GHG
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They don't have Xbox branding though, so it's impossible for them to be better.
ROG Xbox Ally X - Reviews Thread
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They don't have Xbox branding though, so it's impossible for them to be better.
Gamer_By_Proxy
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Baemono
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I don't understand why Microsoft didn't go with the Sony route by releasing a PS Portal-like device with Xbox controller grip which would allow you to do remote play + cloud access to Game Pass games, since now you don't even need a subscription to access your owned games through the cloud, for $200
TDiddyLive
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Because there are already a million different devices that can do that. They even licensed the Backbone controllers to do exactly that on cell phones.
Thebonehead
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Baemono
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They have a million devices that does exactly the same thing as the Rog Ally X, just to name one: the Rog Ally, and yet they released one anyway.
And using your smartphone for gaming isn't the same experience. That's something Microsoft never understood.
GHG
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TDiddyLive
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Sure, there's a bunch of portable PCs. And Microsoft teamed up with ASUS to try and refine it. If it's a miss, no big deal, ASUS pretty much takes the hit. Plus it's being used to display Microsoft's attempt for future gaming on portable PCs outside of their branded ones.
Not sure what the difference of a dedicated streaming device vs a cell phone with dedicated controls for streaming would be other than a slightly bigger screen. The Backbone controller is expensive at $110. A dedicated device would be about $200. That $90 savings is because you likely already have a phone that does a million other things. The dedicated device will likely have a larger screen that is lower quality and can't do anything else. Doesn't seem ideal to me.
Baemono
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You should try it then, it's night and day. I tried both, the Portal provides a way better gaming experience than the backbone.
Mister Wolf
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TDiddyLive
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I'll default to your experience on that one. I only stream when traveling.
A big reason I bought the ROG Xbox Ally X was that I'm not a huge fan of streaming. I've tried it on occasion but prefer playing a game directly from the device. I only brought up the Backbone because I know someone that has one and loves it. I'm sure there are cheaper options out there. If I'm traveling I take my iPad and an Xbox controller and stream from my hotel. Now that's getting replaced with this new device.
Tobimacoss
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8 AI+ has an NPU similar to the Xbox Ally X, but I think the Z2X AI still edges it out in overall performance.
Legion Go 2 only has the Z2X, not the Z2X AI with the NPU.
The GPD Win 5 has no internal battery. I don't count that as a viable handheld.
Gotta wait and see if AutoSR makes a difference in performance. But MSI 8 AI+ and Xbox Ally X are currently the only two mainstream handhelds with an NPU needed for AutoSR.
Topher
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Forgot about the GPD 5 not having a battery so yeah, I'd eliminate that one as well.
Performance is only one factor, as I pointed out. I went from a 7" Rog Ally X to an 8" Lenovo Legion Go S and I'm not going back to smaller screens.
SomeNorseGuy
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Russ does excellent handheld reviews.
Mister Wolf
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Will Microsoft even allow Auto SR on the MSI Claw? Is it as simple as if it works on the Xbox ROG Ally X then it will work on the Claw, or would Microsoft have to do extra work? They are partnered with ASUS and stand to gain from the Xbox branded device having exclusive features from them.
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Topher
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It is a Windows feature. It is already enabled for some Snapdragon devices. When it is enabled for other Windows devices I would expect it to be available with any that have dedicated NPU hardware.
Mister Wolf
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The Claw A.I released all the way back in January. It should have been had Auto SR available to it if Microsoft really wanted. Why didn't they? Do you think that was just an oversight or intentional?
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Topher
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Rog Xbox Ally X doesn't even have auto sr yet. Microsoft said it would be the "first" handheld to have it which implies others will as well. Even then, since it is a Windows feature, I bet it will take a simple hack to enable it on everything else just like it has been with FSE
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Mister Wolf
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Hopefully they can reduce the latency for using it even further with v2. I fully intend to play every game at 720p and use the feature to upscale on that 1080p screen. Can't be any worse than using FSR 3 and Xess. FSR 4 is situational due to how heavy it is on RDNA 3. We won't have to worry about any of this nonsense once Intel/Nvidia start producing handhelds.
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Astray
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Just to be clear, after thinking about it, I remember the Intel chip being kinda underbaked on the initial Claw (Intel's GPU drivers are kinda bad at supporting past APIs iirc).
Not sure if they fixed it yet with the AI 8+ or the new A8 (which has a Ryzen Z2 Extreme chip, without the AI though).
Topher
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I remember the issues being mentioned with MSI's 7 inch. Yeah.....that thing really sucked apparently. The newer version has reviewed pretty well.