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[Chuck Berry]

jesus christ dude

How can anyone say she looks good and healthy? She's fucking gaunt. Unrecognizable.



More and more people hopping on this lose-it-quick train and to me it just sounds like hell. Yes, you'll shed the pounds..in exchange for nausea and loss of muscle mass.

 

[Adapting]

 

[Chuck Berry]

She's withered away and turned into one of the people in the waiting room in Beetlejuice

 

[Werewolf Jones]

Who needs will power in 2025?

 

[T8SC]

 

[The Cockatrice]

Aside from those who actually have problems with their thyroid gland, it's idiotic to use anything other than NOT FUCKIGN EATING LIKE A PIG to lose weight.

 

[RavageX]

Hell, she looked much better before. This image looks ready for the grave.


Having said that, I hope she isn't sick.

 

[Woggleman]

I don't want to pick on an old woman's looks but no matter how she looks she will still be the hateful and spiteful person she is.

 

[cormack12]

She's withered away and turned into one of the people in the waiting room in Beetlejuice

Omg this burn

 

[jshackles]

She already hadn't aged gracefully, damn. This looks like it made her 10 years older (at least) over the last few months.

 

[Putonahappyface]

 

[adamsapple]

 

[SJRB]

She's 63 years old, chief. What were you expecting?

 

[Chuck Berry]

She's 63 years old, chief. What were you expecting?

To not look like that?

Dude that's a pretty massive fucking difference. That's not a healthy looking 63 year old.

 

[rm082e]

I've been wondering about this recently: Say you have someone who is really dangerously obese. Is it less risky to have them take one of these drugs, lose a ton of weight along with all the side effects like muscle and bone density, and then try to get them on an appropriate diet plan once the weight is off - or - try to get them to go on a diet and lose weight the natural way?

The drugs are going to make the weight loss happen. Sure, there are downsides, but there's a high degree of success at reducing their bodyfat by huge amounts. Telling obese people to just eat right and lose the weight slowly over years has a very low success rate. Sure there are some people who manage to do it, and we've all seen the inspirational videos, but we also know the vast majority of them don't stick to the diet and lose the weight.

I just wonder if you took two groups of 1000 people and did this experiment, what would the rate of All Cause Mortality be 20 years out? My instinct tells me the people who used the drugs to get their weight down would have a higher survival rate than the people who just tried to diet their way to a healthy weight, even with the negative effects of the drugs. But maybe that's also dependent on age?

 

[jshackles]

I've been wondering about this recently: Say you have someone who is really dangerously obese. Is it less risky to have them take one of these drugs, lose a ton of weight along with all the side effects like muscle and bone density, and then try to get them on an appropriate diet plan once the weight is off - or - try to get them to go on a diet and lose weight the natural way?

The drugs are going to make the weight loss happen. Sure, there are downsides, but there's a high degree of success at reducing their bodyfat by huge amounts. Telling obese people to just eat right and lose the weight slowly over years has a very low success rate. Sure there are some people who manage to do it, and we've all seen the inspirational videos, but we also know the vast majority of them don't stick to the diet and lose the weight.

I just wonder if you took two groups of 1000 people and did this experiment, what would the rate of All Cause Mortality be 20 years out? My instinct tells me the people who used the drugs to get their weight down would have a higher survival rate than the people who just tried to diet their way to a healthy weight, even with the negative effects of the drugs. But maybe that's also dependent on age?

Short of any long-term side effects that we don't already know about, I'd say giving these drugs to people dangerously obese will almost 99% of the time lead to better long term health outcomes for those people. Worrying about things like muscle and bone density loss seem laughable in the face of obesity-related risks like heart disease and diabetes.

One thing to keep in mind - these drugs can take months to start working, and years to get someone to their target weight. Anyone who is properly taking these drugs under medical supervision will already have a long-term plan in place to mitigate these risks anyway.

What happened to poor Rosie here, something has gone wrong. Most likely, she's continued to take the medication after reaching a healthy weight, which can be quite dangerous.

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

This week it was recommended to me not for weight loss...but for impulse control.

I did a double take and was told it was an impulse inhibitor and will help people who suffer from addition in many forms.
I have abused food my entire life as a coping mechanism, and while my weight is great (this year) the doc warned me about the inevitable backslide coming my way (thanks...also get fucked). They told me this would help lessen that or prevent it.

