Mariah Carey
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From what I've heard the script to this is really, really weird.
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Ridley talks about the Alien prequel. Lions and tigers and Space Jockeys, oh my!
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Pctx said:
I don't disagree at all; I loved it, and it's my second favorite Scott film behind Alien. I'm just saying I don't think it, or Scott, is immune to criticism because the film's central character is so horribly written.
As is, Kingdom of Heaven DC is awesome. If Orlando Bloom's character had been less of a Mary Sue (or whatever the male equivalent is called), I'd hold it up as the best sword-and-sandals epic ever.
Mariah Carey
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Blader5489 said:
They said that about the last Alien movie, too.
Discotheque
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Pctx said:
It's one of his best films ever. But I think it's about on par with Gladiator and Matchstick Men.
And below Alien/Blade Runner.
BravoSuperStar
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Pctx said:
You mean since Blade Runner, right?
Vinci said:
I doubt that the Space Jockey is going to be a major part of the film. I think it is going to be about humans making first contact with an alien vessel, which is that craft that has crashed on the planet at the beginning of Alien. They are either going to arrive on the craft after the space jockeys are all dead or during their conflict with the Aliens, but while it is still in space. The conflict that follows will lead to the craft crashing on the planet in the end. Although I do seem to recall that Alien implied that the craft had been there for hundreds or thousands of years, so we may not actually see a space jockey in action, unless it is in some sort of flashback or intro to the film. They may explain a bit about the Space Jockey's but the film will not center on their conflict with the aliens.
I'll say the say thing I said over on the AV Club
The franchise itself is really neat for film buffs. Each of the mainline Alien features a different (but great) director doing their own thang with the series.
I don't hate 3 like many, its just different. 4 isn't good, but its cool that they took so many chances with it and grabbed a really interesting choice for the director's seat.
While this may turn out good its true that I liked the Jockey being a mystery I really would be happier to see a different director have their shot.
I'd rather have Alien 5 directed by Alfonso Cauron (or whoever) over a prequel with a long established director at the helm.
I'll admit, this is just me being a film snob, but its my opinion just the same.
The franchise itself is really neat for film buffs. Each of the mainline Alien features a different (but great) director doing their own thang with the series.
I don't hate 3 like many, its just different. 4 isn't good, but its cool that they took so many chances with it and grabbed a really interesting choice for the director's seat.
While this may turn out good its true that I liked the Jockey being a mystery I really would be happier to see a different director have their shot.
I'd rather have Alien 5 directed by Alfonso Cauron (or whoever) over a prequel with a long established director at the helm.
I'll admit, this is just me being a film snob, but its my opinion just the same.
I'm not sure. I was being hypothetical. I'd love someone great but current to take a stab at it. The series has had 4 amazing directors all with very different styles have a turn. I say keep the train rollingBlader5489 said:
(fuck it Alien 6 dir by Michelle Gondry ftw:lol )
K, lets get down to business...
KoH
C is above Gladiator and most definitely above MM, but again, we're arguing taste over substance.
KoHC did was Gladiator wanted to do--- and did it so much better. People who hate Bloom's casting are mostly basing that off of their hate for him in LoTR or the fact that he simply doesn't get the job done. I think he nailed the role and ultimately was the glue that held the movie together with his post-melancholy drama after his wifes/babies death.
Scott also had a much more interesting story to tell between the Christians and Muslims but again--- Gladiator tried to tie in religion but to Scott's credit, he didn't want to wash the film so he took it another route.
Everyone is going to hate on some of those. Body of Lies is quickly becoming one of my cult favorites because it's so underrated and got horrible reception at the box office. Love the film though.
Also--- to the news of the new film... I hope Scott answers some questions, but leaves some new ones. I do not want all the questions left by the first 'Alien' film to be answered and it sounds like (from that interview) he's trying to do that. Maybe that's off-base, but I'd like to see him raise new ones and maybe--- if we see an Alien 5, 6 or 7 later down the road, it uses the lore built in the first 3 with some additions from 4 (swimming aliens) and maybe some from the prequel.
