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[not psycho]

I've argued before that Mayweather would win in no rules, still think he would.

MMA doesn't allow strikes to the back of the head, the spine, the throat, or downward pointing elbow strikes. That affects how easy it is to rush someone. Rousey has zero experience rushing someone with Floyd's striking ability (or anything close), let alone in a situation where he is allowed to use strikes illegal in MMA.

Mayweather's fighting weight is also about the same as Rousey's non-fighting weight, so presumably he could outweigh her easily if he wants.

 

[TickleMeElbow]

It could go either way imo.

If Floyd can deck her, she gets ktfo.

If she get's a hold of him before he lands a clean one, he's getting dumped on his head.

 

[Apt101]

He's bigger than she is. And people who don't know how to fight are all "fury and chaos". Someone who has been fighting since he was 5 will probably let you flail around like a buffoon, wait for his shot and take it, knocking you unconscious. He's knocked out men bigger and stronger than Ronda with big ass gloves on. Give him UFC gloves or bare knuckles and he would knock her out with one punch. He migh tbreak his hand doing it but she'd be out. Obviously if she grapples him he won't know what to do aside from using his natural ability and strength advantage to try and get out of it, but that's her world. She could probably sub him. This hypothetical matchup that will never happen really comes down to that. If Ronda comes in trying to strike (lol) or shoot and catches a punch she's probably done. If she gets a hold of Floyd and grapples him it probably becomes an ugly BJJ exhibition.

Yea dude can fight. He's no punk, sure. I still think Ronda could easily take him.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Yea dude can fight. He's no punk, sure. I still think Ronda could easily take him.

to say a woman who is smaller, slower and weaker could "easily" take one of the best boxers of all time is just plain stupid, no offense.

 

[Frog-fu]

lol, have we really arrived at the point where we are comparing Mayweather to undisciplined street fighters and call into question his ability to knock out a non-boxer woman smaller, slower and weaker than him?

 

[Lazyslob]

He's bigger than she is. And people who don't know how to fight are all "fury and chaos". Someone who has been fighting since he was 5 will probably let you flail around like a buffoon, wait for his shot and take it, knocking you unconscious. He's knocked out men bigger and stronger than Ronda with big ass gloves on. Give him UFC gloves or bare knuckles and he would knock her out with one punch. He migh tbreak his hand doing it but she'd be out. Obviously if she grapples him he won't know what to do aside from using his natural ability and strength advantage to try and get out of it, but that's her world. She could probably sub him. This hypothetical matchup that will never happen really comes down to that. If Ronda comes in trying to strike (lol) or shoot and catches a punch she's probably done. If she gets a hold of Floyd and grapples him it probably becomes an ugly BJJ exhibition.

ninja scooter is telling you this as someone whos never been in a fight haha

 

[Apt101]

to say a woman who is smaller, slower and weaker could "easily" take one of the best boxers of all time is just plain stupid, no offense.

No offense taken. I just think you're overestimating how much any of these boxing skills would matter in a real fight when people are actually fighting and not dancing for points.

 

[Frog-fu]

No offense taken. I just think you're overestimating how much any of these boxing skills would matter in a real fight when people are actually fighting and not dancing for points.

Go google any real fight where someone foolishly tries to have a go at a boxer. You'll find that the rule is the boxer wins, pretty much every time, with ease.

 

[Lazyslob]

Go google any real fight where someone foolishly tries to have a to at a boxer. You'll find that the rule is the boxer wins, pretty much every time, with ease.

well of course someone who never has fought before would get lit up. a high school wreslter would toss floyd on his head.

 

[Apt101]

Go google any real fight where someone foolishly tries to have a to at a boxer. You'll find that the rule is the boxer wins, pretty much every time, with ease.

My friend Danny knocked out a Golden Glove boxer in one punch. I beat my friend Westin in a fight when we were in our 20's, and he boxes every day. It's bullshit. Boxing is not real fighting.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

This woman is a 200+ lbs olympic medalist in Judo. I bet she'd destroy Sergey Kovalev.

 

[Frog-fu]

well of course someone who never has fought before would get lit up. a high school wreslter would toss floyd on his head.

You could be the toughest fighter on the streets and have fought dozens of times, but you'll likely never much of a challenge to any disciplined fighter that can lay you out with one well aimed punch.

lol, don't double down on the stupid.

 

[abuC]

MMA heads, who wins between Cyborg and Rousey assuming the fight happens at 140.

 

[kevm3]

No offense taken. I just think you're overestimating how much any of these boxing skills would matter in a real fight when people are actually fighting and not dancing for points.

