I didnt say I would vote for him if I could, but that I would vote for him if I had to, and I said that at a point where Zee and I were the two most likely to be lynched. Basically, if it came down to me or Zee by the end of the day, I would vote for Zee to assure that I wouldnt be lynched, even though I didnt read them as scum.
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I didnt say I would vote for him if I could, but that I would vote for him if I had to, and I said that at a point where Zee and I were the two most likely to be lynched. Basically, if it came down to me or Zee by the end of the day, I would vote for Zee to assure that I wouldnt be lynched, even though I didnt read them as scum.
Sure, but why vote Kalor instead?
Because it was another option over Zee, and it cemented that I wouldnt be lynched.
I already said this earlier today.
But at that moment in time they were tied, how exactly was kalor a better option?
Because I spent more time looking at Zees comments at the end of Day 2 and read them more Town leaning. I looked over Kalor briefly and my read was neutral.
I voted for one over the other because of that, and to try and guarantee I wouldnt be lynched if votes suddenly shifted my way.
Coming up on deadline time to revisit the rankings
TOWN
CCS
Penguin
Giant Panda
Swamped*
Fat4All
acohrs
Sorian
Dr Worm
Ourobolous
Nomadic Sparks
SalvaPot
zeemumu
Dusk Soldier
The Wizard
Kawl_USC
*Splinter
zeusy
SCUM
Obviously Splinter has massively tumbled down the rankings and less sure about Dr Worm. Big rises for acohrs and Fat4All. Mild rise for Sorian.
TOWN
CCS
Penguin
Giant Panda
Swamped*
Fat4All
acohrs
Sorian
Dr Worm
Ourobolous
Nomadic Sparks
SalvaPot
zeemumu
Dusk Soldier
The Wizard
Kawl_USC
*Splinter
zeusy
SCUM
Obviously Splinter has massively tumbled down the rankings and less sure about Dr Worm. Big rises for acohrs and Fat4All. Mild rise for Sorian.
i'll give you points for not fake-claiming cop as a townie and then getting me lynched (also a townie)
Why don't you write it down so we can compare notes.
I'm not gonna rack-and-stack everyone individually so these are just categories but they aren't in any order.
Townie:
Splinter
Kawl_USC
Sorian (begrudgingly)
CCS
Lean Townie:
Salvapot (begrudgingly, but that was a surprisingly detailed post for him)
Faddy (misguided as hell I think, but is trying)
Null:
Nomadic Sparks
Zeusy
acohrs
Giant Panda
Dusk Soldier
Lean Scummy:
Swamped
Scummy:
Fat4All
Penguin
zeemumu (contingent on fat flipping town)
Dr.Worm / Wizard (contingent on fat flipping scum)
Townie:
Splinter
Kawl_USC
Sorian (begrudgingly)
CCS
Lean Townie:
Salvapot (begrudgingly, but that was a surprisingly detailed post for him)
Faddy (misguided as hell I think, but is trying)
Null:
Nomadic Sparks
Zeusy
acohrs
Giant Panda
Dusk Soldier
Lean Scummy:
Swamped
Scummy:
Fat4All
Penguin
zeemumu (contingent on fat flipping town)
Dr.Worm / Wizard (contingent on fat flipping scum)
Day 3 votes:
fat4all (4)
ccs 1038 (1152)
ourobolus 1050
the wizard 1062
zeusy 1109
nomadic sparks 1112
zeusy (3)
ccs 1152
faddy 1196
fat4all 1334
zeemumu (3)
giant panda 1256
penguin 1341
salvapot 1349
sorian (2)
*splinter 1009
acohrs 1018
swamped (2)
kawl_usc 1029
sorian 1083
salvapot (1)
dusk soldier 1107
salvapot 1111 (1348)
penguin (1)
zeemumu 1250
kalor (0)
salvapot 1348 (1349)
DAY 3 ENDS:
fat4all (4)
ourobolus 1050
the wizard 1062
zeusy 1109
nomadic sparks 1112
zeusy (3)
ccs 1152
faddy 1196
fat4all 1334
zeemumu (3)
giant panda 1256
penguin 1341
salvapot 1349
sorian (2)
*splinter 1009
acohrs 1018
swamped (2)
kawl_usc 1029
sorian 1083
salvapot (1)
dusk soldier 1107
penguin (1)
zeemumu 1250
kalor (0)
DAY 3 ENDS:
I'm going back to this in a moment, a customer just arrived.
