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StrikerObi
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Belgand said:
Excellent use of edited quotes from The Big Lebowski. I almost think that movie is BETTER with the edits because they're so fucking insane.
I don't know if I entirely agree with this. I think many of Elvis' earliest songs could very eaily be considered R&B (for what R&B was back then). While the era may have been dead in this case, I don't agree that it is out of line to call early representations of the new era into the older classification. Remember, when these songs first hit (pre-Pearl Jam, STP, Candlebox, etc) there was no such thing as grunge. The five seattle bands that gained various degrees pf fame (Soundgarden, Mother Love Bone, Screaming Trees, Alice in Chains, and Nirvana) all sounded pretty different from each other preventing them from being categorized together as grunge. It wasn't really until the second wave (Badmotorfinger, In Utero, Dirt, Ten, Core, Temple of the Dog, etc) that "grunge" took form.Belgand said:
StrikerObi said:
Thanks. I like to take it to that extra level of fanboyism as normal references are played out now. Plus, well, it's just awesome.
I saw the damn movie in theaters when it was first released. I loved it then. I'm getting a little sick of the increasing cult though.
Probably the only recent major cult film (that I like) that I didn't see in theaters was Office Space (took me two viewings on video to appreciate) or Donnie Darko (uh, yeah, it was barely in theaters). I actually saw Pi at a suburban 24 screen multiplex on opening weekend or so. They were kinda awesome as despite being an AMC they would often show limited release films in some of their extra space. Oh wait, I didn't see Hedwig and the Angry Inch in theaters either. I saw the listing and read a review in the local alt. weekly, but I was like "Ehh... I don't know... transsexual East German rock star musical?" and didn't see it. I was wrong!! Great movie, great music.
borghe said:
Except you have it too far away. You're better off calling Husker Du punk (a bad example though since they originally were hardcore... maybe Dinosaur Jr. instead? Dammit!). Many of the late-80s alternative/early-90s grunge bands were influenced by 80s alternative bands that were more directly punk influenced.
I'll miss the songs not listed, specially Lithium, I think their best album is In Utero so I want that one, but I like Nirvana, and I don't care if its popular to crap on them now.. and yes I will miss Smells Like Teen Spirit, because it would be a fucking blast at parties.. and fuck all the musical elitism talk in this fucking thread, annoys the piss out of me.
Crag Dweller
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You will keep getting these arguments as long as you continue to shoehorn music into different genres. To quote Chuck Berry "It's all Rock&Roll baby!".
I'm not sure if Chuck ever said that, but it still holds true.
I'm not sure if Chuck ever said that, but it still holds true.
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sneaky77 said:
I like this post.
Except for the bolded part because a) it's fun and b) brings the lolz
Crag Dweller said:You will keep getting these arguments as long as you continue to shoehorn music into different genres. To quote Chuck Berry "It's all Rock&Roll baby!".
I'm not sure if Chuck ever said that, but it still holds true.
Well, that's where it gets really interesting. I mean, if we look at the Ramones they were originally just trying to get rock and roll back to it's roots with short, fast, basic songs.
That's what's sometimes great about this thread when new songs come out: we can't agree that it's rock and roll and there's a good number of us that strongly dislike it.
dammitmattt
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I don't understand the Nirvana hate. Just because they were overexposed doesn't mean they suck and it doesn't make their music any worse.
Jazzy Network
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Holy shit I beat Move Along on expert drums. Shit is hard as hell. WOOOO.
TheGreatDave
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sneaky77 said:
I don't think it's elitism. I mean, if you put all of GAF in one thread, and relegated all discussion of video games in general to one, disorganised meeting place, you'd get these kind of exchanges. We all love one another really.
StrikerObi said:
It's nice to know that every time I don't get something in this thread, it's because you're all quoting the same few movies over and over. I guess I better watch The Big Lebowski.
TheGreatDave
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Costanza said:
I was wrong about you, your taste sucks after all
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Who paid you to grab Dr. Pavel?
Thank you. I watched some of it on Comedy Central and did't laugh once. Maybe I saw a large unfunny chunk of it, but as of now I don't get the praise.The Jer said:
Jazzy Network
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Lol I can beat almost any tier 6 song on expert drums now and tried Everlong. Yea.....
JonathanEx
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You like Yaris.TheGreatDave said:I was wrong about you, your taste sucks after all
Your opinion means nothing.
Edit: except when something is a fact, like Cost's taste being shite
TheGreatDave
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JonathanEx said:
Solid gameplay.