I can pull up SEVERAL videos of boxers fighting multiple opponents and knocking them all out, and they aren't even boxers of all renown. An average boxer would demolish someone in a street fight.

 

[Frog-fu]

My friend Danny knocked out a Golden Glove boxer in one punch. I beat my friend Westin in a fight when we were in our 20's, and he boxes every day. It's bullshit. Boxing is not real fighting.

lol, everyone gets lucky. That's why we call such things the exception to the rule.

Boxing is fighting and you'd likely lose teeth trying to prove otherwise.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

My friend Danny knocked out a Golden Glove boxer in one punch. I beat my friend Westin in a fight when we were in our 20's, and he boxes every day. It's bullshit. Boxing is not real fighting.

Your friend should find a new hobby.

 

[abuC]

This woman is a 200+ lbs olympic medalist in Judo. I bet she'd destroy Sergey Kovalev.

I doubt a lot of people in here know who The Krusher is my man.

 

[Dmented]

MMA heads, who wins between Cyborg and Rousey assuming the fight happens at 140.

IMO Cyborg but I guarantee she pisses lava afterwards completely nullifying the victory.

 

[striferser]

If its a fight against Maywheater, yes, i believe she have a chance to win.

 

[abuC]

IMO Cyborg but I guarantee she pisses lava afterwards completely nullifying the victory.

I watched some of her fights, she seems like the better striker of the two by a really big margin. Is she really juicing like that?

 

[TheStruggler]

hard to dance and counter punch when you have someone in half guard and or full mount on you, she would win hands down. She just has to take him to the mat and fight over.

 

[Lazyslob]

You could be the toughest fighter on the streets and have fought dozens of times, but you'll likely never much of a challenge to any disciplined fighter that can lay you out with one well aimed punch.

lol, don't double down on the stupid.

thats absurd thing to say. check out jorge masvidal dude was a street fighter in maimi and is now an mma fighter and is really fucking good. i bet in his street fighting days he probably would have layed out a couple "pros". of course he is better now but you cant say that either. and im not wrong. you say "lol" cause you have no experience with wreslting

 

[Apt101]

Your friend should find a new hobby.

He's good. I wouldn't want to fight him now. He's a pilot for FedEx but still boxes in amatuer, uh, leagues? Circuits? I'm sorry I don't keep up. But I know he hasn't lost a fight in years.

 

[Lazyslob]

Apt101 i was on your side now youre just getting crazy

 

[TickleMeElbow]

lol, have we really arrived at the point where we are comparing Mayweather to undisciplined street fighters and call into question his ability to knock out a non-boxer woman smaller, slower and weaker than him?

He can knock her out, sure, but she can toss him through the air and snap his arm in half.

It would really just depend on how the fight plays out.

 

[Dmented]

I watched some of her fights, she seems like the better striker of the two by a really big margin. Is she really juicing like that?

Yes. Shes tested positive in the past. Plus, and I'm not an expert on her or the effects of PEDs, but many believe her body transformation over the years is due to prolonged usage of steroids/testosterone.

 

[kevm3]

How is boxing not similar to a regular street fight? Here is some kid using basic boxing skills to demolish his foe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Xtty_AM8IA

 

[Exr]

My friend Danny knocked out a Golden Glove boxer in one punch. I beat my friend Westin in a fight when we were in our 20's, and he boxes every day. It's bullshit. Boxing is not real fighting.

lol this thread is a goldmine

 

[TickleMeElbow]

thats absurd thing to say. check out jorge masvidal dude was a street fighter in maimi and is now an mma fighter and is really fucking good. i bet in his street fighting days he probably would have layed out a couple "pros". of course he is better now but you cant say that either. and im not wrong. you say "lol" cause you have no experience with wreslting

To be fair, Masvidal was already training MMA, and already had a couple fights by the time he was in that kimbo video.

 

[Lazyslob]

How is boxing not similar to a regular street fight? Here is some kid using basic boxing skills to demolish his foe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Xtty_AM8IA

hey! there is no kicking in boxing! unless.... this is the "no rules" aspect you guys were talking about??!!??

 

[Apt101]

Apt101 i was on your side now youre just getting crazy

It's all good, these discussions end up sounding like a bunch of teenagers peacocking anyways. I'm just saying Ronda would break him.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

He can knock her out, sure, but she can toss him through the air and snap his arm in half.

It would really just depend on how the fight plays out.

