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Richard Spencer may be rallying at Univ. of Florida next...what is the way forward?
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This is how you win a lawsuit on not letting nazis chill at a university. Hey, honorable judge, they're fucking nazis. They aren't peaceful.
People need to show up with video cameras. Scan the whole crowd in plain view. Maybe hold up a sign that says "Smile for your employer" or something.
metalslimer
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Hit as hard as possible
facetheslayer92
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Oh my God, please throw a cantaloupe or something right at this fuckers head.
UberTag
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They're incapable of saying "No" to money. And until someone whose money they value more threatens to take that money away from them for laying out the red carpet for Nazis, they'll continue to find ways to welcome dipshits with wallets in hand and concerned letters to the community for everyone else.
Print out some "You Nazi Scum Are All Getting Fired or Your Employers Will Be Outed for Employing Nazis" signs and hold them aloft high.
And then point and laugh at the future unemployed with big, bright smiles.
GlitchyDegree
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Commander Jameson
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Even though it is a public university, surely they (the Nazis) can't just rock up to any room in the campus and start lecturing/seig-heiling? The university should be within its rights to turn down any request, I would have thought or do they have to accept any request to talk from any terrorist organisation?
Exactly, what if someone wants to do a rally supporting ISIS? Would that be allowed? No it wouldn't.
Do you really think these cowards will disclose their true identities?
cartographer
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They don't even show up in hoods anymore and are open about their racism on social media.
TumblingHippo
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Some will, proudly, and others will be outed and fired by the internet.
Spuck-uk
Banned
Worked great in the 1930's OH SHIT WAIT
This is why I'm saying it's a great opportunity to make them regret that.
GiantBombGamer
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If my school has allowed gatherings of these cretins while I was enrolled I'd have been heading down to the transfer office so damn fast their heads would spin.
cubicle47b
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One idea is to have a rally on the other side of campus at the same time (or maybe the day before) that celebrates diversity. Make it 10x as big. Make that rally the story instead.
Sorry, it's for security reasons.
BlazinSkatinAxel
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Florida don't care. Some stuff bout to get f'd up.
Mr. E. Yis
Banned
"Reserving space" at a college means that they received money. The University president is complicit to terrorists, and if/when any violence happens, it is on his head.
Vicetrailia
Banned
All hell is about to break loose.
CrocMother
Banned
The University President doesn't seem to have a choice in the matter?
Unless I'm reading this wrong.
HerbertBirdsfoot
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Exactly this. Get some big name music acts while you're at it. Authorities and school officials should be planning that shit.
Get Beyoncé, Springsteen, Foo Fighters, whatever. Chant No Nazis and have some positivity and love.
I get the punch a nazi sentiment, I really do. But if you study some history you will find that during the rise of the nazis the brownshirts had ready and willing dudes to brawl with in the young communists. It was a violent and polarized environment.
Try fighting hate with some love instead.
Telosfortelos
Advocate for the People
Large, peaceful counter-protests. Seriously.
This is not the answer. We're in a never-ending competition for hearts and minds, particularly of the impressionable youth. Racist use events like this to argue (with the greatest hypocrisy) that the left are violently silencing free speech, and they attract young, often disillusioned, white people to their cause. Those same young dumb people don't have to go that way, and we should do everything in our power to ensure that they don't. Even though he deserves it and much worse, punching Richard Spencer (and his ilk) is not the answer.
If the right continue in their violence and the left does not engage in it, the left wins the hearts and minds game.
This is not the answer. We're in a never-ending competition for hearts and minds, particularly of the impressionable youth. Racist use events like this to argue (with the greatest hypocrisy) that the left are violently silencing free speech, and they attract young, often disillusioned, white people to their cause. Those same young dumb people don't have to go that way, and we should do everything in our power to ensure that they don't. Even though he deserves it and much worse, punching Richard Spencer (and his ilk) is not the answer.
If the right continue in their violence and the left does not engage in it, the left wins the hearts and minds game.
Booker Dewitt
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That's only a two hour drive for me, maybe its time I do something louder than just get mad behind a screen.
Triggerhappytel
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I know freedom of speech is sacrosanct in the USA, but does that really include hate speech as well?! These fuckers are literal Nazis and they should be disallowed any legitimate platform whatsoever. Like, imagine the shitshow is some Muslim extremists hired out a venue to parade their beliefs and call westerners infidels who deserve to be killed, and how fucking obviously differently it would be treated. These cunts are the same thing.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
Of course they will. There's no need to hide anymore.
I've seen that too, but it seems to me like there is still some 'plausible deniability' in being a shithead on the internet. They could claim they were hacked, or not use their real name, delete the posts, or claim "it was at joke!"
And even though they show their faces at these rallies, they aren't being named and can assume some anonymity in a crowd. There also isn't really a record of their attendance, if they happen to evade cameras or wear a mask or helmet.
Registration at these events with a valid ID would put them at a specific time and place, no way to deny it.
If Bloodbourne taught me anything, the best way to deal with these foes is:
stun + visceral
You are right, he forgot to bring his shank.
stun + visceral
You are right, he forgot to bring his shank.
Yep, they don't even hide their faces and openly talk about this garbage on social media.
How anyone can spout this bullshit after the POTUS refused to specifically condemn the violent white supremacists at Charlottesville is mind-boggling.
Richard Spencer laid low quite some time after that punch. It did far more to dissuade him than any words.
Lightning_Roller
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Punch the fuck outta him. I cannot believe we have goddamn universities giving platforms to NAZIS!!! What year is it!?!?!?!?!
The problem with assuming that this is a hearts and minds game is assuming that everyone is playing in good faith. The right is not, and a good deal of their constituents are not. They are in this to piss off liberals and be given as much reign as possible to beat and kill minorities.
Stop taking the bait.
GoldenEye 007
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Nazis only understand violence. The world has been through this already. They don't care about conversation.
smokeandmirrors
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How did you ever pass any history class.
Lightning_Roller
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You are so goddamn naive, it's unbearable.
Would you like to read an enormous and comprehensive counter-argument to what you're saying?
Start on this page. Scroll down. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1418784&page=36
It continues for fifteen pages. At least. Settle in.
RaySpencer
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No relation.
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any means necessary to prevent him and his ilk from speaking and rallying tbqh
Psychoward
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Yes I also realize that Richard Spencer is a terrorist and the university shouldn't allow him there.
This is how you do it:
https://twitter.com/RogueCPI/status/896804821294088192
But take his head off before he has a chance to run away.
https://twitter.com/RogueCPI/status/896804821294088192
But take his head off before he has a chance to run away.
Telosfortelos
Advocate for the People
I don't even know how to address this. POTUS is a piece of shit dumbass and their are white nationalists in the white house. The "game" is to convince people of that. That's how democracy works.
What's your point? Do you think beating white nationalist will affect change? It won't. We have real fucking problems in this country and poor black people are the victims. Do you know what the problems are? Have you thought about the solutions? The primal instinct is to hit back, I understand that, but do you seriously think that affects change? That brings funding for poverty and education to our ghettos? That ensures black people are given equal treatment in employment? People on the right don't even understand the problems, much less the solutions. Hit back if you want to cripple the cause.
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