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Ridley Scott Pins ‘The Last Duel’ Bombing on Apathetic Millennials
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DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
It's based on a story that actually happened... It's nothing like GoT. WTH?!?
Kev Kev
Member
It really is tho
The shit of it is, our generation will do the same fuckin thing. Every generation gets shit from the one before them. Millennials were just the first to receive it via the internet, so the fist shaking was much more intense than generations past.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
I was going to see it but then I didn't so I'm part of the problem. Love this guy's films though. Even his misses have merit. Making Alien, Blade Runner and Legend back to back to back made him a favorite of mine forever.
Ya check it out when it's on your phone
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Kenpachii
Member
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
I still don't due to the movie being a feminist film. So glad it bombed
badblue
Gold Member
This thread was the first time I heard anything about this movie.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
Dude... It's based on actual history.
BigBooper
Member
I wonder... The actual history was a he said she said argument. Does this movie keep that, or do the show/imply the rape? Doesn't really impact whether I'll watch it or not, because if Ridley Scott directed, I almost certainly will.
If anyone knows, feel free to answer in a spoiler please.
plushyp
Member
The full truth and details are lost to history but the movie is based on a book suggesting she was in the right rather than the squire.
sol_bad
Member
Why is it a feminist film?
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
Sounds more like a he said she said thing
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sol_bad
Member
That's exactly what it is, a he said / she said scenario.
The movie shows you the story from 3 points of view, Matt Damon, Adam Driver and Jodie Comers point of view.
From Matt Damon's point of view Adam Driver is an arse hole.
From Adam Driver's point of view Matt Damon comes across as a loser idiot.
From Adam Drivers point of view the scene comes across as more "fun" and jovial, although you can still tell that Jodie Comers isn't interested. Where as from Jodie Comers point of view it was a terrifying ordeal. Then you have Jodie Comers informing her husband about the rape, from Matt Damon's view point he comes across as a "hero" standing up for his wife. From Jodie Comers viewpoint he comes across as a prick and the proceeding scenes are done for his own gain, not his wife's.
For the final battle I really wanted Matt Damon to win, not Adam Driver. I won't say who wins here. 
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NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
Still skipping itThat's exactly what it is, a he said / she said scenario.
The movie shows you the story from 3 points of view, Matt Damon, Adam Driver and Jodie Comers point of view.
From Matt Damon's point of view Adam Driver is an arse hole.
From Adam Driver's point of view Matt Damon comes across as a loser idiot.
From Adam Drivers point of view the scene comes across as more "fun" and jovial, although you can still tell that Jodie Comers isn't interested. Where as from Jodie Comers point of view it was a terrifying ordeal. Then you have Jodie Comers informing her husband about the rape, from Matt Damon's view point he comes across as a "hero" standing up for his wife. From Jodie Comers viewpoint her comes across as a prick and the proceeding scenes are done for his own gain, not his wife's.
For the final battle I really wanted Matt Damon to win, not Adam Driver. I won't say who wins here.
Stuart360
Member
Even though Ridley is kind of right, there was nothing about this film that looked appealing really. Basically a court room drama from old times, involving whether or not a woman was raped, and if she liked it or not. I mean yay sounds great lol.
Anywya Ridley films are hit or miss at best, especially in the last decade or two. He's very much in his 'sleepwlaking' stage of his career.
Also although the box ofice is slowly rebuilding back to pre covid time, its really only Marvel movies that are grossing anywhere close to what they would of done pre-covid, and that sucks to be honest.
Anywya Ridley films are hit or miss at best, especially in the last decade or two. He's very much in his 'sleepwlaking' stage of his career.
Also although the box ofice is slowly rebuilding back to pre covid time, its really only Marvel movies that are grossing anywhere close to what they would of done pre-covid, and that sucks to be honest.
Tams
Member
No one should ever trust your take on anything if you're willing to judge it without even seeing it.
Edit: Call it name calling, but people like that need calling out. We're not allowed to (mildly) insult them, but they're allowed to keep their terrible views up...
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Alcibiades
Member
I didn't really see it that way having watched the movie. The subject matter on a meta-level maybe, but at no point does anything happen that seems out of place for the time period. Even the duel itself is the ultimate "man standing up for wife's honor" where basically men determine the outcome and the women have no agency. On a general level you could say the accuracy of the time period reflected is an indictment on the male, chauvinistic culture at the time, but you could say the same for The Godfather or like 90% of period pieces ever made that show women treated to a lower status.
It's a dour, slow, and sometimes uncomfortable film and like I said the subject matter may be "me-too"-ish, but I can't see ultra feminists enjoying much about it.
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manfestival
Member
I didn't know this existed. Just glimpsed at the trailer and it looks nice. Would watch
Scotty W
Banned
If you read Homer carefully, you will see that one of the keys to it is the ambiguity around the rape of Helen. It is never clear what really happened, and this uncertainty deepens both poems immensely, since as the inciting incident, it can change the meaning of the whole work. If it is good enough to be the foundational work of western civilization, I would argue that it is still good enough for 2021.
Fbh
Member
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Never heard of this movie. Maybe do some marketing lmao
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Sidney Prescott
Member
Even before Covid hit, I was preferring to watch movies at home. I imagine since the pandemic many are opting to do the same because it's cheaper and safer.