I have had a very rough year with docs (specifically the field of allergies) and this kinda of shit just drives me fucking insane. They cannot tell me if bananas or avocados are what turn my guts into a fire hose but they are SURE this will help lessen or prevent my addiction surges.

Also just for shits and giggles (and pettiness) I asked three ai agent tools; each one recommended against its use specifically for compulsion therapy.

 

[rm082e]

Short of any long-term side effects that we don't already know about, I'd say giving these drugs to people dangerously obese will almost 99% of the time lead to better long term health outcomes for those people. Worrying about things like muscle and bone density loss seem laughable in the face of obesity-related risks like heart disease and diabetes.

One thing to keep in mind - these drugs can take months to start working, and years to get someone to their target weight. Anyone who is properly taking these drugs under medical supervision will already have a long-term plan in place to mitigate these risks anyway.

What happened to poor Rosie here, something has gone wrong. Most likely, she's continued to take the medication after reaching a healthy weight, which can be quite dangerous.

Ah, I didn't know they took that long to work. I saw one guy (weightlifter) talk about how he did Ozempic for a couple of weeks. He said it freaked him out because it just killed his appetite completely. He was just turned off of food all together and his calorie intake dropped to a fraction of what he normally ate without even trying. That gave me the impression people would be losing tons of weight really fast.

 

[MSduderino]

She did herself no favors posing next to Jean Smart on her insta, who looks pretty good for 73 (10 years older than Rosie).

 

[jshackles]

Ah, I didn't know they took that long to work. I saw one guy (weightlifter) talk about how he did Ozempic for a couple of weeks. He said it freaked him out because it just killed his appetite completely. He was just turned off of food all together and his calorie intake dropped to a fraction of what he normally ate without even trying. That gave me the impression people would be losing tons of weight really fast.

I guess it depends on how overweight you are to begin with, what your exercise level is, etc. Obviously there are tons of factors involved.

I got put on Ozempic a few months ago, my doctor wanted me to lose 100lbs. You start with a low dosage that ramps up over time, in my case it was 13 weeks from the first dose before I'd be on the "full dose", and even at full strength my doctor thought I'd lose "at least 10lbs a month, but for some people it's significantly more". The doses were administered weekly, a shot right in the belly I had to go into the doctor's office once a week to weigh in and check in to make sure I wasn't having side effects.

Well, I had side effects. I stuck with it for five weeks, and I dropped about 14lbs in that time which was a much higher than expected result. But when I'd take the shot I'd have terrible nausea for 2-3 days afterwards. I'm anosmic (cannot smell) but my wife said I developed a bad odor that was definitely not endearing her to me. I didn't have food cravings (which was weird) but I was extremely lethargic and had no motivation to do anything at all. Some of these could be mitigated with drugs, I was told, but some were just "part of the process" so I decided the side effects weren't worth it, and went back to trying to lose weight the old-fashioned way.

 

[Fbh]

To not look like that?

Dude that's a pretty massive fucking difference. That's not a healthy looking 63 year old.

She doesn't look particularly good for her age, but she doesn't look less healthy though, at least IMO.

Main difference is she is thinner which will usually make wrinkles more notorious, and she has full grey hair which also makes most people look older. Her clothes are also more grandma like and she is like mid sentence in the pic.

 

[Sonik]

She might be the first person I've seen that look better fat, that's a rare quality. Then again decades of being fat + drug with MANY side-effects could explain why she looks like a raisin now that's she's thin

 

[Hari Seldon]

She definitely looks sick. She is looking like she is 83 not 63.

 

[jshackles]

At least she doesn't look as bad as Kathy Griffin

 

[Hari Seldon]

This week it was recommended to me not for weight loss...but for impulse control.

I did a double take and was told it was an impulse inhibitor and will help people who suffer from addition in many forms.
I have abused food my entire life as a coping mechanism, and while my weight is great (this year) the doc warned me about the inevitable backslide coming my way (thanks...also get fucked). They told me this would help lessen that or prevent it.

I have had a very rough year with docs (specifically the field of allergies) and this kinda of shit just drives me fucking insane. They cannot tell me if bananas or avocados are what turn my guts into a fire hose but they are SURE this will help lessen or prevent my addiction surges.

Also just for shits and giggles (and pettiness) I asked three ai agent tools; each one recommended against its use specifically for compulsion therapy.

