Roman Polanski Accused of Sexual Abuse by Another Woman
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ClosingADoor
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He avoids countries that will sent his ass back to the US. It's not that hard if you have money I guess.
Inferno313
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Don't care. There's not a single person in the world that I'd still be able to be cool with after they raped a 13 year old in my house.
It makes me mad every time.
SurrenderDorothy
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WrenchNinja
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Rapist piece of shit. Fuck his supporters too.
Yeah for sure...money helps. I'm just amazed that so many famous names can overlook what he did and "support" him. I mean it's rape not some petty act of theft or something; it makes me question their principles.
Fancy Clown
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Real talk, unfortunately he is that good. He's one of the best directors ever imo. Macbeth isn't his best film but it is amazing and my favorite adaptation of the play. Real shame what he's done with his life outside of film and the lives he's damaged.
DiipuSurotu
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List of celebrities who have spoken AGAINST Polanski:
http://chrismm.dreamwidth.org/577422.html?view=1709454
ClosingADoor
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It's a strange thing. I don't get why they want to publicly support a rapist, but apparently enough people are OK with that. Sad state of affairs.
Fancyarcher
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Many of the names on that list are Foreign / french, so this has nothing to do with Hollywood if you want to be technical. Disappointingly to see a lot of people on that list, but plenty of people respect Polanski as a director to forgive what he's done.
MineralCraver420
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I am honestly disgusted by how film society, and society at large, enabled him to basically get away with this. I mean, at the school I went to, they still play his Macbeth adaptation when they study that play. That applause gif and the petition disgust me - how can people defend his shit? Anyone who calls out people like Dr Luke but then applauds him is a disgusting human being with no values.
SolidSnakex
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Some notable names against him here
http://chrismm.dreamwidth.org/577422.html
Chris Rock on Polanski
Fancy Clown
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Yeah he's had quite a complicated life that's marked by periodic horrorific acts. I recommend the bio Polanski by Christopher Sanford for anyone interested in his work and life. Repugnant as he is, his life is a fascinating one.
SCULLIBUNDO
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To be fair, I'll bet there are many gaffers clamouring for Polanski's arrest that were in that thread about the old SS officer being jailed the other week, wondering what the point was.
Wow, comparatively this is a really pathetic list.
Arnold Schwarzenegger being there is a nice surprise, though. Good job, Arnold.
Inferno313
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I wanna know what the point of this post is.
Jamie Lee Curtis is the best. Gamer and anti-Polanski.
SCULLIBUNDO
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I'm still flabbergasted at that other thread is all. Both pieces of shit deserve to be in jail.
I always feel bad for Angelica Huston, who had actually stopped in a couple of times while Polanski was there and had no idea what was going on there. As I recall, I think she even managed to knock on the door one time after some commotion, but Polanski was quick with the excuse that they were just finishing up a photo shoot.
MidnightCowboy
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Master craftsman, shit human
Inferno313
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Right, right. Sorry. Agreed!
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Deleted member 80556
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Of course he didn't have a single victim, the monster. I think the only way for him to pay his crimes is for him to commit a crime in France.
David Lynch noooooooo
Well, now I am bummed out.
David Lynch noooooooo
Well, now I am bummed out.
Principate
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Fucking Luc Besson. Dude got a girl pregnant when she 15 married her at 16 and then divorced when she was 20 so he could off an marry the lead of his latest film. Dude was in his 30's for all this.
Dude is a piece of shit. But somehow even he has morals.
I advocated for a lesser sentence in that thread; I would still see Polanski arrested. The situations are not the same.
HazySaiyan
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And the bastards in Hollywood will still give him a free pass. Disgusting.
If they are prepared to support this guy despite the fact he raped a girl then it really does make you wonder what else these celebs are covering up. I mean how do you watch Twin Peaks knowing that Lynch supports a rapist? If you knew your favourite game director supported a rapist would you still be able to enjoy the games they made?
Perhaps they [his famous supporters] are brushing it off because it was 40 years ago ie they have resigned themselves to the old "the culture was different back then" excuse. It's still rape though.
Perhaps they [his famous supporters] are brushing it off because it was 40 years ago ie they have resigned themselves to the old "the culture was different back then" excuse. It's still rape though.
Temeculan3000
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I try to think about all the other people involved in the productions and not turn it into a single mans project.