Like Faddy's readlist format so snaking it:
TOWN
CCS
Ourobolous
Kawl_USC
*Splinter
zeemumu
zeusy
Faddy
SalvaPot
Nomadic Sparks
Giant Panda
Penguin
Fat4All
Dusk Soldier
Dr Worm
The Wizard
Swamped*
Sorian
SCUM
Liking Ouro, Splinter, and Kawl's contributions so far, so after the semi-confirmed CCS, I read them as most towny. After that the z's, just don't see them being scum based on their actions. Faddy and Salva are next, like their contributions (in Salva's case his big contribution), but can't pin them down definitely as towny. Feeling slightly better about fatdog after today, don't think they're town yet, more NAI with a slight scum lean.
Next lot until Dusk, are NAI to me, can't determine whether town or scum. Would have included dusk in that list too until Salva's post, made me scumlean on dusk. HAven't liked Dr Worm's contributions, feels like drive by posts, doing enough to not be the main scumread but not enough to appear to be hunting as much as others. the Wizard/swamped strike me as classic scum coasters, but with swamped being replaced and the wizard not hitting today's post limit, will hold off until tomorrow.
Sorian is my main scumlean for today, for reasons stated when I voted, and also, get a feeling that Sorian is trying to muddy the waters with his discussion than help town solve. Especially with his comments in the aftermath of d2 end
TOWN
CCS
Ourobolous
Kawl_USC
*Splinter
zeemumu
zeusy
Faddy
SalvaPot
Nomadic Sparks
Giant Panda
Penguin
Fat4All
Dusk Soldier
Dr Worm
The Wizard
Swamped*
Sorian
SCUM
Liking Ouro, Splinter, and Kawl's contributions so far, so after the semi-confirmed CCS, I read them as most towny. After that the z's, just don't see them being scum based on their actions. Faddy and Salva are next, like their contributions (in Salva's case his big contribution), but can't pin them down definitely as towny. Feeling slightly better about fatdog after today, don't think they're town yet, more NAI with a slight scum lean.
Next lot until Dusk, are NAI to me, can't determine whether town or scum. Would have included dusk in that list too until Salva's post, made me scumlean on dusk. HAven't liked Dr Worm's contributions, feels like drive by posts, doing enough to not be the main scumread but not enough to appear to be hunting as much as others. the Wizard/swamped strike me as classic scum coasters, but with swamped being replaced and the wizard not hitting today's post limit, will hold off until tomorrow.
Sorian is my main scumlean for today, for reasons stated when I voted, and also, get a feeling that Sorian is trying to muddy the waters with his discussion than help town solve. Especially with his comments in the aftermath of d2 end
A jester role to explain his scum behaviour. Just completely pulled straight out Wizard's ass surely someone will come in and call him out for these mental gymnastics....
Oh wait it is Splinter ignoring Wizard's mad cap read and insisting Zeusy is on the level... again.
Low hanging fruit, someone else can get it
Thinking about a jester role makes sense if it's your first game in the community and only have experience with like town of Salem or some shit. That comment is NAI.
And apparently zeusy played just like this in infamous and was town, so I think that is just his style. I get bad town player from him more than scum man. It's not just splinter, maybe pull up from the tunnel a bit.
