Gary Whitta
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That's pretty cool, how big is that figure? That may be the first figure of its type I've seen that doesn't look it's ridiculously drowning in its clothes because they can never figure out how to scale down fabric.
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*shrug* I would agree it's not an accident, but I won't agree that it's a good film. It's certainly calculated to achieve certain things that various demographics will find something to appreciate, but I don't find that inherently admirable. It's a bloated film about two stupid teens and their short affair during a cruise and a bunch of cringe-worthy scenes where an elderly woman forgets about decades of her life to tell some middle-aged men about how a poor boy fucked her. I went over all of this in the other thread. There are things to like about exploring the socioeconomic stuff and the Titanic going down, but the core characters and story were dreadful. I'm definitely not one of those who hated it 'cause girls loved DiCaprio or any of that bullshit.Gary Whitta said:
But hey, I disliked a ton of ROTK too.
SCULLIBUNDO
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We're back up to 91%.
Also Tobor, we're not going to re-hash this argument here, but you are truly dreaming. DC of Aliens > *.
Also Tobor, we're not going to re-hash this argument here, but you are truly dreaming. DC of Aliens > *.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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Scullibundo said:
I have never seen the theatrical cut, but my impression is that it basically cuts out all of the character development. If that's the case, then fuck the theatrical cut.
You can see all the scenes added in the Aliens directors cut here: http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=2558663
I really wouldnt take out any scene added to it. It overall makes the movie a more tense experience as well.
I really wouldnt take out any scene added to it. It overall makes the movie a more tense experience as well.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Snowman Prophet of Doom said:
Pretty much. Also cuts a very tense scene.
There's no mention of Ripley's long lost daughter. No turrets running out of ammo scene. Most disgustingly, there is no final farewell between Hicks and Ripley (the exhanging of first names).
Gary Whitta
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The sentry gun scene is the only one I think is kinda disposable, even though I do like it the movie doesn't *need* it. Everything else though is great character stuff that makes the movie much better.
I thought that scene was useful for plugging a plot hole: the barricades didn't hold the first time around, but the aliens didn't even try them when the Marines showed up. The turrets scene show why they had to find a new way in.Gary Whitta said:
Agree. It added nothing to the film and actually detracts from it a bit. I also don't like the bogus "boo" moment added early on. The extended edition is still superior overall, though.Tobor said:
a Master Ninja
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Seconded.Tobor said:
â Narayan
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How do you reach this conclusion? When I saw the film, I figured they were just aliens.Medalion said:
Kitschkraft
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U K Narayan said:
This is one of the biggest movie misconceptions....
They are definitely, 100 percent, without a doubt robots...the ending does not make ANY thematic sense at all if they were aliens.
The reason they care so much about the boy is because he is one of their "ancestors"...he is an early version of machine life. They have evolved for a countless number of years while he was frozen and are now in charge of the planet.
a Master Ninja
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The dialog makes it clear. That, and they have tv screens for faces.U K Narayan said:
EDIT: And here is Spielberg flat out saying the same.
You know, I'd didn't care for it much at first, but I've developed a strange appreciation for this movie over time.
U K Narayan said:
They talk about David being a "first generation" A.I. that had direct contact with humans who the machines viewed as gods of some fashion since we had created them.
i.e. humanity ceased to exist, our creations (A.I.) continued to live and they revered us as their creators.. thus finding David and his memories was monumental to them.
CassidyIzABeast
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Question for anyone who has seen the movie
Did they change the Thanator roar?
Did they change the Thanator roar?
sweetvar26
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Damn, those reviews look awesome so far, looks like Cameron got another hit in his bags, or more like something extraordinary?
The Librarian
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I thought "MMS DX 01" read as "MMS DAX01.":lolDead said:http://www.hottoys.com.hk/news/
Hot Toys has gotten the license for producing Avatar collectibles
You may know Hot Toys for producing insane stuff like this:
TheHeretic
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Turns out this might actually be a great film. Never really expected it to be for some reason.
Gary Whitta said:
I think Titanic, because it is so popular, has gone into this realm of iconic film where it's really easy to sort of mock the film instead of take a step back and judge it on its own merits.
You know, how people view it in chunks? "I'm King of the World!" The spitting scene. The Leonardo DiCaprio frozen scene. The drawing Kate Winslet's tits scene.
It's a series of little gags now, instead of the unexpectedly high quality movie about the Titanic's demise with the cutting edge technology that was used to present that horror.
That said, Cameron does have to do something about how cheesy his movies tend to be if you take a step back. I think the word is... a lot of his films aren't "timeless" so much as spectacles for its specific era. I have a real problem with the scripts he makes and the way he often directs his actors. I like Cameron but this is what prevents him from being a truly great director, imo. But unlike some people, I only think Aliens still holds up well today... Terminator on the other hand... eck
rockman zx
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I don't know if this interview was posted before, is from yesterday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aao0YSITuxc
Great interview.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aao0YSITuxc
Great interview.
I've seen a number of reviews that seem to suggest the movie's story is formulaic, but it kind of needs to be because even a little complexity would be overkill for this movie or that it doesn't matter.
