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Rottenwatch: AVATAR (82%)

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Got an email from IMAX saying Alice will be taking over next week and they might only show late night showings of AVATAR. I really wanna catch it for that last time sometime this weekend.
 
Scullibundo said:
Also, recently became a big fan of a part of the soundtrack nobody seems to mention. This part in Jake's First Flight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCicVzlD1as#t=3m40s

Can't remember if its in the film, but I'm pretty sure its not.
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Ya there are some real gems in the soundtrack that are left out of the movie. That one in particular. The soundtrack is a lot better than people give it credit for, but like Ghaleon said before it's the NA'Vi part of the soundtrack that is good and the "traditional" side for the humans that throws it all off in my opinion.
 
Scullibundo said:
Oh shit.

POSSIBLE AVATAR 2 SPOILER

http://www.avatar-lesfilms.com/home.php?page=videospecials3

Sigourney Weaver will be part of AVATAR 2. Also, I didn't know she could speak french! I suspect since her memories are still stored with Eywa she will make an appearance that way obviously.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/44108
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That's stupid. Why don't you bring Quaritch back while you're at it. :P

It'd be cool though if Avatar 2 had scenes of when Weaver's character first arrived to Pandora. That'd be interesting at least, to see a young Weaver Benjamin Button-style.
 
Scullibundo said:
Got an email from IMAX saying Alice will be taking over next week and they might only show late night showings of AVATAR. I really wanna catch it for that last time sometime this weekend.
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my mate (the guy who got us our avatar press tix - bless) saw alice this week and said he thought it was shit. makes it even worse that it's knocking avatar out from the 3d screens.

that said - we don't always share the same taste in film so i'll go and make up my own mind :D
 
Scullibundo said:
Oh shit.

POSSIBLE AVATAR 2 SPOILER

http://www.avatar-lesfilms.com/home.php?page=videospecials3

Sigourney Weaver will be part of AVATAR 2. Also, I didn't know she could speak french! I suspect since her memories are still stored with Eywa she will make an appearance that way obviously.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/44108
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I'd assumed that would be the case all along, but cool to see it looking more likely.

Scullibundo said:
I don't think its stupid at all.
It makes perfect sense since she's been uploaded. I think it will be more like a cameo than a big role.
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Exactly what I was thinking.
 
Well they've already been talking about bringing
Quaritch
back too, so this wouldn't be too much more of a stretch.

One of the Wiki's also seems to cite that Giovanni Ribisi will be making a return as well.
 
Combine said:
Well they've already been talking about bringing
Quaritch
back too, so this wouldn't be too much more of a stretch.

One of the Wiki's also seems to cite that Giovanni Ribisi will be making a return as well.
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I think that was more wishful thinking on Lang's part. :lol
 
I'm not a fan of bringing back Sigourney Weaver unless somehow her voice and personality are transmitted into another body through the mighty Ehwa! (God that sounded so ridiculous :lol )

I don't know why Cameron needs to bring any of these people back that are not Jake Sully or Neytiri. It's unnecessary IMO. I can definitely dig the second film being like Empire Strikes Back or something where the humans come and fuck shit up big time. Make the sequel darker. And then don't mess up the third film when you finish it all off with a happy ending. Don't throw any Ewoks in there and you're good.
 
Yesterday I was thinking that I definitely don't want it to be a simple story of Humans Strike Back. But then I thought about the possibility of them being led by Arnold and stopped caring about story specifics.
 
Hehe, well, Cameron's going to need to find someone to try and top the sheer badass factor that Quaritch had. Those are some pretty big shoes to fill. Can't really think of any actor that comes to mind that could fill that role. Maybe a woman to switch things up? Too bad Linda Hamilton will never work with her ex again. :lol
 
Combine said:
Hehe, well, Cameron's going to need to find someone to try and top the sheer badass factor that Quaritch had. Those are some pretty big shoes to fill. Can't really think of any actor that comes to mind that could fill that role. Maybe a woman to switch things up? Too bad Linda Hamilton will never work with her ex again. :lol
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You're actually wrong. When she was asked to star in T3, her reply was 'A Terminator film without Jim? No thankyou.'
 
Scullibundo said:
I think that was more wishful thinking on Lang's part. :lol
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I assumed it was sarcasm, playing off his line in the movie, "nothing's over while I'm breathing."

"Oh fuck, I'm dead? Nothing's over while I've got DNA!" He was just playing up how much of a badass Quaritch was.

I'm heading to see Avatar for the last time in theaters tonight. Not that it needs the help; it'll break $700m domestic today, and is probably well over $2.5b as of yesterday world-wide.

I've settled on the opinion that's it's Cameron's second best film overall.
 
GhaleonEB said:
I assumed it was sarcasm, playing off his line in the movie, "nothing's over while I'm breathing."

"Oh fuck, I'm dead? Nothing's over while I've got DNA!" He was just playing up how much of a badass Quaritch was.

I'm heading to see Avatar for the last time in theaters tonight. Not that it needs the help; it'll break $700m domestic today, and is probably well over $2.5b as of yesterday world-wide.

I've settled on the opinion that's it's Cameron's second best film overall.
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I'm at the theater now too :lol Seeing a 7:30 show of Avatar and there were 40 people waiting to get in (roughly) as of right now I'm in a 200 house and it's more than 70% full with time to go till it starts. Granted it's on Kerasotes $5 club card starting yesterday so it's only $8 to see it now so lots of people here who probably haven't seen it yet.
 
Scullibundo said:
You're actually wrong. When she was asked to star in T3, her reply was 'A Terminator film without Jim? No thankyou.'
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I dunno, I got the impression from that one article posted where she talked about her marriage that she'd definitely not be one to go back and try and work with him. But maybe I'm getting her story slightly confused with Kate Winslet's.
 
