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Rick Berman talks about Star Trek: Enterprise Season 4

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Kumiko Nikaido

Vindication...sweet.
From Trekweb.com:

Rick Berman Talks Season Four: Xindi Resolution Plus Mini-Arcs Harkening to TOS
By Steve Krutzler / 13:01, 5 July 2004 / Enterprise

Speaking in the new issue of STAR TREK magazine in the United Kingdom, STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE producer Rick Berman says he and co-creator Brannon Braga along with executive producer Manny Coto are mapping out the new season and how "Zero Hour"'s cliffhanger will be resolved.

"We’ve already mapped out the first six or seven episodes, in a general sense. We’ve got a story beat out for the first episode," he says in excerpts provided to TrekWeb. "The Xindi arc will be resolved within the first three episodes. And when I say the Xindi arc I mean the predicament of where our characters now find themselves."

Berman says although season four won't see the crew on a mission to save the entire human race again, don't expect a return to the quieter tone of seasons one and two.

"I think that after that we’ve got some very high-concept mini-arcs that we’re interested in," he tells the mag. "Just as when we did STAR TREK: FIRST CONTACT, we couldn’t do a movie about Picard and company saving the future from being destroyed, we can’t do another season-long on ENTERPRISE that involves Archer and company trying to save humanity. On the other hand, we don’t feel that we want to go back to the Season One and Season Two concept of ‘we’re out there exploring space,’ period."

The exec alludes to several on-going story arcs that will populate the show's fourth year.

"We’re in the process now of developing smaller arcs, arcs that will run two, three, maybe four episodes which will continue during the course of the season," Berman reveals. "We’ve got a couple of them that I think are going to have some big surprises and things that will hearken back to perhaps THE ORIGINAL SERIES. We’ll bring in some actors, and possibly some characters, that are very familiar to our audience."

You can read the full interview in issue 116 of STAR TREK Magazine, available in the UK July 16th. ENTERPRISE is expected to begin production mid-month.
 

maharg

idspispopd
Kumiko Nikaido said:
"We’re in the process now of developing smaller arcs, arcs that will run two, three, maybe four episodes which will continue during the course of the season," Berman reveals. "We’ve got a couple of them that I think are going to have some big surprises and things that will hearken back to perhaps THE ORIGINAL SERIES. We’ll bring in some actors, and possibly some characters, that are very familiar to our audience."

3 part episodes are NOT arcs.
 
Kumiko Nikaido said:
We’ll bring in some actors, and possibly some characters, that are very familiar to our audience."

"My ears are burning!"
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Kumiko Nikaido said:
On the other hand, we don’t feel that we want to go back to the Season One and Season Two concept of ‘we’re out there exploring space,’ period."

Why the fuck not? Isn't that why TOS and NG are so loved?

Fucking hacks.
 

Death

Banned
This series is a complete joke. I can't wait until they pull the plug and introduce a new series.

As for the familiar character, I heard they might bring back Wesley Crusher (aka the "Traveler's" apprentice).
 

ShadowRed

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"As for the familiar character, I heard they might bring back Wesley Crusher (aka the "Traveler's" apprentice)."



OH SWEET MERCIFUL GOD NO!!!!! I don't say that because I have a Wesley hete on like most people seem to, but because they are doing what all the other shows have done, rip off TNG, rather than create something of their own. Plus it's just stupid. Anyhow I thought they were going to have Will Shatner come back as Kirks Grandfather or something.
 
The Shadow said:
Why the fuck not? Isn't that why TOS and NG are so loved?
No. :p They're loved because they were decent shows. Not because they were wandering around aimlessly looking at things. Season 3 at least gave some focus to the series, so I'm glad they're not going to go back to having everything be completely separate episode to episode.

Bringing in "characters, that are very familiar" though, sounds like a bad idea. Who would possibly be around for a non-stupid reason, and without disrupting (even more) continuity? Guinan?

Death said:
As for the familiar character, I heard they might bring back Wesley Crusher (aka the "Traveler's" apprentice).
Doubt it. Wil Wheaton said this would be the case... but it was for April Fool's Day 2002.
 
