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TheGreatDave
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The Jer said:
It's $60 for Spirit of Radio. Bargain.
BobFromPikeCreek
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Main reason I want it, but I don't think Rock Band or GHWT drums work with the game, so fuggedaboudit. I'll get it in the bargain bin if SoR doesn't come as DLC.TheGreatDave said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvW-8u1hSvA <- Painkiller drums gold stars. 
TheGreatDave
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Konami has released screenshots where the drums only had 4 lanes. It works with the RB kit.
BobFromPikeCreek
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Well then. I guess I'll get it.
NameGenerated
Who paid you to grab Dr. Pavel?
Wow, there are so many double bass hits that they don't chart it's ridiculous. Still impressive though.Archie said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvW-8u1hSvA <- Painkiller drums gold stars.
firehawk12
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Still wondering if there's a way to play a single song in career mode... I don't mind the challenges, but not being able to play new DLC or whatever seems really stupid.
BobFromPikeCreek
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Painkiller is really easy outside of the intro, which is stupid hard.
Edit: Oh that final drum solo can also be a bitch.
Edit: Oh that final drum solo can also be a bitch.
Such a terrible song. Still amazing he can hold a combo through those tougher off beat rolls.Archie said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvW-8u1hSvA <- Painkiller drums gold stars.
NameGenerated
Who paid you to grab Dr. Pavel?
What?! I know you are just trying to start shit so I'll pretend you didn't say that.EazyB said:
firehawk12
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Struct09 said:
Honestly? I want the money for my characters. And, of course, there are just times where I just want to play a single song and it's annoying to have to go all the way back to the main menu to find it then to go all the way back into career mode after I finish the song.
I also want the score to count on the leaderboard. I'm not sure if that works in Quickplay in Rock Band 2? (Kind of annoying that they couldn't import your scores from RB1 to be honest).
BobFromPikeCreek
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Quickplay scores go to leaderboards.
While I do hate listening to such a painfully sung song, I realize that some people enjoy the feeling rusty pipes grinding against their inner-ear and I can respect that. So when I was saying it was terrible I meant that it is absolutely no fun to play on the drums.NameGenerated said:
Yeah, I'd like it if I could play a single song of my choice and get money for finishing it and not be penalized for restarting if I decide the run isn't going well. If only they could figure out a way, some type of mode, that would enable us to do this. Oh wait, that was the career mode on RB1...firehawk12 said:
(And on the last phrase, too).firehawk12
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EazyB said:Yeah, I'd like it if I could play a single song of my choice and get money for finishing it and not be penalized for restarting if I decide the run isn't going well. If only they could figure out a way, some type of mode, that would enable us to do this. Oh wait, that was the career mode on RB1...
That's the main reason why I want something like that not connected to the tour - you can't quit or restart a song without being penalized.
I do like the challenge mode, but I kind of wish there was a single song mode as well.
Someone suggested doing band quickplay with one player, so that at least you get to see your character on screen when you play... that's something I guess.
MikeE21286
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Anyone else using RB1 drums in RB2 having serious problems with dropped notes/missing notes?
I tried fixing it with the calibration tool (which is garbage) and it doesn't really change anything. I had no problems in RB1, just RB2. Could it be that the RB1 drums aren't really fully compatible with RB2?
I tried fixing it with the calibration tool (which is garbage) and it doesn't really change anything. I had no problems in RB1, just RB2. Could it be that the RB1 drums aren't really fully compatible with RB2?
BenjaminBirdie said:
This is all completely wrong. I really dislike all of those songs. In particular I hate "Freya", mainly to play because I found that when I listened to it later without having to play the dull, repetitive chugging it was kinda fun. What was unpleasant chug turned into a sort of driving, moshy feel. I still stand by my judgement and feel it was one of the absolute worst songs ever put in a rhythm game. Of course, I haven't been subjected to "Visions" yet.
ratcliffja said:
Goofy? I have no idea what you could mean by this. It's a pretty straightforward rock song. Is it coming from lack of understand of the lyrics because, again, if you know the subject matter they're pretty obvious as well. If not I can certainly understand the confusion. Goofy though? That just sticks with me for some reason because it doesn't seemingly make any sense or really describe anything specifically.
