Rottenwatch: AVATAR (82%)

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Can anyone post a link saying the embargo is officially lifted? I would love to post a full review tonight.

Koodo said:
So, when you say some of the Na'vi dialogue is corny, is it because of the writing or because they're being overly Neolithic? If it's the latter, that's kinda expected.
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It's a lot of dialogue like "You have a strong heart" and things like that which is a bit cringeworthy at points.
The "I See You" phrase is a MASSIVE part of the film
, which I didn't really like either. It's hard to complain when everything else is top-notch though.
 
DanielPlainview said:
Can anyone post a link saying the embargo is officially lifted? I would love to post a full review tonight.



It's a lot of dialogue like "You have a strong heart" and things like that which is a bit cringeworthy at points.
The "I See You" phrase is a MASSIVE part of the film
, which I didn't really like either. It's hard to complain when everything else is top-notch though.
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This is the "confirmation" we've gotten: link. And, well, reviews have already gone up on RT and Metacritic.
 
Well I dug the trailer so by the sound of it I'm going to need to wear a condom to the screening so I don't splash anything on the people beside me. Can't wait for next week.
 
It'll be interesting to see how it holds up in 2D, and if there are any major differences in terms of the personal experience, beyond the fact that one is in 3D and the other not.

Count Dookkake said:
Luckily crow is not as rare as unobtanium.
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:lol
 
polyh3dron said:
Haha, the "lol blue people smurfs ferngully Delgo cartoon videogame" brigade am cry.
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:lol crow will be eaten for sure. I still think you have to be somewhat open to the Na'vi to fall in love with the film. It's not like it just clicks right away.
 
Amir0x said:
plus the movie has a real dumb premise and the aliens look shitty. No best pic oscar for this movie.

Might get a nod if the blue na'vi takes off her shirt though
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What will you do if it does win Best Pic? The crow would be glorious.
 
giga said:
Are all the showings at major theatres like AMC going to be 3D by default? IMAX? (real imax)
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That would depend on what type of projectors they have, most theaters around here generally only have 1 or 2 3D projectors and we only have one IMAX around and it's not a real type IMAX.
 
polyh3dron said:
What will you do if it does win Best Pic? The crow would be glorious.
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I can safely say that I know how the Academy works. I have won many many years in a row the Oscar Prediction contests and pools. It perhaps could get a nod if reception was overwhelmingly positive, but you're suggesting WINNING?

It's more likely that Monica Bellucci will come over and give me a blowjob tomorrow.
 
Variety, in with another positive review

The King of the World sets his sights on creating another world entirely in "Avatar," and it's very much a place worth visiting. The most expensive and technically ambitious film ever made, James Cameron's long-gestating epic pitting Earthly despoilers against a forest-dwelling alien race delivers unique spectacle, breathtaking sights, narrative excitement and an overarching anti-imperialist, back-to-nature theme that will play very well around the world, and yet is rather ironic coming from such a technology-driven picture. Twelve years after "Titanic," which still stands as the all-time B.O. champ, Cameron delivers again with a film of universal appeal that just about everyone who ever goes to the movies will need to see.
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http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117941773
 
DanielPlainview said:
:lol crow will be eaten for sure. I still think you have to be somewhat open to the Na'vi to fall in love with the film. It's not like it just clicks right away.
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Yeah i wasn't particularly sold on them until i saw those clips at Avatar day and became a convert you could see what JC was trying to accomplish with the Na'vi, it all felt so natural.

I can understand doubts people had but some of the vitriol against the film for the last few months have been beyond 'hilarious'.
 
I remember when Monica Belucci was 40 a few years ago, everything thought it was amazing that she looked that good at that age.

She still looks the fucking same 5 years later! The woman is incapable of aging.
 
Hey Plainview, can you confirm or deny
The AWESOME sounding first person perspective scene that was rumored months ago.
 
Hey Plainview, can you answer me this....

Was the CGI as believable as we have been led to believe? Judging by your tone right now, you obviously 'bought' it, but was it truly photorealistic? Specifically the Na'vi themselves. I don't mind the designs (Like Cameron, I would fuck Neyteri, all things considered) but certain parts of footage that I have seen do look a little bit phony at times even though most of it is great. In other words, did you ever feel a sense of uncanny valley while watching this?

Second question will be spoiler-warned just to be respectful to everyone.
Is there a sex scene? If so, I am really interested in how that went. Cameron sex scenes are typically worth noting.
 
Liara T'Soni said:
(Like Cameron, I would fuck Neyteri, all things considered)
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Gary Whitta said:
What are all the haters going to do if this movie is confirmed as indeed great, as the early indicators seem to be pointing toward?
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They will probably end up seeing the movie and lurk in the shadows.
 
Gary Whitta said:
What are all the haters going to do if this movie is confirmed as indeed great, as the early indicators seem to be pointing toward?
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Pretend they liked it all along, Just like most did with Heath Ledger's Joker.
 
Jtwo said:
Hey Plainview, can you confirm or deny
The AWESOME sounding first person perspective scene that was rumored months ago.
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Can you fill me in? There were some cool POV shots if that's what your taking about.
 
Variety said:
But once they're introduced in the context of the picture, these blue-skinned, yellow-eyed creatures quickly become captivating, even sexy, with their rangy height, slim and elongated bodies and skimpy wardrobe, and the grace and dexterity with which they move.
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Gary Whitta said:
What are all the haters going to do if this movie is confirmed as indeed great, as the early indicators seem to be pointing toward?
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what is 'confirmed great'? Is there some shadow council that confirms something is great, where after you accept this judgment as universal and submit to your beheading? If it hits 95% and above on rottentomatoes, do we certify it as objective fact and all who deny it must join some leper colony?