JonathanEx
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What next, Rock Revolution's awfully bad undercharting and painful covers enhance your music experience playing it?!TheGreatDave said:
TheGreatDave
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JonathanEx said:
They didn't call it Rock Revolution because it marched to everyone elses' beat.
JonathanEx
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Next you're going to tell me there should be Guitar Hero: Katy Perry on disc without export so you can have a new career mode and achievements. You're killing me, man.TheGreatDave said:
TheGreatDave
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JonathanEx said:
I WOULD BUY A GUITAR HERO VERSION OF HER ALBUM FOR £30.
Seriously though, I still stand by previous statements that I'd buy I Kissed A Girl. I'd pay £5.
JonathanEx
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While you're at it, why not buy a Guitar Hero game with that on disc, but requires a £30 108kb key to unlock! There's a lot to learn from Scamco.TheGreatDave said:
Costanza said:
You have deep and serious problems. This is perhaps best expressed by the fact that only their worst movies have George Clooney (C) in them. Steve Buscemi (B) or John Goodman (G), however, typically signal their best work although their presence is not necessary, merely an indicator of quality.
We shall observe this in a list:
Awesome and I will hurt people who disagree(in reverse chronological order to avoid showing preference)
No Country for Old Men
The Man Who Wasn't There
The Big Lebowski (B, G)
Fargo (B)
The Hudsucker Proxy (B)
Barton Fink (B, G)
Miller's Crossing (B)
Raising Arizona (G)
Blood Simple
Amusing, but not awesome
O Brother, Where Art Thou? (G, C)
Tolerable, but really not very good and kind of a waste
Burn After Reading (C)
Rather bad
Intolerable Cruelty (C)
Here There Be Dragyns
The Ladykillers
Frances McDormand is not acceptable as a rating metric because of her noted issue of fucking the director to get the role. Dan Hedaya is awesome, but not relevant to rating. John Turturro is also quite awesome and might be useful... but has too much overlap in many cases with other established metrics. Bruce Campbell shows up in two of their films and makes them much more awesome as is his nature.
Their early collaboration with Sam Raimi "Crimewave" is probably best not watched. It is just... I didn't like it although it is established as a deeply dividing film.
TheGreatDave said:
It's a good movie. I was, however, quoting from the edited version which I hadn't seen, but was alerted to online... it is amusingly bad.
I suggest watching it through from the beginning or it will not work as well. The nature of the film as a comedic twist on their typical theme of various interpretations of film noir and specifically as basically a reworking of The Big Sleep is also highly amusing, but not at all necessary to appreciation.
Archie said:Why does Saints Row 2 have The Final Countdown and not Rock Band?
Because although it is completely awesome in every possible way it's largely on synth and, as such, would not really be good in the game.
TheGreatDave said:
But how much would you to pay to have her come to your home and kiss a girl of your choice? That is the relevant question.
TheGreatDave
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Belgand said:
Kiss? £10. Molest? Probably quite a bit more.
I'm going to put on the Big Lebowski....now. Wish me luck.
This is kind of amusing. The woman who got quite a bit of attention here for complaining about Fat Princess is now complaining about the Sarah Palin sex doll for being sexist. I'd already been anticipating this and was thus glad to see the "Head 'O State" Barack Obama dildo come to market as it clearly provides ample evidence that this is not just some sort of sexist thing where a woman cannot run for political office and be taken seriously, but that it comes from other places. The lack of a Hillary Clinton sex doll is also pretty telling, but again could be blamed for other social views on women (i.e. viewed as either a bitch or an idiot bimbo) so it's not as definitive.
I'd say the biggest reason is that most of the men in politics are not terribly attractive and the existing market for sex products isn't really designed to provide a product that would be able to use them. I mean, there aren't really a lot of male sex dolls out there and it's kind of hard to make a parody dildo. Obviously I wasn't thinking hard enough. Likewise most heterosexual porn is focused more on the women than the men so the chances of parody porn cropping up for a man is less likely. I'm sure there were a number of Clinton ones though, but then they more or less already had a script to work from.
Still, it's very interesting that one of the first results for "this is not palin sex doll" was her. Seems she likes getting worked up over things that everyone else finds amusing or enjoyable.
I'd say the biggest reason is that most of the men in politics are not terribly attractive and the existing market for sex products isn't really designed to provide a product that would be able to use them. I mean, there aren't really a lot of male sex dolls out there and it's kind of hard to make a parody dildo. Obviously I wasn't thinking hard enough. Likewise most heterosexual porn is focused more on the women than the men so the chances of parody porn cropping up for a man is less likely. I'm sure there were a number of Clinton ones though, but then they more or less already had a script to work from.