Motion Picture Soundtrack
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Does RB2 add drum solos to RB1 songs? (Won't Get Fooled Again)
But what's the alternative? If the original master for a song isn't available, and covers/re-records are not allowed, the song isn't going to be in Rock Band ever. For example, Ace of Spades. The master is at the very least unusable, and a cover would be pretty terrible. We get a re-record. Sure, it's not as good as the original master everyone's heard, but it's the best option out there, and I'd rather have the re-recording than nothing at all.Sp3eD said:
Sp3eD
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Duck said:
I'm pretty much looking straight in the eyes of Souls of Black. I would rather NOT have that song then the bastardized peice of shit we got.
Don't get me wrong there have been some really good re-records (Jimmy Buffett, Mighty Bosstones, Devo) and some alternates (Rush Vaults, Allman Brothers), but my opinion still stands that if they can't get the song close to what the album version sounds like, they might as well not even try. They are only going to alienate the fans that try to fake perform and fall flat on their face when it doesn't sound like what they have been listening to for years. That is the sole reason I hate Live versions with an absolute passion.
Sp3eD said:
While I can understand the sentiment here it also sounds a bit whiny. Do you complain when you go to see a band live because they're not playing it exactly like the album? Would you rather they just DJed their own albums instead? Artists continually perform their own music, this is, many would say, the essential nature of music. An album is simply a snapshot in time and while it has grown to become an important musical medium in it's own right live music is still, in many cases, where the truth of a band lies.
The fact that so many concert venues have absolutely terrible sound and many sound techs mix things horribly (how many concerts have you been to where you could ever make out the vocals to a song you don't already know by heart? how many where everything wasn't all muddily mashed together?) have hurt live music as well as ticket prices where you can't typically afford to go out and see new bands unless you already know them well in advance (hey, The Mother Hips sounded great in Rock Band, but I certainly don't have $22 to see them live). Neither, however, means that live music doesn't matter. With the changes happening in the industry it looks like live music is going to start becoming a lot more important to a lot of artists.
I still think Fugazi did it best: $10 albums, $5 shows (when possible, major cities would often run higher due to expenses). Don't try to screw over your audience (or both your audience and yourself get screwed by your label) in the pursuit of raking in as much money as possible and they'll make it work for you in the end.
Sp3eD said:
I can see your point, but it's up to personal opinion. In many cases the live versions are vastly superior. In the case of the Live at Leeds tracks it was a landmark album and many of the songs from it ("Summertime Blues", "Young Man Blues") are only on that album because they're covers that were played live.
How about using the incredibly flat version of "I Want You To Want Me" on In Color compared to the well-known and excellent live version from At Budokan? It seems that part of your point is that you feel the most well-known version of a song ought to be used, but what about when that version is live.
I'd also counter that as the game is trying to simulate a live experience should the songs in the game be about you trying to simulate simulating a studio experience?
I don't necessarily want every track to be live, but if they're good tracks I love them just as much and sometimes much more.
MikeE21286
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same here......I guess my set must be going? Wouldn't be the first time.Struct09 said:
BobFromPikeCreek
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You're lucky. I've gone through about 5 sets. I keep sending them garbage and they keep sending me garbage.Struct09 said:
I'm currently going through RB1 and and the song list is pretty good but I don't think it comes anywhere near GH3. It may just be my preference since I'm into metal but a lot of the songs in RB1 are just not fun to play on guitar. Too many of them are massive one note/chord strumfests.
My other problem is that the jump in difficulty from normal to hard is atrocious as usual. The game is either too easy on medium or too hard on hard for me. There's no middle ground and that's always my problem with GH/RB in general. The fifth fret button is hard to deal with as it is and in addition they throw so many more notes at you. In my opinion, there should be a difficulty between medium and hard where the number of notes/chords that you're strumming is somewhere between medium and hard but with the fifth fret included.