JasonUresti
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For many of them it makes me suspect they have some nasty skeletons in their closets.
SCULLIBUNDO
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If you can't separate the art from the piece of shit making it, there's little you'll be able to enjoy tbh.
My favourite scifi author is Orson Scott Card, but that doesn't mean he isn't a piece of shit.
The Nazis are the most vile scum of the Earth, but I'll be damned if their architecture isn't admirable.
Stead Fast
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Y'know what, that's not a bad way to look at something like film or TV with regards to art and it's integrity when the artist is horrible.
Seeing Terry Gilliam on that list has really disappointed me too.
Puck Beaverton
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You should assume most artist are fucking insane. Hitchcock would have been a serial killer.
Learning that Fanta was essentially invented by the Nazi's made me enjoy it a hell of a lot less, let me tell you.
OpinionatedCyborg
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It's slightly different. If Polanski didn't run from his crimes and spent a good chunk of his life working to help victims of sexual assault, I would be more inclinced to forgive him (he should still face justice, of course).
DiipuSurotu
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Fans of Dragon Quest have this moral dilemma since Koichi Sugiyama is a Japanese fascist who denies that the Rape of Nanking ever happened.
It's more than slightly.
1. The man in the other thread already served time as POW.
2. While genocide is a heinous crime and considerably worse than an individual or multiple rapes, but I do not consider the personality responsibility of a man cataloging confiscated items on the level of a man who raped (at least) a girl, even if the former was in service of a far more evil crime.
3. The man in the other thread has spent years atoning for his crime fighting against Holocaust deniers; Polanski has done nothing.
4. The man in the other thread willingly submitted himself to the justice of the court; Polanski fled.
I don't want to revisit all the debate of that thread, but I think there's more than enough difference here to see that one can defend one (that they still advocate some sort of sentencing for) while calling for the other to face a harsher punishment without some sort of cognitive dissonance behind their words.
So, he had bad stuff happen around him and that made him all rapey? What
The fuck are you talking about, my dude
One difference is that the old man came out and admitted to his crimes and attempted to make amends. I would agree with you that, due to the barbarity of his actions, he doesn't deserve to be let off but he at least came willingly.
SapphiCine
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Hope she see justice done one day but many survivors of sexual assault do not.
Luc Besson sure is a surprise.
The poster you're quoting specifically does not excuse Polanski in the post you're quoting, not do they imply that his experiences "made him rapey". They're stating he has a certain amount of built in support in Hollywood from a traumatic past and offering an explanation of that support. If English isn't your first language, I apologize, but that's some pretty terrible reading comprehension.
poppabk
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Drugging and raping a 13 year old is not in any grey area. Like I am sure some underage girl had sex with some rock star or other during the 60s or 70s, which you could possibly defend depending on the circumstances, but Polanski, no way.
I dunno. I've no interest in Polanski's work so in this particular case it's easy for me to avoid. But even if it were someone who's work I admired, I don't think I could continue to enjoy it especially when I know it concerns a crime like rape; there's something especially vile about that.
Showing solidarity with a person who's raped a 13 year-old girl makes me question the integrity of those who support such a person in a way that I wouldn't had the crime been the theft of a car. I mean surely the famous names on that list have kids, young nieces themselves and yet they are able to support someone like Polanski.
I agree. I was just trying to think of how these people may have internally justified their support. Here in the UK that kind of reasoning allowed sexual assault scandals to remain hidden for decades.
No, I'm not trying to suggest that his tragedies caught up to him and manifested outward, as that was more an explanation why Hollywood has given him a free pass after all this time and with so much compelling evidence as to why the benefit of the doubt shouldn't apply. All I'm saying is that he's a guy in which I personally have to try really hard to separate the things I like about him and the things that he ought to have already been in jail for, resulting in a human being that is fascinating, if ultimately repugnant for what they wound up doing and their flaunting of managing to get away with it.
No, that's what he started out saying. But then in the last paragraph drives the car off a cliff by going into a personal opinion "I'm not saying his tragedy overrides the rape but........."
Might want to get your own comprehension recalibrated.
LogicAirForce
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David Lynch? Fuck I was just getting into Twin Peaks
can't watch it now though. I refuse to give my hard earned money to someone who supports rapists.
Robot Pants
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Based on that film? No
But everything else