I'm guessing the jury heard things we didn't, because he looked pretty freaking guilty.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050316/D88SBFB00.html
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050316/D88SBFB00.html
Agent Icebeezy said:No eyewitnesses, blood or DNA evidence linked Blake to the crime...
Not beyond reasonable doubt
Shogmaster said:I heard that he's planning to join OJ for a round of golf, right after he puts out a bounty for the real killer. :lol
Shogmaster said:I heard that he's planning to join OJ for a round of golf, right after he puts out a bounty for the real killer. :lol
South Park Episode said:So you see, there was no "some Puerto Rican guy." He doesn't exist. And so the people we owe the biggest apology to are the Ramseys, Congressman Condit, and O.J. We gave you false hope for finding the person who hurt those close to you and, we're sorry. Now we're just happy we won't have to live a life of secrets. For I knew that even though some of you supported us, some others were looking at me and thinking, "You're a liar! You're a LIAR!" [points at the crowd, and Condit's fixed-grin face is shown] "You know somethin' that you're not telling us, you slimy, scumbag LIAR!!" [back to Chris] Eh you know, that's what people would say to me. And then people would see my wife at the supermarket and they would say, "Hello," but they'd be thinking, "Ah, there goes that MURDERER!" [a shot of O.J.] "You got away with MURDER you murdering, lying, waste of life!!" [back to Chris] And to me, people might say things like, [a shot of Condit] "LIAR! Tell us what you know you God-damned LIAR!!" [back to Chris] And so, to both of us, people all over town would be saying things like, [a shot of the Ramseys] "You know God-damn well what happened to your kid, so stop acting like victims, and confess, you MURDERING MURDERERS!!" [a shot of O.J.] "CONFESS!!" [a shot of Condit] "LIAR!! CONFESS!!" [back to Chris] You know, and, that's what people would be saying to us, and so, we just had to come forward and tell the truth.
I heard that he's planning to join OJ for a round of golf, right after he puts out a bounty for the real killer.
teiresias said:I'll give a crap what your wonderful logical reasoning tells you about his guilt or innocence the minute you show me your PSP with an 18-bit screen.
ShadowRed said:Hell yeah finally a California jury that knows how to follow the law. I thought that was a thing of the past with the Scott Peterson case.
hippie said:He may or may not have done it. I'm just happy the jury acted responsibly and took the time necessary (9 days) to make their decision. The OJ decision was made by an irresponsible, mostly black (and quite racist) group of people who made their decision in about an hour. The ONLY reason OJ got off is because he's a black man who killed a couple white people and faced a black jury.
hippie said:He may or may not have done it. I'm just happy the jury acted responsibly and took the time necessary (9 days) to make their decision. The OJ decision was made by an irresponsible, mostly black (and quite racist) group of people who made their decision in about an hour. The ONLY reason OJ got off is because he's a black man who killed a couple white people and faced a black jury.
FrenchMovieTheme said:perhaps reasonable doubt is debatable, but lets admit this man to man, no bullshit: oj simpson killed his wife and ron goldman. now, the way that the court words the requirements of a guilty charge you could (again) arguably find him not guilty, but there is no way in fuck that any sane person HONESTLY believes OJ didn't do it.
p.s. calling the jury racist and thats why he got off is ridiculous. oj got off cause he hired the best lawyers on the face of the planet. and the chewbaca defense...
peedi said:I personally don't know whether OJ did it or not -- nor do I really care -- but are you privy to evidence the jury wasn't? How do you know he's guilty?
And OJ's lawyers had ZIP to do with him getting off. He could have had a court appointed attorney, and he'd still have seen acquittal.
You lack an understanding of the impact of celebrity.
peedi said:OJ's lawyers had ZIP to do with him getting off. He could have had a court appointed attorney, and he'd still have seen acquittal..
3rdman said:Wrong...as usual. The celebrity effect cuts both ways, just ask Martha Stewart. OJ got off because of many reasons not least of which was the complete incompetence of the prosecution team and the stupidity of the presiding judge. Cochran was smart (evil?) enough to throw the race card at Mark Furman who besides telling a few off-color jokes, was not a racist. I highly suggest to everyone to pick up a book called "Outrage" by Bugliosi. The name should be familiar as he is the man that put Charles Manson away and was also the author of "Helter Skelter." After reading that, OJ guilt is obvious, but I digress...