This is odd, but I'm wondering if it's true or if the reviewers are kind of shell-shocked right now. Is it paint by numbers simple or does Cameron switch things up enough to keep me interested between action and environment scenes?
I guess it doesn't matter as I'm seeing Friday regardless, but I don't want to think too much on the story if I don't have too (kind of like Jurassic Park).
This is odd, but I'm wondering if it's true or if the reviewers are kind of shell-shocked right now. Is it paint by numbers simple or does Cameron switch things up enough to keep me interested between action and environment scenes?
I guess it doesn't matter as I'm seeing Friday regardless, but I don't want to think too much on the story if I don't have too (kind of like Jurassic Park).
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I think people that are going review crazy are just ruining the initial experience for themselves.
The more expectations you create, the harder it will be for you to just sit there and experience the movie...you'll constantly be having an internal discussion about whether or not what you've read matches up to what you're seeing.
Just don't do it. By now you either know if you want to see it or not, don't ruin your first viewing with expectations (good or bad)...just go!
The more expectations you create, the harder it will be for you to just sit there and experience the movie...you'll constantly be having an internal discussion about whether or not what you've read matches up to what you're seeing.
Just don't do it. By now you either know if you want to see it or not, don't ruin your first viewing with expectations (good or bad)...just go!
Memphis Reigns
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Liara T'Soni said:
HOLY SHIT!
Mind blown.
Also, 6 more days*
*in the U.S.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Just search through my post history and ctrl+F IMAX or Real D. I end up mentioning it on every bloody page.
Here:
[QUOTE=Scullibundo]Depends on the movie. And I've heard some Real D screens aren't digital, but assuming they are, it would depend on the movie entirely. I mean, I saw Coraline - a relatively small movie that isn't too fast-paced or quick with its pans etc in Real D and there was still considerable ghosting. It didn't feel like it was a digital projector (I'm actually guessing it wasn't - this is at one of Fox Studios' regular cinemas by the way) and as such when I saw the digitally presented Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs (at Fox Studios' LieMAX), the difference was night and day. [/QUOTE]
Basically, if you want crystal clear image a digital projector is what you want and in that case - LieMAX is better than Real D. But real IMAX imo is better for a film of the scale that this seems to encompass. I will be seeing it in real IMAX first, then in LieMAX if I feel that I could see some benefit from a steadier image. Something tells me I won't want to sacrifice the scope of the film though.
just want to add that i think its fucking hilarious that Ebert rated this 4 stars..and yet haters (who were somehow convinced he would trash it) still want to hate on it.
He even compared it to seeing Star Wars the first time..I mean if that doesn't get you just a little excited then you are truly joyless.
I was a doubter, and I ate my crow early, but some of you just refuse to take your medicine. All aboard the hype train!! toot toot.
He even compared it to seeing Star Wars the first time..I mean if that doesn't get you just a little excited then you are truly joyless.
I was a doubter, and I ate my crow early, but some of you just refuse to take your medicine. All aboard the hype train!! toot toot.
Foliorum Viridum
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I feel like the only person on GAF not going to see this in 3D. Stupid cinema with 3D tech being 100 miles away!
Still can't wait though.
Stupid cinema with 3D tech being 100 miles away!Still can't wait though.
InaudibleWhispa
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Where do you live? I thought pretty much every major cinema in the UK had 3D now. There are at least 6 in a 10 mile vicinity of me.Foliorum Viridum said:I feel like the only person on GAF not going to see this in 3D.
Still can't wait though.
CassidyIzABeast
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cameron has 6 limbs just like the creatures of pandora:lolJibril said:
Just sent my brother, who is a huge Cameron fan a text of Ebert's review. He goes, "Yea whatever, movie looks retarded." I think it's going to be hard to win over a lot of peoples' impressions of the trailer ......
He goes, "Have fun at the movie. Ill see it OnDemand. If the storyline is as it seems by the preview it laughable to compare it to Star Wars. I guess you'll find out, seems thin to me."
:lol
- he also hates the storyline because he's a hardcore republican and thinks the film is an attack against american "imperialism" hahah .. dudes listens to too much sean hannity
He goes, "Have fun at the movie. Ill see it OnDemand. If the storyline is as it seems by the preview it laughable to compare it to Star Wars. I guess you'll find out, seems thin to me."
:lol
- he also hates the storyline because he's a hardcore republican and thinks the film is an attack against american "imperialism" hahah .. dudes listens to too much sean hannity
rhino4evr said:
Well it makes people look like morons doesn't it? and no one like to look like they don't know what there talking about especially on the internet :lol
Months of "it looks meh" "Blue furries lolzz" and then they suddenly turn around and say "wow i never thought it looked that good,but i'll go now because some critics said i should". I personally don't really care what film critics say, if i like the look of a film i'll go see it, but it seems loads of people need them to lead their cultural life and opinion.
We see it everywhere on here especially the gaming side where you have people arguing over what some website or magazine has given their new favorite game as if that will stop their complete enjoyment of it. I know what i like and after seeing the Avatar preview earlier this year i knew that Avatar would achieve what it set out to do. i.e take me to a fantastic looking new planet with great characters.
Will it make loads of money? Not my concern,that's for Fox's finance department to worry over but the response so far tells me that it will do very well.
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