He's bigger than any woman she's ever faced. It honesty seems like people have this mistaken idea that Ronda is bigger than Floyd. Maybe it's because Floyd is small for a man/athlete and Ronda is big for a woman, but you guys do realize that Floyd has an inch in height, about 4 inches in reach and 20 lbs on her?

 

[Frog-fu]

thats absurd thing to say. check out jorge masvidal dude was a street fighter in maimi and is now an mma fighter and is really fucking good. i bet in his street fighting days he probably would have layed out a couple "pros". of course he is better now but you cant say that either. and im not wrong. you say "lol" cause you have no experience with wreslting

A lot of professional fighters start out as street fighters. They get better because they train professionally. Do you not see how by your logic the common sense you are arguing against prevails? Trained fighters are better fighters than undisciplined fighters.

You're a little too comfortable making assumptions about me. I trained in MMA. Mainly Thai Boxing and Brazilian jiujitsu. I was good enough to be urged to fight competitively and was particularly good at wrestling but suffered a very bad foot injury that made going forward difficult so I quit.

 

[Dmented]

How is boxing not similar to a regular street fight? Here is some kid using basic boxing skills to demolish his foe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Xtty_AM8IA

God damn, beautiful head movement. Kid def needs to keep it up in the gym and if that's self taught, then get him to a real boxing gym ASAP. Could be a future star.

 

[BadAss2961]

MMA heads, who wins between Cyborg and Rousey assuming the fight happens at 140.

I got Cyborg by TKO, mid-late first round. The fight could definitely go to ground, but I see Cyborg getting it back to the feet. Ronda will take some shots as she has before, only this time she'd break down.

 

[Lazyslob]

You're a little too comfortable making assumptions about me. I trained in MMA. Mainly Thai Boxing and Brazilian jiujitsu. I was good enough to be urged to fight competitively and was particularly good at wrestling but suffered a very bad foot injury that made going forward difficult so I quit.

that doesnt mean a lot. a lot of bad places will try and get someone to fight kind of quickly.

 

[Snowman Prophet of Doom]

No offense taken. I just think you're overestimating how much any of these boxing skills would matter in a real fight when people are actually fighting and not dancing for points.

I think you have little appreciation for the level of training that professional boxers receive, these days. It's not Rocky anymore, these guys are, as a friend of mine said recently, walking corporations, with the absolute pinnacle of athletic and health science at their disposal at virtually all times. I guarantee Floyd does more than just boxing in his training.

1/100 times, Rousey might land a lucky takedown and lock in an armbar or something like that. But Floyd has, in all likelihood, twice as much muscle as her, and given that fact, alone, there's simply no way she could bully and dominate him the way she does to the women she's trained to fight. He's stronger than her, faster than her, more aggressive and with a better chin than anybody she's ever faced. Rousey stands a better chance than almost any woman her size on the planet, but tbh, I still don't think it's much of one.

 

[Frog-fu]

that doesnt mean a lot. a lot of bad places will try and get someone to fight kind of quickly.

The guy that trained me had been doing it for 18 years (over 20 now) and trained with word class athletes involved in the sport so I don't think he was just fucking with me or stroking my ego considering I was the only one out of the group he offered to help start a career.

But that's beside the point. You, for whatever reason, assumed I had no experience in wrestling. You were wrong to do so.

 

[Lazyslob]

They guy that trained me had been doing it for 18 years (over 20 now) and trained with word class athletes involved in the sport so I don't think he was just fucking with me or stroking my ego considering I was the only one out of the group he offered to help start a career.

But that's beside the point. You, for whatever reason, assumed I had no experience in wrestling. You were wrong to do so.

well by your posting you definitely fooled me

 

[Phat Michael]

Yes, punches.

That are only allowed in certain areas.

Not kicks.

Not grappling.

Not knees.

Not elbows.

Not choke holds.

Floyd can see a punch coming 100 years ago but does he have even basic defensive knowledge about any of that?

You realise that an mma fighters general skill set is more equipped to deal with and deal out all of these things that are more common in street fights?

If Floyd doesn't have these skills and his opponent practices them on a daily basis, why does he win?

Because he has excellent boxing skills? The skills Floyd uses to win i.e his turtle defence, doesn't work in a street fight.

He's fast? Fast at what though? How fast can Floyd avoid a kick? When he instinctively goes into turtle defence when a punch is thrown how quickly will he avoid a stamp on his shin? His foot is fucked. How fast is he now?

He's fast at countering? What if his opponent can destroy him without ever throwing a punch? What is his countering skill doing for him?

He can go on the offensive against a boxer that will be penalised by the referee for holding him and can only defend by evading or blocking. How does combo speed help against someone who knows how to judo throw him across the room?