Yeah I live in a wealthy area and a ton of people I know use Concierge doctors because of this. You basically get a doctor that does a WAAAY more advanced physical and will be responsive via text messages and can work with you on things like this. However these are so popular I cannot get myself into one lol. The downside is that they don't take insurance so it has to be out of pocket.

 

[j0hnnix]

She looks dead, but still walking. My god.

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

Yeah I live in a wealthy area and a ton of people I know use Concierge doctors because of this. You basically get a doctor that does a WAAAY more advanced physical and will be responsive via text messages and can work with you on things like this. However these are so popular I cannot get myself into one lol. The downside is that they don't take insurance so it has to be out of pocket.

I had a great private doc and our company 100% covers our health insurance (basically our only perk...but well worth it) but like all good things he got more and more private clients and I got priced out of his service.

Bitter not bitter...he was the best doc I had.

Anyway...Allergies feel like homeopathy to me at this point. I have been to several docs, they all say different things, and each one shits on the other's diagnosis/recommendations. Really frustrating.

 

[Judge Death]

I'd swap looking a bit gaunt and weird instead of a fat cunt any day of the week.

EDIT - I'm the fat cunt by the way. I'd hoover up this drug like it was marching powder.

 

[Dirk Benedict]

She has no self control. Can't get the weight down on her own, can't control the weight on her own. I don't even think she needed it. She wasn't even at her biggest recently. She looked rather normal. That tag about body dysmorphia is probably spot on. These drugs are insane. Literal weight loss in a pill. No wonder it's exploding and people are flocking to these drugs. We had been joking about this shit for decades and now, here we are.
The really big people losing weight this way still have problems afterward, as well. Excess skin for example.

 

[ReBurn]

What drug cures being a self righteous narcissist?

 

[natjjohn]

Rosie is 63. People start looking older as they age lol

 

[AJUMP23]

Hating the president will really do a number on you.

 

[delirium trigger]

I guarantee you it's not nearly as unhealthy as being a big fatty in your 60s.

 

[IFireflyl]

You guys can see she's on a stage with stage lighting shining on her, right? That lighting is going to make her look worse than she actually does. Quit overreacting, GAF.

 

[March Climber]

Chuck Berry your message against Ozempic might fare better if you posted examples of people below the age of 40.

 

[Days like these...]

I'm having a serious case of deja vu because I feel like I've read this thread before.

 

[bender]

She doesn't look particularly good for her age, but she doesn't look less healthy though, at least IMO.

Main difference is she is thinner which will usually make wrinkles more notorious, and she has full grey hair which also makes most people look older. Her clothes are also more grandma like and she is like mid sentence in the pic.

Lighting, make-up, hair, and outfit aren't doing her any favors either in the current photo.

 

[Mistake]

She has no self control. Can't get the weight down on her own, can't control the weight on her own. I don't even think she needed it. She wasn't even at her biggest recently. She looked rather normal. That tag about body dysmorphia is probably spot on. These drugs are insane. Literal weight loss in a pill. No wonder it's exploding and people are flocking to these drugs. We had been joking about this shit for decades and now, here we are.
The really big people losing weight this way still have problems afterward, as well. Excess skin for example.

These weight loss drugs won't do anything when it comes to addressing the underlying problems that seriously affect their health. Maybe they're less at risk for heart attacks and stoke without the weight, but the risk is still definitely there. Also a bunch of different cancers if they're eating like garbage.

People who take control over their life to lose weight reflect it in their behavior, and that's what makes them attractive. This isn't doing anyone favors

 

[IntentionalPun]

Being fat isn't healthy and will shorten your life.

However drastic weight loss can also kill you.

Choose

To not look like that?

Dude that's a pretty massive fucking difference. That's not a healthy looking 63 year old.

i don't think the picture on the left is recent at all. She's had old lady alcoholic nose for years.

 

[Dirk Benedict]

These weight loss drugs won't do anything when it comes to addressing the underlying problems that seriously affect their health. Maybe they're less at risk for heart attacks and stoke without the weight, but the risk is still definitely there. Also a bunch of different cancers if they're eating like garbage.