ShadowRed said:
Anyhow I thought they were going to have Will Shatner come back as Kirks Grandfather or something.
This reminds me of something. I have a feeling one of those "familiar actors", perhaps even Shatner, will end up being Enterprise's chef. They always just refer to him as "Chef" in a South Park way, and I believe he's been on screen once... clothed in chef's garb and from the torso down, so you couldn't really see who it was. At first I thought it was just a running joke, but I think they must be saving it for some big guest star reveal. "OHHHH. SO JIM BOB KIRK WAS ON ENTERPRISE THE WHOLE TIME."
 

StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
I hate season long story arcs.. especially stupid ones. That is what killed DS9, well that and terrible charachters and acting.

I would prefer if they did like they did early.. have the genetically altered guys with future boy helping them pop up every now and then... then disapear for a month and come back for another bit of the bigger story. They did this on TNG with those bug things controlling people, and the borg to a lesser extent.
 

StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
Oh for the love of God, sisco sounded like a bad politician pretending to care about what he was speaking about every time he opened his mouth... and showed emotion by spitting while he talked and turning on 'the booming voice of empending doom'.

Quark was actually a good charachter that was handled pretty well, so was the cardasian spy/tailer... and to some extent odo was a good characther until the whole dominion shit happened. Outside of those charachters, everyone was forgettable.. they even managed to misuse two pretty decent TNG charachters...
 

DrForester

Kills Photobucket
Deep Space 9 was great, you had a realistic crew.

Unlike every oher trek show, DS9 developed all of its characters, and even has an outstanding supporting cast. They fixed the problems from TNG. People hated wesley, everyone liked Jake. We had a Doctor who actually worked and didn't jsut sit arround. We had a first officer with Ambition and didn't crawl under the captains skirt when things got tough. We had a security officer just as good as worf (Since worf was already perfect :p). We had an engineer who actually had things to do, and reguarly had to go out and get teh crap beat out of him every season to get something done. Last, we had a captain who fit with his crew. He got to know them. He didn't just sit in his ready room until the next borg/Q/romulan/ferengi attack. We had a captain who didn't need his therapist sitting next to him all the time.
 

ManaByte

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Death said:
As for the familiar character, I heard they might bring back Wesley Crusher (aka the "Traveler's" apprentice).

Not going to happen. Wheaton had such an epic fallout with Berman and Co. after Nemesis it's hilarious. They didn't invite him to the cast screening of Nemesis, but rather the Paramount employee screening where he sat with the janitors.
 
StoOgE said:
I would prefer if they did like they did early.. have the genetically altered guys with future boy helping them pop up every now and then... then disapear for a month and come back for another bit of the bigger story. They did this on TNG with those bug things controlling people, and the borg to a lesser extent.

I don't remember these TNG bug things?
 

DrForester

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think they were only used in the first and 2nd season. They were thos bugs that crawled in your head and had a little needle sticking out the back of the neck.
 

Phoenix

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DrForester said:
think they were only used in the first and 2nd season. They were thos bugs that crawled in your head and had a little needle sticking out the back of the neck.

Yeah but I don't recall them resolving that story line outside of the creatures transmitting to their bug buddies out in deep space from star fleet command.
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
Phoenix said:
Yeah but I don't recall them resolving that story line outside of the creatures transmitting to their bug buddies out in deep space from star fleet command.

They never resolved it because they decided to basically forget the first two seasons ever existed with the exception of Lore, the Borg, and Encounter at Farpoint.
 

maharg

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They were one episode, really, in the finale of season one. They were never mentioned again.

TV Tome claims they were actually sending a message to the borg, and that that was the real introduction of the borg arc to TNG (planned as early as when the ferengi turned out sucky). Of course, TV Tome's notes contain arguments of all things, so it's debatable. Here's what it says though:
The conspiracy is hinted at in earlier episodes, especially Coming of Age, which also featured Admiral Quinn and Lt. Remmick, and where it is suggested that something bad is going on in starfleet, which is the reason for their inspection on the ship and crew.
This really creepy episode was intended to be one of the lead-ins for the introduction of the Borg, a new race developed when the Ferengi failed to deliver the threat the creators had intended. The message sent at the end was intended to have been sent to Borg space, though no future episode specifies where that message goes.