Were talking about skill sets after all whenever were defending Floyd but...

Boxing skills do not translate.

Its pretty simple.

Floyd would be pretty hard to get close to. Seriously. like his speed and movement is pretty much top of the world, combine that with the fact that Rhonda likes to rush in with her chin up to swing like an amateur, against the best counter puncher who has ever lived? yeah shes taking a nap.

im not going to post the gifs, but you know his defense is very good. Like, hes really elusive and his footwork is better than anyone else in the UFC.

Boxing skills do translate: Punching, ducking, moving, blocking, footwork, athleticism, strength - you saying NONE Of these are relevant in a street fight? then you have never been in a street fight.

 

[karasu]

It's been ages since I've practiced Judo and my experience with it was brief, but I never had much problem outmuscling more experienced female judoka. Not that they were olympic level, but men and women shouldn't fight for a million reasons that favor the male of the species. Rousey is delusional.

 

[Frog-fu]

well by your posting you definitely fooled me

lmao, okay. That's one way one of admitting you were wrong.

 

[TickleMeElbow]

He's bigger than any woman she's ever faced. It honesty seems like people have this mistaken idea that Ronda is bigger than Floyd. Maybe it's because Floyd is small for a man/athlete and Ronda is big for a woman, but you guys do realize that Floyd has an inch in height, about 4 inches in reach and 20 lbs on her?

So?

Judo players toss around people much bigger than them during practice all the time.

We did Judo in gym when I was in Japan, and the guys who were actually in Judo club were like immovable objects. They could easily rag doll a non-judo player with 30 - 40 lbs on them.

Don't know if this vid was posted in this thread or not, but here's Ronda on a Japanese TV show against three comedians who actually have Judo experience. The first two guys were on high school/middle school Judo teams, and the last guy is a second degree black belt.

Matches start at 10:25.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zCwXVzsCOI

Ronda is an Olympic medalist. Her Judo is fucking nice. She could easily take Floyd , who has absolutely zero Judo experience, to the ground if she got a hold of him.

Likewise, Floyd would absolutely knock her the fuck out if he lands a clean shot to her dome.

Like I said, it just depends on how the fight plays out.

 

[Lazyslob]

lmao, okay. That's one way one of admitting you were wrong.

im not wrong.

 

[Marz]

Haven't looked through the whole thread to see if anybody's said it yet. Probably not since its sexist and you get crucified on Gaf for that but..

Ain't no female taking on a man like Mayweather. I don't give a fuck who you are you got to realize how much faster, quicker, and stronger men are than women. Especially a world class fighter lI've Mayweather who also happens to be one of the greatest boxers to ever walk the planet.

She'd get knocked the fuck out easily you guys are dumb. She couldn't even knock out some whack ass UFC doods.

 

[ZeroTheShadow]

Dude it's 2015 & people still think boxers can beat MMA fighters? Boxers can't beat anyone in anything but boxing. Please do some research guys.

 

[Staccat0]

Haven't looked through the whole thread to see if anybody's said it yet. Probably not since its sexist and you get crucified on Gaf for that but..

Ain't no female taking on a man like Mayweather. I don't give a fuck who you are you got to realize how much faster, quicker, and stronger men are than women. Especially a world class fighter lI've Mayweather who also happens to be one of the greatest boxers to ever walk the planet.

She'd get knocked the fuck out easily you guys are dumb. She couldn't even knock out some whack ass UFC doods.

I suppose you assume that LeBron James & Kobe would beat professional female volleyball players at that sport for similar reasons. Or maybe you've just never been flipped on your ass by a judo master.

Boxing ain't got shit to do with getting your arm broken while you are lying on your back. Its not so clear cut.

 

[Skelter]

She mains a Hunter. I'm all for Rousey.

 

[BadAss2961]

Don't know if this vid was posted in this thread or not, but here's Ronda on a Japanese TV show against three comedians who actually have Judo experience. The first two guys were on high school/middle school Judo teams, and the last guy is a second degree black belt.

Dude...

People are really clueless as to the kind of athlete a guy like Mayweather is.

 

[Hilti92]

Haven't looked through the whole thread to see if anybody's said it yet. Probably not since its sexist and you get crucified on Gaf for that but..

Ain't no female taking on a man like Mayweather. I don't give a fuck who you are you got to realize how much faster, quicker, and stronger men are than women. Especially a world class fighter lI've Mayweather who also happens to be one of the greatest boxers to ever walk the planet.

She'd get knocked the fuck out easily you guys are dumb. She couldn't even knock out some whack ass UFC doods.