Also, if we're talking about music taste (especially when it comes to metal/rock), as much as I hate to admit it, Neversoft seems to pick the better songs. Just look at the Dream Theater tracks in RB1 and RB2: Constant Motion and Panic Attack? WTF? And then look at the Dream Theater track in GHWT: Pull Me Under. It's Pull Me fucking Under, FFS. It is *the* classic and fan favourite DT song. No DT fan will ever list Panic Attack or Constant Motion as their favourite DT track, unlike Pull Me Under.
My other problem is that the jump in difficulty from normal to hard is atrocious as usual. The game is either too easy on medium or too hard on hard for me. There's no middle ground and that's always my problem with GH/RB in general. The fifth fret button is hard to deal with as it is and in addition they throw so many more notes at you. In my opinion, there should be a difficulty between medium and hard where the number of notes/chords that you're strumming is somewhere between medium and hard but with the fifth fret included.
Also, if we're talking about music taste (especially when it comes to metal/rock), as much as I hate to admit it, Neversoft seems to pick the better songs. Just look at the Dream Theater tracks in RB1 and RB2: Constant Motion and Panic Attack? WTF? And then look at the Dream Theater track in GHWT: Pull Me Under. It's Pull Me fucking Under, FFS. It is *the* classic and fan favourite DT song. No DT fan will ever list Panic Attack or Constant Motion as their favourite DT track, unlike Pull Me Under.
ElyrionX said:
I actually found Rock Band to be the best way to finally work my way into playing on hard. I had started in GH2 but didn't quite have it down yet, and GH3 was terrible with difficulty progression, but I was able to finally fully switch over to Hard with RB1. They've toned it up a bit in RB2, but now that I got a good feel for it, I'm quite solid at playing on hard. The trick isn't really much a problem with the game, so much as it is just getting used to moving up and down the frets.
I fully agree with this. The game is about putting on a show, not delivering perfect tracks in a studio. Heck, I didn't even mind the cover tracks in the GH series, simply because the game seems to be about you becoming the world's greatest cover band.Belgand said:
So far, I'd say the live tracks are better than studio, with the possible exception lying with the vocal parts. Then again, I'm not thrilled with how the vocals are done in the game.
Really? Pull Me Under the fan favorite? Their radio-friendly, non-threatening, easily-accessible rock song? Public favorite, maybe, but fan favorite? Granted I wouldn't call Panic Attack or Constant Motion their best, but at least one of them is better than Pull Me Under. Unless you're MTV.ElyrionX said:
ratcliffja
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Belgand said:
It sounds fairly awful for one. The rhythm never feels right and the guitar is just wonky. I kept waiting for it to grow on me, but it never has.
AMUSIX said:
Well, when Dream Theater played live in my country for the very first time (2005 I think), Pull Me Under came up as an encore and James La Brie went, "You all like this one, don't you?" and the crowd went crazy. If that's not a clear sign that it's a fan favourite, I don't know what is. Even the band acknowledges it.
Maybe if you only became a fan of Dream Theater after listening to their heavy albums (Train of Thought, etc) then you would prefer Panic Attack and Constant Motion to Pull Me Under. However, most DT fans are actually bigger fans of their original progressive music found in the Images and Word, Awake and Scenes From A Memory albums and I would dare say that a majority of DT fans would prefer Pull Me Under to Constant Motion or Panic Attack.
Actually, that's more a sign of a public favorite, not fan favorite. I agree that fans would prefer their earlier work, but so rarely is a band's hit single the fan favorite. It just means that it's more appealing to a broader audience.ElyrionX said:
Easy examples of this are "More Than Words" by Extreme, "Unforgiven" by Metallica, and "Fly" by Sugar Ray. All of them hugely popular, none of them a fan favorite.
Oh, and I agree that their better work is their earlier stuff. Awake being their strongest album, and Change of Seasons being their most skillful work.
AMUSIX said:
Why would people pay a shitload of money to see a band that they're not a fan of? When they played here, their tickets weren't cheap at all and metal isn't even a very popular or accepted genre of music in my country as well. People who went to see them were definitely fans, not the "public".