It also says in there that Picard called Wesley his son some time in the first season, and that Gene intended to have him be his and Beverly's love child. I could believe that, actually, but it seems unlikely that it was simply 'forgotten about' as it suggests.

Anyway, the Borg in TNG qualify as an arc, because they were an overtone to many other events in the series, and tied in to every other major plot of the series (eg. Lore). As I said, 3 part episodes are NOT arcs. They're just long episodes. I hate that they're going to abuse that term now and make it sound like something Star Trek has if they're dumping them.
 
ManaByte said:
Not going to happen. Wheaton had such an epic fallout with Berman and Co. after Nemesis it's hilarious. They didn't invite him to the cast screening of Nemesis, but rather the Paramount employee screening where he sat with the janitors.

I know Wil Wheaton mouthed off to a lot of the cast on TNG during the series' run, but was there a more massive falling out?
 
ManDudeChild said:
I know Wil Wheaton mouthed off to a lot of the cast on TNG during the series' run, but was there a more massive falling out?

Dude, go read this first: http://www.wilwheaton.net/faq.php

When it came to filming the latest bomb of a star trek movie, Wil was told everything between him and Berman was kosher, and he was filmed for a couple minutes of scenes and dialogue.

Then they cut it down to a couple of seconds, kept the footage out of the DVD, sent him to the nobody cares employee screening, and the disaster continues. He found out about the real cast screening when one of the main cast actually called him with a "Where the hell are you?" type of thing. Hell, if you go read the blog, you can read exactly how it went down.

Berman and Braga really need to get the hell off that franchise.
 

COCKLES

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From what I've read they've been talking about having Shatner involved in some way...perhaps a Kirks dad or something? :O
 

Kumiko Nikaido

Vindication...sweet.
From Trekweb.com:

Details on Season 4's opener:

WARNING: SPOILER CONTENT!!

Season Four to Kick Off With "Storm Front" -- First Plot Details for Premiere Episode
By Steve Krutzler / 14:42, 6 July 2004 / Enterprise

STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE will kick off its fourth season with a two-part episode titled "Storm Front," according to sources speaking with TrekWeb this morning. The episode will pick up where May's "Zero Hour" left off: Archer in the clutches of alien Nazis who, it turns out, occupy the entire East Coast of the United States circa 1944.

Stuck in Nazi New York City, Archer must engineer his escape and find out what has happened. It turns out that aliens called 'Na'khul' -- a new faction in the temporal cold war -- are manipulating the Nazis and are responsible for their incursion into the United States. Their leader, 'Vosk', even meets with a high-ranking German general in the White House to discuss details of an operation.

While being held captive by an ambitious S.S. officer escorting him through New York, Archer manages to escape during an ambush and teams up with resistence fighters. Archer meets 'Alicia Silvers', a thirtysomething African American woman from Brooklyn who tends to the future Starfleet captain's injuries. Former mobsters have joined the fight against the Nazis, bringing 'Salvatore' -- an Italian man -- into the fold after his wife is taken to a labor camp. Salvatore is skeptical of Archer, as is a Polish man from Brooklyn named 'Prazki' who provides information to the group about alien involvement with the Nazis.

"Storm Front" will begin production next week under the direction of veteran STAR TREK helmer Allan Kroeker. This information should be treated as rumor until officially confirmed by Paramount.
 

Phoenix

Member
Kumiko Nikaido said:
From Trekweb.com:

Details on Season 4's opener:

WARNING: SPOILER CONTENT!!

Season Four to Kick Off With "Storm Front" -- First Plot Details for Premiere Episode
By Steve Krutzler / 14:42, 6 July 2004 / Enterprise

STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE will kick off its fourth season with a two-part episode titled "Storm Front," according to sources speaking with TrekWeb this morning. The episode will pick up where May's "Zero Hour" left off: Archer in the clutches of alien Nazis who, it turns out, occupy the entire East Coast of the United States circa 1944.