Just saw this had dipped to 82%.. at this point anyone credible has given it a positive review and the only ones being published are negative hyperbole to attract teh hitz

Some highlights from RT:

Alternates between a slurry of Franz Marc expressionism and the most elaborate Thundercats episode ever made
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...a big, dumb movie built to make money but hardly worthy of serious examination. Avatar isn't only critic-proof, it resists serious criticism. You might as well analyze a beach ball.
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Like staring at the world's most expensive screensaver. - NERVE.COM
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In spite of the amazing effects, it's yet another lemon from Cameron...
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and my two favorites:

Little more than this decade's "The Phantom Menace," both in terms of the intense expectations that it has generated and the shockingly banal ways in which it fails to live up to them.
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The corniest movie ever made about the white man's need to lose his identity and assuage racial, political, sexual and historical guilt.
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:lol
 
I'm lttp but today I saw Avatar 3D at IMAX cinema and it fucking blew my mind. I've never seen a 3D movie before so the experience was just incredible. This shit is here to stay, can't wait for more content and a curvy holo-display :D
 
BTW,2 things I'd like to add;

1) the movie has been sold out for anyone buying the tickets less than 12 hours prior to the screening since 1st of Jan.

2) I did like the Ana Lucia's character... not so fatale as a Lostie
 
I see nothing wrong with many of those negative critiques to be honest. Hawkian, clearly this film must be loved by all though right?

The last one is a bit ridiculous but EASILY arguable. Armond White probably wrote it though, he's off his rocker and makes everything a race issue, but it's easy to make this one a race issue.
 
I don't care if it's easy to make it a race issue. The problems I'm implying with that and most of the other reviews I quoted really aren't clear to you?

I don't know what this bullshit is about "clearly it must be loved by all." I don't even like it as much as some of the people in this thread, I'm sure. But it is clearly an impressive film in nearly every aspect of its production and the critical consensus reflects that truth. I was pointing out that at this point in its review lifespan, the people writing the words I have quoted are not actually reviewing the movie, at least not in the traditional sense.

For an analogous phenomenon, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilt_Chamberlain's_100-point_game#Frantic_last_minutes

Really, you see nothing wrong with the critique "yet another lemon from Cameron?"
 
Scullibundo said:
But then I thought about the possibility of them being led by Arnold and stopped caring about story specifics.
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Annnnd that's how you make the sequel of forever.

Quaritch's former CO, RDA's new Head of Off Planet Security.

Do it, Jim.

DO EET, NAO!!
 
Scullibundo said:
The Na'vi wipe out his entire troupe and then he goes into Dutch mode and calls out Eywa: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJPa8dGBxfM
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Scullibundo said:
Cameron's Last Train to Hiroshima project is dead.

http://www.latinoreview.com/news/cameron-s-hiroshima-train-movie-gets-nuked-9325
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Bummer. I was kind of looking forward to it.

I didn't get to see it this weekend, but I'm going back for one last trip tonight. Apparantly I'm not the only one with that idea: Monday's take for Avatar was down 1.3% from last week.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/

According to the BOM forums, the record for consecutive days over $1m is Titanic, with E.T. in second place with 80. If Avatar manages to stay above $1m through Sunday, it will tie E.T., which looks likely now.
 
http://scifiwire.com/2010/03/james-cameron-dont-call-i.php
Director James Cameron says it makes no sense to call the follow-up to his megahit 3-D sci-fi movie Avatar 2 and offers up a few details about what he wants for the sequel. (Spoilers ahead!)

Not only would Avatar 2 be an unoriginal name, it wouldn't actually fit: The original movie ended with Jake (Sam Worthington) becoming an actual Na'vi, so he's no longer an avatar.

"Certainly I don't want to call it Avatar 2," Cameron said at the Visual Effects Society Awards ceremony in Century City, Calif., on Sunday, where he was honored with the Lifetime Achievement Award. "He's not an avatar anymore, is he? Maybe we'll call it Na'vi."

As for the story, a second Avatar film would emphasize the spiritual aspect of the Na'vi even further than the original, he said. Avatar was primarily an action/adventure with the spiritual nature of the Na'vi at its heart. Now that audiences have embraced the Na'vi culture, Cameron can give it more weight in the sequels.

"I think we can see that there's a greater receptivity to it on the part of the audience than certainly the studio originally imagined," Cameron said. "We pared back on it a fair bit in the first film, and I think we can go farther in that direction and not alienate people."
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That is pretty much what I always assumed.

Sequel would go much farther with crazy shit after people became receptive to the first movie.

I like what he said about the sequel name too :lol
 
Snaku said:
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Though it sounded interesting, and the Hiroshima/Nagasaki bombings fascinate me to no end, Cameron's particular talents would be wasted on a film like that. Bring on GUNMM & Avatar 2!
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Would much rather have seen him do Hiroshima than The Dive.
 
Scullibundo said:
Would much rather have seen him do Hiroshima than The Dive.
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Ideally, I'd rather see him do neither, and stick to doing what he does better than most everyone else.
 
Scullibundo said:
Nah. He'll just point to THE DARK KNIGHT title as an example. If that fails he can remind them of $2.5bil.
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Maybe. I can still see Fox marketing having a conniption fit, though calling it, "The Na'vi" would probably suffice (gotta have the T at the beginning). On the plus side, the trailer for it won't have to list every damn movie he's ever made (sans The Abyss, poor thing). Titanic and Avatar will suffice this time around.

Edit: not sure how I haven't made this clear yet, but I'm not talking about public perception, but Fox's reaction. Though TDK does point to a good recent example.
 
I dont see how the title will matter.

People will see big blue aliens in trailers and posters and everyone in the world will know that its the sequel to Avatar, even if its called something else.
 
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