There's a few reasons I prefer it:
1) You can pause when you want. Budging past people to go to the bathroom isn't fun during the movie.
2) Snacks are a lot less expensive, and you have more options.
3) Not having to deal with external noises. I find myself more immersed when I'm at home and not surrounded by people.
The only thing the cinema really has going for me these days is the big screen experience. I'll make an effort for movies like the new Matrix coming out, but the marketing has to be good and grab me. I echo the above of not hearing a lot about this movie.
There's a few reasons I prefer it:
1) You can pause when you want. Budging past people to go to the bathroom isn't fun during the movie.
2) Snacks are a lot less expensive, and you have more options.
3) Not having to deal with external noises. I find myself more immersed when I'm at home and not surrounded by people.
The only thing the cinema really has going for me these days is the big screen experience. I'll make an effort for movies like the new Matrix coming out, but the marketing has to be good and grab me. I echo the above of not hearing a lot about this movie.
Joshmyersbv
Member
Don't blame millennials, blame the parents and social media who raised them.
DetectiveBananas
Member
A. Picked the wrong year to expect people to flock to the movie theaters for a medieval movie.
B. Streaming options are at an all time high and much cheaper alternative.
C. He’s burned a lot of us on previous movies this last decade, so faith in his offerings isn’t at a peak.
…..(Insert Principal Skinner Library Meme Here——>……..)
B. Streaming options are at an all time high and much cheaper alternative.
C. He’s burned a lot of us on previous movies this last decade, so faith in his offerings isn’t at a peak.
…..(Insert Principal Skinner Library Meme Here——>……..)
Hari Seldon
Member
NecrosaroIII
Ultimate DQ Fan
Fuck Dunkirk
sol_bad
Member
It's definitely not a courtroom drama. The courtroom scene is probably 5% of the whole film.
TaylorSwiftFan
Member
Still a he said she said scenario.
Millennials weren’t raised by social media though. It wasn’t around when we were growing up.
fatmarco
Member
The real success of this film I felt was how close it sticks to the historical facts/ testimonials. Very little of it strays from what we know of the events.
The only real obnoxious historical inaccuracy I guess was the helmets in the duel, but they were done that way so you could see their faces.
But the truth is having something not be compromised by contemporary issues or anachronisms is really a breath of fresh air, even if the movie maybe doesn't reach its full dramatic potential.
The only real obnoxious historical inaccuracy I guess was the helmets in the duel, but they were done that way so you could see their faces.
But the truth is having something not be compromised by contemporary issues or anachronisms is really a breath of fresh air, even if the movie maybe doesn't reach its full dramatic potential.
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DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
I haven't seen it yet. Hope it gets a steelbook release. The standard was up at Best Buy a week ago but they removed the listing for some reason. I'll see it when it comes out on physical.
mekes
Member
I'll totally watch it on my 6.7" screen in 2022.
Jokes aside, I bet the movie is great. I still love Ridley. But I didn't even go to the cinema for Dune. I was glued to Dune when I watched it at home, it didn't feel a minute over 90 minutes long despite being much longer. My attention span is fine. My thirst for good movies lives on. I'm actually looking forward to seeing this.
Jokes aside, I bet the movie is great. I still love Ridley. But I didn't even go to the cinema for Dune. I was glued to Dune when I watched it at home, it didn't feel a minute over 90 minutes long despite being much longer. My attention span is fine. My thirst for good movies lives on. I'm actually looking forward to seeing this.
Trogdor1123
Gold Member
It's out?! Had no idea
Excess
Member
Will beg to differ on Prometheus, but only because I think the studio had too much influence in forcing Ridley to add some kind of xenomorph. This was even more apparent with Alien Covenant, which I absolutely hated.
Another movie I heard was shit until the director's cut of Kingdom of Heaven. I still haven't seen the sequel, but now I'm interested.
Another movie I heard was shit until the director's cut of Kingdom of Heaven. I still haven't seen the sequel, but now I'm interested.
So House of Gucci has been getting some good reviews and apparently ticket sales for that are doing well, the film has been advertised for a while now, ...and that's also a Ridley Scott movie. Who's he going to blame here as it's most likely millennials who will be watching that one. 
Heimdall_Xtreme
Hermen Hulst Fanclub's #1 Member
But honestly he is right.
Ridley Scott Pins ‘The Last Duel’ Bombing on Apathetic Millennials
The film starring Matt Damon, Adam Driver, Jodie Comer and Ben Affleck cratered when it arrived exclusively in theaters in late October.www.hollywoodreporter.com
Fucking millennials... they ruin everything.
dr_octagon
Banned
Ok Blade Boomer. The guy has liek one successful film and named after a Metroid boss. Take your pills and go to bed, same goes for Chris Nolamb and Denise Vilnew.
Mossybrew
Banned
Movie theaters are a niche interest now. Stream this shit, I want to watch it on my 65" on my couch with no annoying fuckers talking, eating too loud, theater sound mix too loud, can pause for pee breaks, just can't compete anymore. Like dude I'll watch your movie when I can in my home, chill.