The Wizard
Member
Personally I would reverse the contingencies on those last two, if Fat is scum it's possible Zee was scum brethren which is why the late entrance of Kalor was necessary to scum. Could be a long shot. Similarly if Fat is scum I don't see much incentive for me or worm to put him out on the spotlight as much as he has been. Don't see why a scum Fat would hesitate to vote off a town Zee with the easy excuse of self preservation.
Still missing Salvas post for Zee if I haven't missed something.
If Zee is to gain momentum late today I could be convinced to switch votes there, imo either Fat or Zee will give us good information to work from but Fat will fill in a bit more gaps. Looking back on day 2 I realise I could have had more influence by switching to Zee before the cutoff but by the time I was making my post (last minute) all it would have done is resulted in a tie.
Asked hours ago about reasons to town read Zeusy for his unexplained, out of the blue votes, weird play and .... no response.
Bring in another bit of scummy evidence and he bat signal goes out to rally round.
The Wizard
Member
Without knowing much about Zeusys individual playstyle I found his posts aloof and non-helpful enough that I felt jester was a real possibility. Don't know how common that role is in these games but I could see it being played in the manner he has posted so far, successfully pissing off other players enough to draw early attention to him. It sounds like he's been like this before though so that theory feels weaker, don't particularly see him as scum though.
Gafia: Too Dumb to be Scum
Well I mean typically you've got a whole team to coordinate with on the backend to "coach"
Look at how much energy is being expended for a player who didn't even make the minimum post count yesterday. You can only do so much coaching in the background, eventually you need to put the fires out in the thread.
I'll keep my eye on the replacement. Swamped is a lean scum for me, but not a top priority at the moment.
When they can't claim? It's not that urgent.
so, taking into account my voteblock today, I'm not sure if I'd still want a fat lynch
I've been a bit busy the past couple of days, so I haven't had access to a desktop for the most part, though I've read through the arguments of the past couple of pages
my arguments were of much the same substance as anyone else's going into the final hour of D1 or D2; posts without much in the way of substance, reads that seemed overly safe to me.
no one paid any attention to this on D1; it was only toward the tail end of D2 that fat4all ever became anything of a wagon. I wasn't even around for the back half, as my availability doesn't sync with the EODs
for all the talk about Kalor as the out of nowhere option, fat4all wasn't on the menu until Wizard paid attention to me around six hours before the deadline, at which point he went from unconsidered to second-string. acohrs then clambered aboard with ten minutes to go, followed by Ouro two minutes later. zeemumu had three going into those final hours - an Ouro vote from the start of the phase, CSS and Kawl a decent amount prior to the vote, Kalor and Penguin the hour prior. the OG target was zeemumu, and I think it's possible that the fat train took off to distract from him.
I don't know what Nomadic and Zeusy and Sorian were up to with Kalor. Zeusy still didn't respond to my query here:
and I'd be curious about opening this up to everyone else, for that matter, because it would definitely appear to be intentional that I'm targeted here
I've been a bit busy the past couple of days, so I haven't had access to a desktop for the most part, though I've read through the arguments of the past couple of pages
my arguments were of much the same substance as anyone else's going into the final hour of D1 or D2; posts without much in the way of substance, reads that seemed overly safe to me.
no one paid any attention to this on D1; it was only toward the tail end of D2 that fat4all ever became anything of a wagon. I wasn't even around for the back half, as my availability doesn't sync with the EODs
for all the talk about Kalor as the out of nowhere option, fat4all wasn't on the menu until Wizard paid attention to me around six hours before the deadline, at which point he went from unconsidered to second-string. acohrs then clambered aboard with ten minutes to go, followed by Ouro two minutes later. zeemumu had three going into those final hours - an Ouro vote from the start of the phase, CSS and Kawl a decent amount prior to the vote, Kalor and Penguin the hour prior. the OG target was zeemumu, and I think it's possible that the fat train took off to distract from him.
