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Baker said:
I was going to say that last night but figured people would yell at me.
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It's not really much more work if you think about it. It's just the notes ... there isn't any adjusting for a 5 button plastar. They were already doing to for drums anyway.
 
McBradders said:
No confirmation of Ions working on Pro? Anybody?

Don't wanna lay down that money without knowing I can go pro day 1.
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Isn't the brain a midi unit? If so, shouldn't you only need the midi box? /knows nothing about the ion kit
 
BigBlackGamer said:
It's a lame feature that nobody ever uses. I had 3 friends over who are all expert guitar players and everytime they play GH they always go guitar, bass, drums.

It's the lamest shit ever to have the same instruments playing.
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So true. If you have the same people playing the same guitar track you might as well be playing along to an mp3 or a youtube video. Part of the whole concept of these games is the simulation that you're making music as a band and when you "play" the instrument, you hear it, when you don't play or miss, you don't. That's why they need separtaed tracks.

Not to mention that concept is only there to appease the selfish kids who play GH and don't get the idea of working together as a band. That's fine for a score attack mode, but it does not belong at all in any of the band modes. Shame on HMX if they allow this. I'm not believing it until someone other than IGN reports it.
 
2&2 said:
So true. If you have the same people playing the same guitar track you might as well be playing along to an mp3 or a youtube video. Part of the whole concept of these games is the simulation that you're making music as a band and when you "play" the instrument, you hear it, when you don't play or miss, you don't. That's why they need separtaed tracks.

Not to mention that concept is only there to appease the selfish kids who play GH and don't get the idea of working together as a band. That's fine for a score attack mode, but it does not belong at all in any of the band modes. Shame on HMX if they allow this. I'm not believing it until someone other than IGN reports it.
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100% disagree at least in a two person setting. I only like guitar and the occasional vocal on songs I like. My buddy is only comfortable playing medium guitar. I'm not going to play bass all night just to appease someone else.

I do agree in a full band setting, although I wouldn't care if two people were doing the same thing. Four of anything is just stupid overkill.

Edit: We have only done the guitar/guitar thing once because face it, no one plays GH in any kind of party setting. In RB, we just switch between vocals and guitar. Singer picks three songs, repeat until I pass out.
 
Cahill said:
I do have a couple concerns about pro mode on guitar.

Tuning - kinda going into what Baker said, how are they going to handle alternate tunings such as drop d or drop c where chords are barred instead of fretted as standard power chords? It will sound horrible on the realtar.
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Good point. For pro mode, I so no issue with having people retune if the song demands it. Where it would really become and issue is the occasional song that has more than one guitar part - with different tunings. Obviously that would be fubar.

Also, for solos and complex guitar parts it's VERY difficult to not look at your guitar at all. While Pro mode will surely be a great tool to help you learn to feel the fretboard better, how the hell are you going to follow fast solos and not look at the guitar?
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Errr ... how does one learn to play a solo on a real guitar using tab?
 
McBradders said:
Also; will my swanky real pedal work on them?
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If you have a real bass pedal you will need a kick trigger from an ekit and a kickbox.

Baker said:
On the off-chance that the engine can't differentiate between the pads and cymbals on ions.
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It interfaces the same way as the RB2 kit with cymbal add ons.
 
Um, does this mean Beatles in RB3?

You mentioned before about importing, that all the DLC will import fine and most of the songs on the disc will import fine. Is that process the same as it was from Rock Band 2 to Rock Band 1 -- are you going to be buying a $5 license? Is that process built in now? It seems with Rock Band 2, you were sort of figuring out as you went along, and with Rock Band 3 you've been able to plan for this type of functionality a little better.

From a software side, it's pretty well understood, but there's a lot of paperwork behind it that we're actually still trying to hash out.

The goal would be, I'm assuming, that Rock Band 3's the only disc you need to keep around ...

We're designing Rock Band 3 to be the library that holds all of your content in the Rock Band space. That is our ambition.
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http://www.joystiq.com/2010/06/11/interview-harmonixs-daniel-sussman-on-rock-band-3s-new-tune/


Feel free to mock if already discussed.
 
I think that the fact that TB:RB underperformed can only help the cause of exporting to RB3. They can go back and say, it didn't do well but we can make an extra $10 per import, how bout it?
 
Space Cadet said:
The DLC situation moving forward is disheartening for the casuals, but as I will buy RB3 I am okay with it. Incoming $3 songs on the HMX store, though.
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While it is a bit disheartening, I also think asking people to purchase a 2nd disc after several years isn't exactly milking either.
 
Raistlin said:
While it is a bit disheartening, I also think asking people to purchase a 2nd disc after several years isn't example milking either.
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This will be like GH1 all over again. Once people see it played, they'll rush out and buy their own copy.
 
GM Bullfrog said:
I think that the fact that TB:RB underperformed can only help the cause of exporting to RB3. They can go back and say, it didn't do well but we can make an extra $10 per import, how bout it?
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I really can't see how they won't do something with the Beatles and the keyboard. How couldn't they?

I'd rather have them not re-release a new edition of Beatles Rock Band or some type of DLC.
 
GM Bullfrog said:
I think that the fact that TB:RB underperformed can only help the cause of exporting to RB3. They can go back and say, it didn't do well but we can make an extra $10 per import, how bout it?
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Beatles people would probably never allow it.
 
Cahill said:
Yeah, like I said, I'm wondering how they're going to handle the tuning issue. Also, a minor issue in the scope of things, but those guitars don't have 24 frets... they fail.