Stuck in Nazi New York City, Archer must engineer his escape and find out what has happened. It turns out that aliens called 'Na'khul' -- a new faction in the temporal cold war -- are manipulating the Nazis and are responsible for their incursion into the United States. Their leader, 'Vosk', even meets with a high-ranking German general in the White House to discuss details of an operation.

While being held captive by an ambitious S.S. officer escorting him through New York, Archer manages to escape during an ambush and teams up with resistence fighters. Archer meets 'Alicia Silvers', a thirtysomething African American woman from Brooklyn who tends to the future Starfleet captain's injuries. Former mobsters have joined the fight against the Nazis, bringing 'Salvatore' -- an Italian man -- into the fold after his wife is taken to a labor camp. Salvatore is skeptical of Archer, as is a Polish man from Brooklyn named 'Prazki' who provides information to the group about alien involvement with the Nazis.

"Storm Front" will begin production next week under the direction of veteran STAR TREK helmer Allan Kroeker. This information should be treated as rumor until officially confirmed by Paramount.

I would rather watch the steam come off a pile of shit - oh wait, that's what this episode will be.
 

ShadowRed

Banned
Phoenix said:
Yeah but I don't recall them resolving that story line outside of the creatures transmitting to their bug buddies out in deep space from star fleet command.




Originally they were going to be the threat that the Borg became, but they changed directions and came up with the Borg. They simply dropped the worm people angle.
 

Mashing

Member
StoOgE said:
I hate season long story arcs.. especially stupid ones. That is what killed DS9, well that and terrible charachters and acting.

Yes well.... I'm just going to have to STRONGLY disagree with you there
 

Tortfeasor

Member
Kumiko Nikaido said:
From Trekweb.com:

Details on Season 4's opener:

WARNING: SPOILER CONTENT!!

Season Four to Kick Off With "Storm Front" -- First Plot Details for Premiere Episode
By Steve Krutzler / 14:42, 6 July 2004 / Enterprise

STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE will kick off its fourth season with a two-part episode titled "Storm Front," according to sources speaking with TrekWeb this morning. The episode will pick up where May's "Zero Hour" left off: Archer in the clutches of alien Nazis who, it turns out, occupy the entire East Coast of the United States circa 1944.

Stuck in Nazi New York City, Archer must engineer his escape and find out what has happened. It turns out that aliens called 'Na'khul' -- a new faction in the temporal cold war -- are manipulating the Nazis and are responsible for their incursion into the United States. Their leader, 'Vosk', even meets with a high-ranking German general in the White House to discuss details of an operation.

While being held captive by an ambitious S.S. officer escorting him through New York, Archer manages to escape during an ambush and teams up with resistence fighters. Archer meets 'Alicia Silvers', a thirtysomething African American woman from Brooklyn who tends to the future Starfleet captain's injuries. Former mobsters have joined the fight against the Nazis, bringing 'Salvatore' -- an Italian man -- into the fold after his wife is taken to a labor camp. Salvatore is skeptical of Archer, as is a Polish man from Brooklyn named 'Prazki' who provides information to the group about alien involvement with the Nazis.

"Storm Front" will begin production next week under the direction of veteran STAR TREK helmer Allan Kroeker. This information should be treated as rumor until officially confirmed by Paramount.

I am still a big fan of all things trek and I have to say this sounds really horrible.
 

MC Safety

Member
Tortfeasor said:
I am still a big fan of all things trek and I have to say this sounds really horrible.

When I read the description of Enterprise's new storyline and its first episode for the new season, I couldn't help thinking about what columnist Dave Barry said about World War II.

And I am paraphrasing here, mind you, as I am too lazy to look up the direct quote ...

World War II, as Hollywood teaches us, was fought by small groups of soldiers called squads composed of:
an African-American
a Jewish person
an Italian from Brooklyn named "Brooklyn"
the young kid who croaked, but not before proclaiming his love for the girl and America.
 

COCKLES

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That's how I feel after an episode of Enterprise.

Another fucking time-war faction? How many are there?!?!