Anyways, back on topic, at least now Universal can now release "Lost Highway" on DVD! Whoo Hoo!!!
peedi said:Furman only told a few jokes sprinkled with the N-word. Oh, and let's not forget the witnesses who claimed Mark Furman used the term during apprehension of suspects. But he's not a racist.
peedi said:What made the OJ jury "quite racist"?
3rdman said:You judge a man by his actions not his words. I defy you to find one instance of an actual act of racism that has been proven true concerning Fuhrman.
We all know that the real killer was his son.Shogmaster said:I heard that he's planning to join OJ for a round of golf, right after he puts out a bounty for the real killer. :lol
ShadowRed said:And mostly black?
You judge a man by his actions not his words. I defy you to find one instance of an actual act of murder that has been proven true concerning OJ.
The evidence against him was "overwhelming".
hippie said:Yes, mostly black. 9 blacks, 2 whites (both females, and the only ones who initially voted guilty) and 1 hispanic. Pretty much as biased a jury as you could make. If the situation was reversed and it was an all white jury, it would have been another MLK riot. Johnny Cochran played off black America's victim mentality and lack of trust towards anybody remotely resembling a white cop and no matter what evidence was presented, they were going to find him innocent.
If every juror in every case across America used the logic used it this case, you could NEVER convict a black male of anything as you could cry racism and assume they were set up. The evidence against him was "overwhelming". If I was a family member of Nicole or Ron I would've taken matters into my own hands and killed the fucker myself. One day, rest assured, the degenerate will burn in hell.
hippie said:Yes, mostly black. 9 blacks, 2 whites (both females, and the only ones who initially voted guilty) and 1 hispanic. Pretty much as biased a jury as you could make. If the situation was reversed and it was an all white jury, it would have been another MLK riot. Johnny Cochran played off black America's victim mentality and lack of trust towards anybody remotely resembling a white cop and no matter what evidence was presented, they were going to find him innocent.
If every juror in every case across America used the logic used it this case, you could NEVER convict a black male of anything as you could cry racism and assume they were set up. The evidence against him was "overwhelming". If I was a family member of Nicole or Ron I would've taken matters into my own hands and killed the fucker myself. One day, rest assured, the degenerate will burn in hell.
peedi said:American prisons are teeming with black men put away by predominantly white juries. I don't see you complaining about how "biased" they were.
ShadowRed said:Lemming? More biased, why because they are black? Abyhow it's obvious from your post what type of person I'm talking to so there is no need to continue to argue with your brand of ignorance.
hippie said:So then, what is your suggestion? Maybe we should simply do away with the criminal justice system all-together and take matters into our own hands. Of course, then the same problems would exist.
I have my doubts that the prisons are over-flowing with innocent people, though. I'm sure it happens from time to time with both blacks and whites (possibly more blacks), but the fact is, a disproportional number of crimes are committed by blacks and until that in itself is changed, the stereotypes will continue to exist. Show me where these black men who were put away by white juries were done so unjustly. Not just unjustly, but unjustly more often than whites.
peedi said:No, I spoke to your implicit condemnation of predominantly black juries. It's obvious you believe blacks are incapable of objectivity, that they're are bound by an allegiance to skin color rather than the truth. I say you're wrong.
peedi said:More than that, I say everything you've stated borders on racism. Those black jurors spoke. You refuse to respect their judgement, disregarding their right to interpret the "evidence" as they saw fit.
peedi said:To you, a negro on a jury is a-ok, provided he complies with his master's wishes. If that negro starts to think for himself, there's a problem. That lies at the heart of white America's unhinged preoccupation with OJ's acquittal.
hippie said:Bingo, the same way someone would argue that an all-white jury in the South would be incapable of objectivity. Of course there's exceptions to this but taken as a whole, this is more or less what I believe.
You can call it whatever you want. I believe it's less of a racial issue and more of a cultural issue, though. And they didn't use any judgement.
First, don't put words into my mouth.
Secondly, what lies at the heart of the OJ acquittal was that it was one of the greatest injustices in recent history.
-jinx- said:Now wait a minute. You can't, at the same time, claim that predominantly white juries have been racist AND claim that there is no evidence that predominantly black juries have been racist. If one group of human beings has been biased along racial lines, then surely it's possible for another group.
ShadowRed said:And mostly black?
You judge a man by his actions not his words. I defy you to find one instance of an actual act of murder that has been proven true concerning OJ.
peedi said: