Rockstar Games Announces PSP Handheld Entertainment System Lineup

I thought PSP was not very good with free roaming games right now. It´s possible for a company that is not very experienced in 3D to this with guarantees and so limited time?

Well, I will love if they can done it properly. GTA style games are among the type of games I would like to play in the go.
 
Mzo said:
At least change your posts a little when you bring them over to TNL, you unoriginal bastard.

Do you want me to compare you to isamu? Is that what you want?
But when I bring them to TNL, I'm doing TNL a service. :)


;_;



I'll IM you tonight. ;_;
 
Gaijin To Ronin said:
I thought PSP was not very good with free roaming games right now. It´s possible for a company that is not very experienced in 3D to this with guarantees and so limited time?

Well, I will love if they can done it properly. GTA style games are among the type of games I would like to play in the go.

Not experienced in 3D? How's that?
 
It´s developed by Rockstar Leeds isn´t? according to Jarrod list:

Game Boy Advance
-A Sound of Thunder
-American Idol
-Army Men: Turf War
-Bionicle: The Game
-Drome Racers
-High Heat Major League Baseball 2002
-High Heat Major League Baseball 2003
-High Heat Major League Baseball 2004
-Max Payne

Game Boy Color
-Alfred's Adventure
-High Heat Major League Baseball 2002

PlayStation 2
-Titanium Angels

I know that Max Payne GBA is pretty advanced, but there is a huge jump between the two systems and this project seems to need some very experienced developers while this developers have worked mostly in GBA games. I have some reasonable doubts about if they can do it properly.

I really hope they can.
 
Gaijin To Ronin said:
It´s developed by Rockstar Leeds isn´t? according to Jarrod list:

Game Boy Advance
-A Sound of Thunder
-American Idol
-Army Men: Turf War
-Bionicle: The Game
-Drome Racers
-High Heat Major League Baseball 2002
-High Heat Major League Baseball 2003
-High Heat Major League Baseball 2004
-Max Payne

Game Boy Color
-Alfred's Adventure
-High Heat Major League Baseball 2002

PlayStation 2
-Titanium Angels

I know that Max Payne GBA is pretty advanced, but there is a huge jump between the two systems and this project seems to need some very experienced developers while this developers have worked mostly in GBA games. I have some reasonable doubts about if they can do it properly.

I really hope they can.

I see, but I'm sure the other R* branches wont let them release a pile of shite...hoping anyway hehe.
 
This is really beginning to look like PS2 all over again. I don't know why people continually doubt the ability of Sony and the industry to grow the libraries of Playstation consoles. The PSP getting excellent software support is as much of a no-brainer as it was for PS2, and will be for PS3. That's the key to them being #1.
 
There's that battery life issue thing w/ heavy optical disc usage. GTA III and onward stream data constantly for landscape and textures.

That's a lot of drain on the batteries.
 
mashoutposse said:
This is really beginning to look like PS2 all over again. I don't know why people continually doubt the ability of Sony and the industry to grow the libraries of Playstation consoles. .


There's no doubt about the ability to grow a library. There's a question of marketing when you have an (as yet) untapped resource (the older handheld gamer) and software that already doesn't sell on wildly successful handheld hardware. (the GBA)

The PSP will have the games, but you can't expect every one of them to sell, or even all of the big budget ones to sell. It will have to be something truly compelling, like this for instance.
 
sp0rsk said:
guys think about it for a second

if i came in and said "OMG XBOX 2 115 DOLLARS WITH HALO 3 AT LAUNCH" and then halo 3 was announced for the xbox 2 launch, would that make me right? or a lucky guesser?

How can guessing that sonys biggest franchise is coming out on their new system confirm anything? shouldnt this have been obvious from the beginning?


We'll see. But it looks like you want to take the glass half empty stance on this issue. Give the guy his due I didn't see anyone else say a GTA PSP game would come out at launch. He was very specific on how he worded things and was right on the money. Now we'll see if the price point pans out.

NA PSP launch is going to be stacked. I think this is easily going to go down as the best launch lineup of any system. Amazing.


The more I think about it, the more the $129-$149 launch price seems likely. With the amazing wealth of titles going to be available at PSP launch, the hardware price can't be too high as Sony will want tons of software to be sold with the hardware.
 
this spring?!?

There's going to be a severe ass-raping going around if this launches close to PSP's release at the rumored $129 price.

better get cracking on that pokemon ds title, Nintendo.
 
TekunoRobby said:
Well the $300 + price was a result of people not assuming Sony would take such a ridiculous hit in price in order to sell the system (in retrospect, they absolutely had to).
The only thing we know in retrospect right now is that ebayers and importers are making a killing on massive markups for the PSP right now and Sony is selling just about every one they're making right now, which hasn't been that many. That doesn't exactly tell me they had to price it like they did.
 
Speevy said:
There's no doubt about the ability to grow a library. There's a question of marketing when you have an (as yet) untapped resource (the older handheld gamer) and software that already doesn't sell on wildly successful handheld hardware. (the GBA)

The PSP will have the games, but you can't expect every one of them to sell, or even all of the big budget ones to sell. It will have to be something truly compelling, like this for instance.

While the PSP definitely appeals to the older audience, if you don't think that kids will go crazy over the current PSP titles, then you're out of touch with the kids of today. We might be the ones talking about how Nintendo is "kiddy" and all, but the truth is the nowadays because of the media exposure and marketing, games like NFS, GTA, FPS games and other PS2 franchise 3D offerings appeal MUCH MORE to kids than Nintendo games.
 
DaCocoBrova said:
There's that battery life issue thing w/ heavy optical disc usage. GTA III and onward stream data constantly for landscape and textures.

That's a lot of drain on the batteries.
It's been pointed out on a couple of occasions that Ridge Racers keeps the disc spinning almost constantly for music, and that game is still managing 4+ hrs of battery life for most PSP owners.
 
The only thing I hope is that this is a SIGNIFICANTLY different game. I've already spent 100's of hours on GTA 3 and if it's merely a retread with slightly different content, I have little interest. Also, they've already sold 12 Million copies of GTA 3, so I don't know how well a repack will do.

Given the development time, my hopes aren't that high.
 
Speevy said:
and software that already doesn't sell on wildly successful handheld hardware. (the GBA)

The GBA versions are not comparable to their PSP counterparts. It is expected that the leap in graphics, sound, and control will bring a level of "credibility" to console-to-PSP conversions, which will result in much better sales.

Slightly off topic, but I think the sports genre in particular will benefit from this. EA Sports will make a killing on PSP.

The PSP will have the games, but you can't expect every one of them to sell, or even all of the big budget ones to sell. It will have to be something truly compelling, like this for instance.

You can adapt that statement to accurately describe the situations of all consoles.
 
I also find that $129 price hard to believe but I'm sure the Nintendo DS will quickly drop in price when the PSP is released to try and steal some of its thunder.
 
SantaCruZer said:
It sure looks pretty bad for Nintendo. Sony is going in full steam now. But we'll see.

I wouldn't say it looks bad for Nintendo but when going after a virtual monopoly there is only one way to do it; "full steam" as you say. Why hold back at all? :)
 
GamerDiva said:
I wouldn't say it looks bad for Nintendo but when going after a virtual monopoly there is only one way to do it; "full steam" as you say. Why hold back at all? :)

Yeah, right now it doesn't look bad for nintendo. NDS is selling well, but we'll see what happens when sony enters the US market. A $129 PSP would put a lot of pressure on them for sure.
 
SantaCruZer said:
Yeah, right now it doesn't look bad for nintendo. NDS is selling well, but we'll see what happens when sony enters the US market. A $129 PSP would put a lot of pressure on them for sure.

Well I'm sure Nintendo could drop to $99 at that point in time if they chose to and especially if the PSP does indeed launch at $129.
 
mashoutposse said:
There is absolutely no way that the PSP will launch lower than DS. It's just not necessary.

I would agree. At best they'll match the DS selling price and leave the ball in Nintendo's court.
 
Wow! This is HUUUUUUGE! It was deinitely coming, but this soon? It's gonna look close to the PS2 version, and it's still a very hot franchise (getting close to saturation though IMO). This is the first major salvo being fired here. Sony skipped the warning shots and looks like they want to sink Nintendo's battleship right out the gate. This is crazy.

And it's fine harboring skepticism in this day and age of internet rumor-mongering, but that guy was very confident in his post, and no one would have expected him to be right about GTA at/near launch. How do you keep such a project under wraps? Hell, why do you keep something that big under wraps? It's easy hype. Well, he wa right about that, and seems confident on the price too. I'm starting to believe. I'm skeptical, but my skepticism now lands squarely at $150, I'm gonna disregard $180 from now on. A PSP at $130-150 *faints*. I will buy one at launch for that price. I will definitely get one for GTA. That, GT4, Lumines, FIFA, NBA Street....*drool*. Should they hold firm to that schedule, this could be one of the best launches ever IMO. Oh baby! PSP just became a definite buy for the first half of the year. No need to wait anymore. PEACE.
 
How many bloody games are there going to be for the Western launch!? It seems like there are hundreds of the fuckers.

Will there be any left for the rest of the year?
 
mrklaw said:
How many bloody games are there going to be for the Western launch!? It seems like there are hundreds of the fuckers.

Will there be any left for the rest of the year?

Well, people have always complained about Sony having weak launches. I guess this is their response. :P Could this be a sign of what we can expect from the PS3 launch also?
 
The press release says "near" launch, not at launch. That could mean anything from days to weeks, maybe even a couple of months after.
 
I wonder if this will be just a super upgraded new 2D version of GTA? Does the press release specifically say it'll be 3D?

I guess it's logical to assume, but eh. Anyway, I can't wait 'til we start getting pics of this bad boy.
 
Amir0x said:
I wonder if this will be just a super upgraded new 2D version of GTA? Does the press release specifically say it'll be 3D?

I think Rockstar knows a 2D GTA would simply be a waste of development time for them. The series took off when it went 3D, that's the only way this game is going to do anything in terms of sales.
 
kaching said:
The press release says "near" launch, not at launch. That could mean anything from days to weeks, maybe even a couple of months after.

Yeah, and it says "this spring" too, which technically could be any time between March 21st and June 21st. Roughly. I'd be surprised if this made it for the PSP launch, but it'll still arrive plenty early to make an impact, and if they pump up the PR on this one, it'll sell PSP's at launch just so players will have them in the their hands when the game does ship.
 
Andy787 said:
Doesn't the PSP have the same amount of memory as the PS2?

That is a lie... well... a slight alteration of the truth.

It has 32 MB of DDR SDRAM for main RAM and 2 MB of Media Engine e-DRAM + 2 MB of VRAM, but the main RAM has only 24 MB of RAM dedicated to games/applications.

Yes, the XMB GUI and the XMB PSP OS are taking 8 MB of RAM away for themselves: no wonder how the XMB GUI is so fast and smooth :).
 
They'll have to scale back something the current GTA games barely runs on a PS2.

Maybe they'll do a 3D overhead view with zoomed in camera like that dungeon hack game.
 
Kung Fu Jedi said:
Yeah, and it says "this spring" too, which technically could be any time between March 21st and June 21st. Roughly. I'd be surprised if this made it for the PSP launch, but it'll still arrive plenty early to make an impact, and if they pump up the PR on this one, it'll sell PSP's at launch just so players will have them in the their hands when the game does ship.
I was mostly addressing Mrklaw who seemed concerned about a stacked launch with a major lull of good titles after that.
 
seismologist said:
They'll have to scale back something the current GTA games barely runs on a PS2.

Yeah.... right... which is why we saw quite big technical leaps going from GTA III to GTA: Vice City to GTA: San Andreas ;).
 
Panajev2001a said:
Yeah.... right... which is why we saw quite big technical leaps going from GTA III to GTA: Vice City to GTA: San Andreas ;).

Well to be fair the only one I played on the PS2 was the first GTA. It's running at about 20fps.
 
seismologist said:
They'll have to scale back something the current GTA games barely runs on a PS2.

Maybe they'll do a 3D overhead view with zoomed in camera like that dungeon hack game.

Yeah, it barely runs all the way to the cash register for Sony and Rock Star. GTA runs very well on the PS2 and should run well on a PSP with some creative programming, good use of the system, and a little innovation.
 
seismologist said:
Well to be fair the only one I played on the PS2 was the first GTA. It's running at about 20fps.


Maybe you should try to say stuff like this initially instead of blindly hoping that as the developers got to know the hardware more they would become more inept at programming for it
 
seismologist said:
Well to be fair the only one I played on the PS2 was the first GTA. It's running at about 20fps.

How you avoid a permaban with your constant stream of pure BS is truly amazing. Somebody upstairs must like you.
 
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