How long before the universe just cracks and buckles with all these changes to the timeline?
 
DrForester said:
Deep Space 9 was great, you had a realistic crew.

Unlike every oher trek show, DS9 developed all of its characters, and even has an outstanding supporting cast. They fixed the problems from TNG. People hated wesley, everyone liked Jake. We had a Doctor who actually worked and didn't jsut sit arround. We had a first officer with Ambition and didn't crawl under the captains skirt when things got tough. We had a security officer just as good as worf (Since worf was already perfect :p). We had an engineer who actually had things to do, and reguarly had to go out and get teh crap beat out of him every season to get something done. Last, we had a captain who fit with his crew. He got to know them. He didn't just sit in his ready room until the next borg/Q/romulan/ferengi attack. We had a captain who didn't need his therapist sitting next to him all the time.

WHAT? You've gotta be kidding me? Have you even watched TNG at all? You are so completely wrong it's not even funny.
 

Tortfeasor

Member
COCKLES said:
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That's how I feel after an episode of Enterprise.

Another fucking time-war faction? How many are there?!?!

How long before the universe just cracks and buckles with all these changes to the timeline?

The whole temporal war thing is stupid as hell... If these guys can travel in time so easily why don't they keep sending people back if they fail... For instance with the Xindi thing, why didn't the phase shifting aliens just send more people back when they realized that the TWO WHOLE PEOPLE THEY SENT could not destroy the enterprise. Why don't they send back an fucking army of 5000 people? Why not just send 2 more poeple back to help the first two when it was obvious they failed so that they arrived at the exact smae time, giving the first two people a second chance. Why not just send 1 alien to earth to stab Archer in his fucking crib when he was a baby?

Anyways... I hope they stop the stupid storyline. I like the exploration aspect of the show. I like the idea that enterprise is supposed to forge the relationships that start the federation. Why don't we go there for awhile? Oh, and if we do, can we stop Archer from being captured every 3 seconds?
 

Mashing

Member
DJ Demon J said:
WHAT? You've gotta be kidding me? Have you even watched TNG at all? You are so completely wrong it's not even funny.

He's got a point... how many times did you see Picard playing poker with his crew? Once, in the last scene of the series finale.
 
Mashing said:
He's got a point... how many times did you see Picard playing poker with his crew? Once, in the last scene of the series finale.

Whatever. Picard knew his crew. He was a real leader. No pussy-footing around and hitting on the ladies on the job (Kirk I'm looking at you). A good military leader doesn't get buddy-buddy with all of his crew, he keeps them on task and must make them perform as an efficient team. I'm not saying DS9 wasn't a good series (turned out to be really good after a lukewarm intro, second only to TNG in my book), but calling Sisko a better captain is fucking ludicrous.
 

COCKLES

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DJ Demon J said:
Whatever. Picard knew his crew. He was a real leader. No pussy-footing around and hitting on the ladies on the job (Kirk I'm looking at you). A good military leader doesn't get buddy-buddy with all of his crew, he keeps them on task and must make them perform as an efficient team. I'm not saying DS9 wasn't a good series (turned out to be really good after a lukewarm intro, second only to TNG in my book), but calling Sisko a better captain is fucking ludicrous.

Thinking about the Captians...makes you realise what a bland character Archer is.

Kirk had his babe banging....Picard was an Earl Grey lover of Shakesphere. Sisko was the no-nonsense single dad and Archer is.....well....he just captains the Enterprise. He really doesn't have a hook does he?

And can someone tell me why his pet dog is still a puppy after 3 years? *

*I'm sure it will be explained away.

"Dr Phlox...why is he still pissing on my rug?"

"Well according to my Nebulianesese manual on terran family pets, it seems the expanse is causing a contraction of his nuculanoic peptides, resulting in a sub-dermal contraction the growth muscles".

"In other words you don't know"?

"I don't write this shit Captain I just act in it. Think how I feel, I never made it to the 2nd nerd episode of Stargate SG1"
 
Thats why Voyager and Enterprise are crap. They've give up on characterization. And what they do apply to characters doesn't enter into continuity. That was especially true for Voyager.
 