Discotheque said:
KoH
C is above Gladiator and most definitely above MM, but again, we're arguing taste over substance.KoH
C did was Gladiator wanted to do--- and did it so much better. People who hate Bloom's casting are mostly basing that off of their hate for him in LoTR or the fact that he simply doesn't get the job done. I think he nailed the role and ultimately was the glue that held the movie together with his post-melancholy drama after his wifes/babies death. Scott also had a much more interesting story to tell between the Christians and Muslims but again--- Gladiator tried to tie in religion but to Scott's credit, he didn't want to wash the film so he took it another route.
Blade Runner is in my Top 10 movies of all time. In terms of Scott's directing of it, it was near brilliant, but being the huge Alien buff, Alien wins out (for me) again on so many levels of genius. Again, that's my taste. I know a lot of movie guru's out there like to argue the finer points of BR, but again--- Alien--- Scott does such a brilliant job of capturing our most primal fear that you just don't get that same sense in BR.BravoSuperStar said:
pringles said:
Everyone is going to hate on some of those. Body of Lies is quickly becoming one of my cult favorites because it's so underrated and got horrible reception at the box office. Love the film though.
Also--- to the news of the new film... I hope Scott answers some questions, but leaves some new ones. I do not want all the questions left by the first 'Alien' film to be answered and it sounds like (from that interview) he's trying to do that. Maybe that's off-base, but I'd like to see him raise new ones and maybe--- if we see an Alien 5, 6 or 7 later down the road, it uses the lore built in the first 3 with some additions from 4 (swimming aliens) and maybe some from the prequel.
pringles said:
I would add
G.I. Jane
White Squall
Thelma and Louise
Black Rain
Legend
Not necessarily all classics, but at least good films all of them.
Now that I look at this list, Ridley is the master of making Good but not great movies. Yes he only has two or three great ones, but he only has two bad ones IMO, and everything else is good to great.
FreedomFrisbee
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I'm trying to imagine how this would be. Obviously there will be people in it. I can't imagine the entire movie being space jockeys. So what if the Space Jockey is the Alien of this film? I think that would be interesting. They find his ship, enter it and he tries to kill them. I dunno.
Point is it could work, and there are definitely roads that can be taken.
Point is it could work, and there are definitely roads that can be taken.
http://www.collider.com/2010/04/23/ridley-scott-confirms-alien-prequel-will-be-shot-in-3d/
Ridley confirms that he's shooting in 3D
He also says he is planning TWO Alien prequels, though who knows if he will go beyond the first one
Ridley confirms that he's shooting in 3D
He also says he is planning TWO Alien prequels, though who knows if he will go beyond the first one
SCULLIBUNDO
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I'm most excited for this because it might ween him back into sci-fi and closer to finally shooting The Forever War.
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shintoki said:
Haha yeah, lets see if he follows through.
Anyways some random on the net said that James Cameron said on an article on Entertainment Weekly (yeah this is sounding extremely reliable at the moment) that Michael Mann is shooting a 3D fantasy film.
Michael Mann. 3D Fantasy Film. ........
The fucker was right
Well, from the look of things, it seems like Robin Hood is a total sham, I have a feeling he has gotten bored of that type of movie, so hopefully he does make more of a move back into Sci-Fi beyond this Alien prequel.Scullibundo said:
And I like what he is saying, describing the movie as more based on a sci-fi concept (terraforming) rather than purely another old alien movie.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Yeah that's what I said in an earlier post.
We call it a shake 'n bake colony.
We call it a shake 'n bake colony.
Ether_Snake
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Let me guess.
The aliens were created as a bio-weapon to take out this space-jockey alien race, and the aliens we know today only came into existence after bursting out of their chests!
I can't imagine this is a good idea at all. They'd be better off making a completely new alien film unrelated to the previous ones. Then again, it's sort of run its course. There's really no point in making any more of these.
In fact, might as well just make it a big aliens-on-Earth popcorn flick with some Final Destination rejects as the main cast.