Still, it's very interesting that one of the first results for "this is not palin sex doll" was her. Seems she likes getting worked up over things that everyone else finds amusing or enjoyable.
BenjaminBirdie
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Belgand said:
I am so proud to have borne the thread that hosts such an awesome post.
Jazzy Network
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Fuck Perfect Insanity on expert drums. FUCK IT. I beat it. But fuck that last part. So stupid.
Fixed. It's mostly Goodman and Turturro, imo. Aside from Fargo, Buscemi is usually incidental.Belgand said:
And rearranged to show preference:
Awesome and I will hurt people who disagree
Miller's Crossing (T, B)
Barton Fink (T, G, B)
The Big Lebowski (G, B, T)
The Hudsucker Proxy (B)
Raising Arizona (G)
Fargo (B)
Blood Simple
No Country for Old Men
Amusing, but not awesome
O Brother, Where Art Thou? (C, T, G) [1]
Burn After Reading (C)
Tolerable, but really not very good and kind of a waste
The Ladykillers [2]
The Man Who Wasn't There [3]
Intolerable Cruelty
Intolerable Cruelty (C) [4]
comments:
1: The George "Babyface" Nelson character gets old
2: Moved up because Tom Hanks is actually quite good in this role, and like O Brother it references "Sullivan's Travels"
3: The final 1/4 drags it down a level or two
4: Relying on Cederic the Entertainer with a lame catchphrase for laughs is a career low for the Coens
TheGreatDave said:
But not only do you get to pick the girl (and ChapStick flavor), but this could well be not just some chaste little peck, but a full-on make-outy snog that lasts for a good five to ten minutes. Even if it doesn't move on to second base*.
Edit: I just noticed
TheGreatDave said:
So you'd pay 20 quid more for her album in Guitar Hero than you would to actually watch her almost assuredly sexy girl on girl antics? Man... you might have a problem here or something.
*Americans widely use a common baseball analogy for sexual relations that I find best described as "French. Fondle. Finger. Fuck". As it moves from first to second to third to home the erotic activity described moves progressively lower on the body. The placement of oral sex in the modern analogy is often an issue of contention with some considering it to be "home" others placing it as "second" and still others reformatting the entire analogy to basically move everything up one or so. I oppose this on alliterative grounds if for no other reason.
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xbhaskarx said:
I purposely chose not to rate their awesome movies because I didn't want to get into an argument right now over how great No Country for Old Men or Blood Simple are. I accept that they're all completely awesome and I can't order them because I love them all in different ways. I do not want to deal with a world where I have to decide, Sophie's Choice style whether I love Blood Simple or No Country for Old Men more. That way lies madness.
As we can observe on your chart John Turturro (T) is clearly not necessary as he is never seen in any film that does not feature John Goodman (G) or Steve Buscemi (B) while both of them appear in a greater number of awesome-level films. Yes, he's great in their movies, but regarding him as an additional indicator of quality is unnecessary. It does, however, speak to how great both Barton Fink and The Big Lebowski are.
Burn After Reading I could see putting in the same category as O Brother, but I felt that it was much flatter in general. It wasn't bad, it just wasn't very good and it needs to be dropped into it's own sort of purgatory for that.
I hate Tom Hanks. I have always hated Tom Hanks. I always will hate Tom Hanks. He is a crappy comedic actor and he does not deserve any success or acclaim for trying to become a mediocre and thoroughly unpleasant dramatic actor. People should just look at the screen and say "This is the same fuckglob that was in Turner and Hooch! I will not watch this crap!" and be done with it. He makes everything worse by his very nature.
The Man Who Wasn't There is given extra preference because of the gorgeous B&W cinematography and because the Coens are going back and giving us an almost straight noir film without their additional trappings and modifications like we see in Fargo (their third most noirish going by classical conventions). Yeah, Blood Simple gave us a straight noir done wonderfully as well, but this is also in period and has great performances. I like it, yet I will acknowledge that it is destined to be acknowledged as a minor work and is not entirely at the same level of their other great films. Still, screw you I loved it.
Ultimately your rating is interesting to me as it seems you prefer their widely-praised mid-period works (Barton Fink, Miller's Crossing), then their comedies, and lastly their more direct noirs. Interesting even if I disagree.
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