In before everyone gives a list of guitarists that use Fenders
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I use a Fender, so fuck you buddy.

Clapton > all. KNOW YOUR PLACE!
 
McBradders said:
Dude, in English? I have a pedal that works with my shitty RB1 kit, that won't work? :/
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Oh, that pedal ... I thought you meant a REAL one ... LOL. No that will not work. The Ions comes with a pedal, but it is merely a Hi-Hat pedal. If you get the Ions you will def want to invest in a better one. There are a couple routes you can go. The plug an play options are the Destroyer (which I think BBG has) or the Omega (which I think Pedro has).

http://www.rockbandparts.com/drum_parts_pedals.html

Or you could go all out and buy a real bass pedal, a kick trigger like a yamaha or a roland and then use a kickbox (to convert the analog signal). It would be more expensive though. However, if you ever decided to turn it into a real ekit all you would need is a brain at that point.
 
GM Bullfrog said:
It's not really much more work if you think about it. It's just the notes ... there isn't any adjusting for a 5 button plastar. They were already doing to for drums anyway.
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They need to make 2 charts for 4 instruments. I think that's the perfect excuse for them to pump up the price.
 
Raistlin said:
Errr ... how does one learn to play a solo on a real guitar using tab?
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Look at the tab of course... play it, look at it, play along etc. eventually it's memorized. But really, I think it's different to have the stuff scrolling down the screen and vanishing. Especially trying to follow along and keep up realtime w/ out looking down. Most people start off playing difficult passages slowly on their own (I know I do) and build up to speed. Your normal guitar players aren't just going to look at a tab sheet and blast through some crazy guitar part real-time w/ out looking at their hands. They'll end up being sloppy as shit and all over the place.

I just think it's going to be difficult and is going to take a lot of practice to get used to (yeah, yeah, like real guitar). Hope you get what I'm saying.
 
My sister isn't having a dj at her reception and she just mentioned setting up RB if the mp3 player route gets lame. Sweeeeeet.

I can't tell if she's joking or not, so I'm going to pretend it's real for now.
 
I had a thought earlier regarding the whole new thread or not discussion. Why wouldn't we have Shag create a new thread so he would have the ability to update the OP as needed and then just merge this thread into that one? Would that work? Or when merging threads does it reorder everything by date?
 
GM Bullfrog said:
I had a thought earlier regarding the whole new thread or not discussion. Why wouldn't we have Shag create a new thread so he would have the ability to update the OP as needed and then just merge this thread into that one? Would that work? Or when merging threads does it reorder everything by date?
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They can merge the thread fine. However, Archie has to manually read through every post and remove all off topic comments first.
 
McBradders said:
Dude, in English? I have a pedal that works with my shitty RB1 kit, that won't work? :/
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If you have an aftermarket pedal, it will work with the Ion, but you will need a 1/8" to 1/4" headphone jack style adapter to plug it into the Ion controller.

I use the Rock Pedal with a practice pad and it works great with the Ion...
 
What was Jimmy Page's exact reason for saying no to rhythm games? I know Prince wanted people to play the real guitar, so maybe RB3 has swayed his opinion.

Also, I hope RB3 has a free form mode for realtar ala the drums in RB2.
 
GM Bullfrog said:
Oh, that pedal ... I thought you meant a REAL one ... LOL. No that will not work. The Ions comes with a pedal, but it is merely a Hi-Hat pedal. If you get the Ions you will def want to invest in a better one. There are a couple routes you can go. The plug an play options are the Destroyer (which I think BBG has) or the Omega (which I think Pedro has).

http://www.rockbandparts.com/drum_parts_pedals.html

Or you could go all out and buy a real bass pedal, a kick trigger like a yamaha or a roland and then use a kickbox (to convert the analog signal). It would be more expensive though. However, if you ever decided to turn it into a real ekit all you would need is a brain at that point.
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I have this one http://www.rockbandparts.com/rock_pedal.html
 
Archie said:
What was Jimmy Page's exact reason for saying no to rhythm games? I know Prince wanted people to play the real guitar, so maybe RB3 has swayed his opinion.

Also, I hope RB3 has a free form mode for realtar ala the drums in RB2.
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It was on those same lines, though his most recent statement suggested that he doesn't mind them so much. He probably saw was Macca and Ringo were making off of TB:RB and had an abrupt change of heart. :lol
 
Archie said:
Also, I hope RB3 has a free form mode for realtar ala the drums in RB2.
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That saves the notes and has its own effects set. I could finally get back into writing my own songs since I sold my 4-track ten years ago.

*Yeah yeah I'm sure there's some stupid $5 dongle I could get to do it on my computer.
 
Does Page have the masters locked up in his garage or something? I'm sure if Paul and Ringo were fine with their masters being handled, then Page shouldn't care THAT much.
 
Milchmonster said:
Page's main problem is that HMX needs the masters. He probably wouldn't give them to the rock god.
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I'd be really surprised if this was the main issue, seeing as how Apple handled all of the Beatles masters themselves.

$$$
 
Ridley327 said:
I'd be really surprised if this was the main issue, seeing as how Apple handled all of the Beatles masters themselves.

$$$
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Yep. I do recall reading a while ago that was his first "issue" and then there was the whole " you need to learn to play LZ on real instruments" thing. At this point it is simply about the benjamins.
 
GM Bullfrog said:
Then all you need is the 1/8" to 1/4" adapter cable.
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DOUBLE SEX.

Now, to relate my plan to the girlfriend. Drums in exchange for...


THIS

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