I don't know what Nomadic and Zeusy and Sorian were up to with Kalor. Zeusy still didn't respond to my query here:
and I'd be curious about opening this up to everyone else, for that matter, because it would definitely appear to be intentional that I'm targeted here
I mean I don't really gaf about claims if I'm feeling some one as scum. Unless we get receipts. Which is slim enough chance that I'd still rather lynch my top scum
You move off your top scum read to a train started by them? So is Swamped scum with Sorian?
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DAY 3 CURRENT VOTE TALLY:
Fat4all (4)
CCS 1038 1152
Ourobolus 1050
The Wizard 1062
Zeusy 1109
Nomadic Sparks 1112
Zeusy (3)
CCS 1152
Faddy 1196
Fat4all 1334
zeemumu (3)
Giant Panda 1256
Penguin 1341
SalvaPot 1349
Swamped (2)
Kawl_USC 1029
Sorian 1083 1386
acohrs 1385
SalvaPot (1)
Dusk Soldier 1107
SalvaPot 1111 1348
Sorian (1)
*Splinter 1009
acohrs 1018 1385
Penguin (1)
zeemumu 1250
No active vote for Day 3: Dr. Worm, Sorian (has previously voted), Swamped
Day 3 Postcount: *Splinter 43, acohrs 26, CCS 15, Dr. Worm 10, Dusk Soldier 11, Faddy 43, Fat4all 21, Giant Panda 11, Kawl_USC 59, Nomadic Sparks 5, Ourobolus 43, Penguin 18, SalvaPot 14, Sorian 33, Swamped 6, The Wizard 10, zeemumu 22, Zeusy 14
Day 3 ends:
Automated vote tally here
10 votes for majority
Fat4all (4)
Ourobolus 1050
The Wizard 1062
Zeusy 1109
Nomadic Sparks 1112
Zeusy (3)
CCS 1152
Faddy 1196
Fat4all 1334
zeemumu (3)
Giant Panda 1256
Penguin 1341
SalvaPot 1349
Swamped (2)
Kawl_USC 1029
acohrs 1385
SalvaPot (1)
Dusk Soldier 1107
Sorian (1)
*Splinter 1009
Penguin (1)
zeemumu 1250
No active vote for Day 3: Dr. Worm, Sorian (has previously voted), Swamped
Day 3 Postcount: *Splinter 43, acohrs 26, CCS 15, Dr. Worm 10, Dusk Soldier 11, Faddy 43, Fat4all 21, Giant Panda 11, Kawl_USC 59, Nomadic Sparks 5, Ourobolus 43, Penguin 18, SalvaPot 14, Sorian 33, Swamped 6, The Wizard 10, zeemumu 22, Zeusy 14
Day 3 ends:
Automated vote tally here
10 votes for majority
wasn't started by sorian, started by kawl who I townread
Still you moved off one Sorian only to align with him. So is Sorian scum or not?
It's as if there are multiple day phases to the game.....
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Anyway, as much as I'm meh on Swamped, I'm reluctant to kill off a spot that literally can't defend itself. I'm not voting for Fat or Zeemumu though and Zeusy is a weird one for me. Gut all the way back from day 1 says that's town but he continues to not leave much of an impression as the day goes on.
doesn't matter who has voted for who until end of day and the vote sticks. Now if sorian votes for swamped at day end, then I will reconsider my read of him
No analysis at all? Really now? I expected more from you Sorian, I gave pretty much a big reason why Dusk could be scum and how zeem and the others listed could have help him get away with it, do you really think my theory doesn't hold water?
Sorian come join me on the Zeusy read. Sure Salva has done nothing but at least there is a mild excuse of coming in late to the game where as Zeusy has been here from the start and somehow done less.
tempting...
Yeah, I read the post and the grab at Dusk seems weird, like you pulled a name out of a hat. He was the only one completely off wagon that still had a vote which is shit but not the damning piece to set him in motion as a complete mastermind of events. The rest of your list is just a hodgepodge of the Kalor voters and it all reads random more than having actual reason to it.