BobFromPikeCreek
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ElyrionX said:
:lol :lol :lol :lol It's a concert. He could have said "You all like getting kicked in the balls, don't you?" and people would have still gone apeshit.
I wouldn't list any of those as my favorite DT song. But, I think Constant Motion is a way better song than Pull Me Under.ElyrionX said:
I love Pull Me Under (well, I love all DT songs), but it actually wouldn't fit into my top ten DT songs (and neither would Panic Attack or Constant Motion); still an awesome song.
I think Constant Motion is a better pick than Pull Me Under is a better pick than Panic Attack. But, it's all pretty close. I don't think one is clearly a better pick than another, in this case.
Scenes From a Memory was their fifth album. I'm not sure that counts as one of there more original albums at that point (The Dance of Eternity is awesome, btw).ElyrionX said:
And I'm "one those where" Train of Thought is my favorite album (by far, and my all time favorite album from any band).
ElyrionX said:
I was going to make the same point. Pull Me Under may well be a crowd/fan favorite. And the band might well think so. But, that is far from a "clear sign." It was an encore, the crowd was pumped, the band was pumped. Of course the crowd would go nuts and of course the band would say that. It's far from a "clear sign"BobFromPikeCreek said:
The Jer said:
I guess it's all just a matter of opinions.
Anyway, yes I know Scenes is not an "early" album. However, I listed it because that was probably the last album many DT fans liked and probably the last album containing their early progressive sound. A lot of DT fans didn't like the direction the band went in after SFAM though I would say Systematic Chaos (with Ministry of Lost Souls and In The Presence of Enemies) is sort of a return to that classic DT progressive sound.
Back from a party. 5 straight hours of Rock Band 2. We only need the No-Fail mode 3 times all night. Most of it was just a confidence booster.
Saw crazy stuff, like a girl playing in high heels on drums on expert. Jesus christ.
Fatal1ty played bass, nothing amazing.
Also, before I went in a guy stopped me on the street and asked for the directions to Skid Row and proceeded to hug me. He seemed cool, but at the time, hearing "Do you know which is the way to Skid Row?" as he lunges toward me with arms wide open makes me think I'm getting fucking stabbed.
Saw crazy stuff, like a girl playing in high heels on drums on expert. Jesus christ.
Fatal1ty played bass, nothing amazing.
Also, before I went in a guy stopped me on the street and asked for the directions to Skid Row and proceeded to hug me. He seemed cool, but at the time, hearing "Do you know which is the way to Skid Row?" as he lunges toward me with arms wide open makes me think I'm getting fucking stabbed.
ya. I don't think DT is an easy example to use because they have so many amazing songs that you would get a huge spread and variety of answers if you asked fans what there favorite songs were. If you were to take a poll of favorite DT songs, I don't think anyone song would stand out relative to others, simply because of the large amount of great songs, none of which are distinctively greater than others. I think a similar thing would happen with Metallica.
Anyhoo, it is certainly noticeable that RB tends to feature songs from brand new albums much more than GH, which tends to feature the best overall song from both past and present. Probably a lot of that MTV influence trying to promote new songs/albums.
On a related note: DT has sense of humor about Pull Me Under being their only top 10 hit. One of their latest albums was titled "Dream Theater's Greatest Hit (and 21 Other Pretty Cool Songs)"
Anyhoo, it is certainly noticeable that RB tends to feature songs from brand new albums much more than GH, which tends to feature the best overall song from both past and present. Probably a lot of that MTV influence trying to promote new songs/albums.
On a related note: DT has sense of humor about Pull Me Under being their only top 10 hit. One of their latest albums was titled "Dream Theater's Greatest Hit (and 21 Other Pretty Cool Songs)"
firehawk12
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I think I'm going crazy here. I got a song that was sung by a guy but the track title had in brackets "(Paramore test recording)". Has anyone seen that in there game? I've been looking for it in the set list but I can't find it.
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