This thing to separate groups into 'haters' and 'lovers' is crazy anyway. I like James Cameron, but think this movie is not appealing for various reasons. Does that make me a hater? It seems there are a lot of people in on this level.
 
Gary Whitta said:
What are all the haters going to do if this movie is confirmed as indeed great, as the early indicators seem to be pointing toward?
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I wanna see Devin Feraci's review. That guy will be eating crow until Avatar 2 comes out if the film is good.
 
DanielPlainview said:
Can you fill me in? There were some cool POV shots if that's what your taking about.
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There was a rumor from like 8 months that suggested
a multiminute sequence with no cuts or anything from Jake's perspective running through the jungle.
 
I've been following this thread pretty closely, and the reviews/twitter posts that were showing up all day. Has there been a negative review from any of these journalists yet?
 
Gary Whitta said:
What are all the haters going to do if this movie is confirmed as indeed great, as the early indicators seem to be pointing toward?
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I wouldn't really consider myself a "hater"; I think the designs are bad and the story and dialogue don't look very good, but I've always figured I'd enjoy the movie, if only because of the amazing technology/visuals.

If everything in it's great, then great. I have another movie to love.
 
Liara T'Soni said:
Hey Plainview, can you answer me this....

Was the CGI as believable as we have been led to believe? Judging by your tone right now, you obviously 'bought' it, but was it truly photorealistic? Specifically the Na'vi themselves. I don't mind the designs (Like Cameron, I would fuck Neyteri, all things considered) but certain parts of footage that I have seen do look a little bit phony at times even though most of it is great. In other words, did you ever feel a sense of uncanny valley while watching this?

Second question will be spoiler-warned just to be respectful to everyone.
Is there a sex scene? If so, I am really interested in how that went. Cameron sex scenes are typically worth noting.
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Everything feels completely real, don't worry and for your spoiler, they show some
making out then there is an odd cut. Kind of an LOL scene.
 
CassidyIzABeast said:
I wanna see Devin Feraci's review. That guy will be eating crow until Avatar 2 comes out if the film is good.
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Faraci is WAY too proud to do a positive review after all the shit he has talked.
 
Amir0x said:
what is 'confirmed great'? Is there some shadow council that confirms something is great, where after you accept this judgment as universal and submit to your beheading? If it hits 95% and above on rottentomatoes, do we certify it as objective fact and all who deny it must join some leper colony?

This thing to separate groups into 'haters' and 'lovers' is crazy anyway. I like James Cameron, but think this movie is not appealing for various reasons. Does that make me a hater? It seems there are a lot of people in on this level.
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People do seem to be getting the idea of objective movie quality in their head which is weird. I imagine though what they really don't like is prejudging a movie before anyone has seen it. Perhaps it's also the hate for the blue characters. As someone who has zero problem with the design it's hard to relate to people who constantly spout out smurf jokes etc.
 
Seems like there are three different options for people to choose from. All IMAX shows should be 3D by default. I'd go 3D at the very least.

Avatar 2D
Avatar 3D
Avatar: An IMAX 3D Experience

Not all IMAX theatres are 'true' IMAX though (mainly the new digital ones). Check if you're in the clear here (GT or SR): http://www.lfexaminer.com/ImaxMapUS.htm
 
...but it was stressed to me that I should be as honest as possible in the review. So here goes.

All those worries are completely justified. There's hardly a single moment of truly original story telling up on the screen. The characters are developed exactly as you think they will be and key moments at the climax of the movie are sign posted clearly early on. If you think you've already seen James Cameron's Avatar then there's a good chance you're right.

And none of that matters.

I'm seeing it again on an IMAX screen in a few weeks and I can hardly wait.
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http://twitchfilm.net/reviews/2009/12/avatar-review.php

:D
 
Busty said:
Let me save you the embarrassment and just say you clearly have no idea how the tracking of a film's opening weekend/final gross works.

"Thing"? Man alive.
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I want a link to a credible source like Fandango or similar saying Avatar is tracking currently for an 40M opening weekend. I know how box-office works, I'm a regular in the BOM derby forum, okthxbye.

I'll ask this again:

I'm still waiting for jett an his friends to come to the table about the 40M tracking thing. What a bunch of morans. :lol :lol :lol
 
Amir0x said:
what is 'confirmed great'? Is there some shadow council that confirms something is great, where after you accept this judgment as universal and submit to your beheading? If it hits 95% and above on rottentomatoes, do we certify it as objective fact and all who deny it must join some leper colony?

This thing to separate groups into 'haters' and 'lovers' is crazy anyway. I like James Cameron, but think this movie is not appealing for various reasons. Does that make me a hater? It seems there are a lot of people in on this level.
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For me, it's about being rational vs. irrational. You are being rational, because you are saying that it does not look appealing instead of proclaiming that it is shit without having seen it. There are, however, certainly a few that fall into the latter (as Empire stated "one of those splenetic internet fanboy types who’ve apparently made their minds up about Avatar before seeing it"), which is, imo, a silly thing to do.
 
The consensus with the reviews so far when it comes to the story and characterization seems to be that they aren't very original, but that's irrelevant since they're executed so well.

Sounds like a Cameron movie.
 
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