If they can pull it off, cool, but I doubt it.
The aliens were created as a bio-weapon to take out this space-jockey alien race, and the aliens we know today only came into existence after bursting out of their chests!
I can't imagine this is a good idea at all. They'd be better off making a completely new alien film unrelated to the previous ones. Then again, it's sort of run its course. There's really no point in making any more of these.
In fact, might as well just make it a big aliens-on-Earth popcorn flick with some Final Destination rejects as the main cast.
If they can pull it off, cool, but I doubt it.
robertsan21
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If I where Ridley I would focus on the space jockey story and create a totaly new story for the aliensaga, I really hope they do not even show one single frame or even talk about the alien monster that we have come to know from previous films.
TOM f'N CRUISE
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SCULLIBUNDO
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HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8644051.stm
This film is sounding better and better.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8644051.stm
This film is sounding better and better.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Gallbaro said:
Who said it was going to be an action flick?
beelzebozo
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the aliens better be practical effects, you son of a bitch.
or at least a hybrid, with practical effects being the primary.
or at least a hybrid, with practical effects being the primary.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Scott isn't usually one for CG, so that is what I expect.
Randy Lanzarote
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Certainly an interesting idea, there is a conspiracy at work in Alien which never really got answered. What was the space jockey doing there? How did Weyland-Utani know about the alien vessel on the planet's surface? Had their been a previous mission to capture the Alien? Is the Alien man-made or a mere scouting party for something much worse?
I hope that it goes someway towards providing a definitive backstory for the Aliens, just so we can't have anymore prequels or AvP movies from lazy producers, greedy studios and wannabe directors.
I hope that it goes someway towards providing a definitive backstory for the Aliens, just so we can't have anymore prequels or AvP movies from lazy producers, greedy studios and wannabe directors.
Jedeye Sniv
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God god this film sounds like ass. Al lthis prequel bullshit is a symptom of our sickening culture, running out of original ideas and just endlessly recycling that which has come before. I hope we're at the nadir of this valley of creativity, I don't know how much more of this shit I can take...
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Solo said:
I expect a blend in terms of characters and minimal CG when it comes to environment. I'm expecting some grand sets that he'll shoot in native 3D.
FreedomFrisbee
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Oh shit! What if they got Giger to design the entire space jockey instead of just that fossilized form? I remember in the comics they had elephant trunks.
Blader5489 said:
Alien takes place, apparently, in the year 2122...so uh it has to be 40 years before, not 5. The writer of the article made a mistake I guess.
Fun fact: the Zeta Reticuli system is 39 light years away from the Earth IRL...that's quite the technology jump Ridley is expecting.
Scullibundo said:
I remember on the bonus-movies on the Quadrilogy-DVD the set-builders were struggling with the designs of Giger. I expect no less from the 3D-artists.
On a different note: CG will probably be the way to go for a large portion of the movie. The Space Jockey-set was actually built as high as the studio could physically allow (the set was built against the roof), Scott used his kids in space-suits to create the illusion that the Jockey was bigger than he actually was.
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jett said:Alien takes place, apparently, in the year 2122...so uh it has to be 40 years before, not 5. The writer of the article made a mistake I guess.
Fun fact: the Zeta Reticuli system is 39 light years away from the Earth IRL...that's quite the technology jump Ridley is expecting.
I agree, but then again, a person from 112 years ago would hardly be expected to believe that they could get from China to New York in less than a day.
It's not thaaaat unfeasable really, assuming we'd be able to traverse 39 light years in 40 years (so rather close to the speed of light) then we'd have invent the technology capable of this by 2082 or something - or the technology to go half the speed of light by 2042.jett said:Alien takes place, apparently, in the year 2122...so uh it has to be 40 years before, not 5. The writer of the article made a mistake I guess.
Fun fact: the Zeta Reticuli system is 39 light years away from the Earth IRL...that's quite the technology jump Ridley is expecting.
Maybe a big technology jump afterall.
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