything is ok? You've got campus security. Use it.
 
Instead of allowing hateful speech to tear us down, I urge our campus community to join together, respect one another and promote positive speech, while allowing for differing opinions. These types of groups want media attention. I encourage our campus community to send a message of unity by not engaging with this group and giving them more media attention for their message of intolerance and hate.

no. fuck this. DON'T ALLOW THEM THE TIME AND SPACE FOR THEM AND IT WONT BE A PROBLEM.

IT'S NOT THAT HARD.
 

opoth

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Time to start training

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Moppeh

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no. fuck this. DON'T ALLOW THEM THE TIME AND SPACE FOR THEM AND IT WONT BE A PROBLEM.

IT'S NOT THAT HARD.

Yeah.

Universities should provide differing views and opinions to explore and ruminate on, but they shouldn't legitimize this kind of shit by letting it onto their campus.
 

jaekeem

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inb4 stupid fucking voltaire or Justice Brandeis quote

free speech for a group premised on the demise of their country's minority population

How would America survive without it! Muh Free Speech!!! God fucking damnit
 

geestack

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beat the shit out of the nazis, that's the way forward.

also, this president's response is some straight up horseshit. people should protest the fuck out of the nazis and let the media spotlight shine on the university.
 
Wait, so this POS University president was fine accepting Spencer's money to rent the space for the rally, but wants to pretend that they are on the opposing side as Spencer.
Fuck that. The university president is complicit.
 
Guys we better let him speak. If we don't we will be no better than nazis. Also both sides , tolerant left, whatever fucking else people are using to defend this bullshit.
 

jtb

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That President is a coward and an idiot who is going to get people hurt.

Free speech is one thing. Inciting violence is another.
 

norm9

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Why the college would let this contune after the death and injuries yesterday is mindboggling.

Options- punch and/or kick a nazi. Stand your ground against these nazis if need be. They wouldn't hesitate to do the same.
 

SexyFish

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Wait, so this POS University president was fine accepting Spencer's money to rent the space for the rally, but wants to pretend that they are on the opposing side as Spencer.
Fuck that. The university president is complicit.

Public University. Anyone can protest there, even if he doesn't want them to. I doubt he could say no without a lawsuit, but I wish he would.
 

ZOONAMI

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Why is the fucking university allowing this shit? Tell them to fuck off and eat the lawsuit. Tell them if they do fucking show up campus security will fucking detain them and remove them from the campus.
 
Maybe this is distasteful, but I think people should protest silently and just hold up photos of American soldiers who fought and sacrificed everything to fight Nazis in WWII. Maybe even hold up photos of true Americans who fought the confederacy in the Civil War.

They need to see what true Americans look like.
 

Eylos

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Normalizing, this as Free speech is worse, imo. They shouldnt be given a platform to speak in the university.
 

AntChum

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A university's top priority should be the protection of its students and members of staff. Allowing a group of people who want to harm certain students and members of staff anywhere fucking near the campus show how little this institution cares about its obligations.

People pay to go to university to learn, not for the chance to be run down, beat up, or shot by some fucking Nazi ponce.
 

Toxi

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The protection of the students and staff outweighs the right to what will probably be violent assembly.
People pay to go to university to learn, not for the chance to be run down, beat up, or shot by some fucking Nazi ponce.
Seriously.
 
You guys realize that the university is public and people can legally protest there, right?

That being said I don't it's going to be peaceful after yesterday
 

Dadasch

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"Instead of allowing hateful speech to tear us down,...

...you shouldn't let it happen in the first place. Like, this is exactly what I was tryin to say in the other thread. Shit like this can't happen in an enlightened environment.
Hate speech can not be tolerated, under any circumstances, because hate speech induces hate and violence as seen yesterday (surprise!!!!).

You can't go like this anymore. This guy is a Nazi. PERIOD.
 
Public University. Anyone can protest there, even if he doesn't want them to. I doubt he could say no without a lawsuit, but I wish he would.

I dont think that is true. Before this would ever happen at my county college, the President would have a Board meeting with the trustees, and an additional law to the college code finished in one day. Protesting is one thing, but inciting violence is another. It also helps that my campus police are real police offficers and work with the city often, and that my state is a northern state with sane civilian weapon laws.

Also, the article says that they "reserved space" at the college, so there's that.
 
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