People who take control over their life to lose weight reflect it in their behavior, and that's what makes them attractive. This isn't doing anyone favors

I mean.. it's pretty epic that they finally have pills that let you lose the weight without much work. That used to be a running joke for as long as I can remember.
I would like to know the risk versus the reward when it comes to these pills. That sounds like something interesting to read about.
Cancer risk is a big one I would like to know. So many things give it to us, these days.

 

[mitch1971]

At least she doesn't look as bad as Kathy Griffin

Fucking hell it's Pennywise!

 

[Avid Reading Horse]

She was fat and ugly. Now she's old skinny and ugly. And if you drop the poundage you get loosey goosey skin and just look worse. People who are saying she was 'healthier' when she was fat are retarded.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Rosie looks 80. If she ever wants some quick money from movie companies, she'd be a shoe in for skeletons and zombies. Dont even need any make up. Just take the glasses off and you got a modern day lich lord.

 

[chromhound]

 

[Brigandier]

I started taking Mounjaro 3 months ago.

I found myself in a bad place for a few years after a lot of physical injury that stopped me from training (kickboxing/boxing) and I had a lot to deal with with sick parents etc etc blah blah long story short I had to stop training, had surgery, life issues then found myself not eatting in the day much then gorging on junk in the evening and it became a very bad habit, I was in bed asleep so much and clearly depressed and was living like a slob.

My weight ballooned over a 2 year period of inactivity and being lazy in self pity and allowing unfortunate but unavoidable events in my family life to take over me.

I snapped out of that rut in January this year and went back to therapy and training having lost a good strong physique, I was 80kgs and in good shape and then all of a sudden I'm 112kgs with a big ass belly and no muscle I was ashamed I was so weak and out of shape.

I found after 3 months of going back training I was still not eatting well even though I was trying hard and my grocery shopping was much healthier but found myself giving in a lot and ordering shit food late at night and feeling so hungry when I didn't need anything in the late hours so I spoke to two different Drs and asked people who are taking Mounjaro how they are doing, I was told that Mounjaro is better than Ozempic more effective less side effects and can help with the impulsive eatting cravings, curb appetite and also help with joint pain.

I'll be on my 3rd pen and into my 3rd month next week and I've managed to get to the point where I'm training x3 hard 90 min sessions a week I'm probably ready to train a 4th day or more now doing something else like hitting the treadmill and I'm eatting the best I've been in many years this past 3 months, I eat much more fruit and veg and high protein and I drink lots of water, I've cut the fizzy drinks out nearly completely.

Other than stomach cramp and having to run to the bathroom if I eat too fast I've had no side effects and I have felt more energetic when I get up, The appetite suppress feeling doesn't overwhelm me because I train hard so when I get home I feel hungry and eat properly, But on the days where I don't exercise I can sometimes forget about food completely and I can't eat massive meals anymore.

From what I can see from personal experience so far is if you're willing to be disciplined and start exercising and eat a healthy protein heavy diet then Mounjaro is great for quick weight loss and really helps with cravings and bad habits.

I agree with other posters about muscle wastage and looking gaunt and too thin, I think those who are very obese who take the high doses and don't exercise and don't eat much are just asking to be ill.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

To not look like that?

Dude that's a pretty massive fucking difference. That's not a healthy looking 63 year old.

is that greg miller?

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I never followed diet pills or meds, so I dont know if stuff like Ozempic and such have always kind of been around or it's a new thing.

But all I remember is that magic meds to get rid of fat was always a scam. Guess it turns out this shit is true after all.

 

[Rival]

is that greg miller?

They all look the same.

 

[Brigandier]

I never followed diet pills or meds, so I dont know if stuff like Ozempic and such have always kind of been around or it's a new thing.

But all I remember is that magic meds to get rid of fat was always a scam. Guess it turns out this shit is true after all.

Mounjaro is legit but some people are clearly abusing it and not looking after themselves by not eatting at all or very minimal, Drs are giving it out too easily and they're also increasing dose strength when it's not required.

The makers of these drugs literally say "increase dosage if desired affects are not achieved" and when someone loses 10lbs+ in a month they increase the dose even though they've lost weight.... ££$$€€

 

[Joshmyersbv]

There are a lot of women that I work with who got on Ozempic and they look like this or pretty close and they're in their 30's. One of them got off of it and said they have no appetite and the other said the smell of food makes her nauseous.

Hell, the only reason why they did it in the first place so that they can get better dates. But they've complained constantly about being too tired to do anything.