Mengy

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Kumiko Nikaido said:
From Trekweb.com:

Details on Season 4's opener:

WARNING: SPOILER CONTENT!!

Season Four to Kick Off With "Storm Front" -- First Plot Details for Premiere Episode
By Steve Krutzler / 14:42, 6 July 2004 / Enterprise

STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE will kick off its fourth season with a two-part episode titled "Storm Front," according to sources speaking with TrekWeb this morning. The episode will pick up where May's "Zero Hour" left off: Archer in the clutches of alien Nazis who, it turns out, occupy the entire East Coast of the United States circa 1944.

Stuck in Nazi New York City, Archer must engineer his escape and find out what has happened. It turns out that aliens called 'Na'khul' -- a new faction in the temporal cold war -- are manipulating the Nazis and are responsible for their incursion into the United States. Their leader, 'Vosk', even meets with a high-ranking German general in the White House to discuss details of an operation.

While being held captive by an ambitious S.S. officer escorting him through New York, Archer manages to escape during an ambush and teams up with resistence fighters. Archer meets 'Alicia Silvers', a thirtysomething African American woman from Brooklyn who tends to the future Starfleet captain's injuries. Former mobsters have joined the fight against the Nazis, bringing 'Salvatore' -- an Italian man -- into the fold after his wife is taken to a labor camp. Salvatore is skeptical of Archer, as is a Polish man from Brooklyn named 'Prazki' who provides information to the group about alien involvement with the Nazis.

"Storm Front" will begin production next week under the direction of veteran STAR TREK helmer Allan Kroeker. This information should be treated as rumor until officially confirmed by Paramount.


OMFG, the amount of suckage that storyline has is enormous. I had hoped that the finale would signal the end of this temporal cold war bullshit, but NOOOOO, now we have a whole NEW faction messing around with Earth's past.

This show is hopeless and a lost cause, I'm done with Trek. I'll just watch TNG eps and be happy again.
 
JUST A REMINDER THAT THIS SHITTY ASS SHOW LIVES WHILE FIREFLY WAS CANNED!

fireflycast.jpg



..Least there's one more season of SG-1, but after that Atlantis takes over and bye bye original awesome cast hello stupid asses. Shit!
 

COCKLES

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MrAngryFace said:
JUST A REMINDER THAT THIS SHITTY ASS SHOW LIVES WHILE FIREFLY WAS CANNED!

fireflycast.jpg



..Least there's one more season of SG-1, but after that Atlantis takes over and bye bye original awesome cast hello stupid asses. Shit!

Yeah I saw Firefly on DVD recently. Great show. Shame Fox screwed it over. At least they allowed Space:Above and Beyond to get to a whole season and a cliffhanger before they canned it and left us all dangling.
 

Phoenix

Member
COCKLES said:
Yeah I saw Firefly on DVD recently. Great show. Shame Fox screwed it over. At least they allowed Space:Above and Beyond to get to a whole season and a cliffhanger before they canned it and left us all dangling.

I actually cared more about the Firefly characters that I care about ANY of these clowns on Enterprise. I am a lover of Trek, but this show just seems to get worse and worse as it goes on.
 

Kumiko Nikaido

Vindication...sweet.
COCKLES said:
That's how I feel after an episode of Enterprise.

Another fucking time-war faction? How many are there?!?!

How long before the universe just cracks and buckles with all these changes to the timeline?

Yes, this whole timeline/time-travel thing is so old-hat. Berman needs to stop using the powers of Q, pronto. :p
 

COCKLES

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Bermans already preparing the new Trek Academy movie.

:(

This guy is the vampire bug on the arse of the franchise and he won't be satisified till Star Trek is a deceased husk.
 

Kumiko Nikaido

Vindication...sweet.
COCKLES said:
Bermans already preparing the new Trek Academy movie.

:(

This guy is the vampire bug on the arse of the franchise and he won't be satisified till Star Trek is a deceased husk.

Too early to tell if the supposed Trek Academy movie will turn out. If done right, then it may be good. Also, Kate Mulgrew has expressed open interest in a Voyager movie........
 
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