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Scullibundo said:
Hmm I dunno. It was colorful...but the colors look better in all of the 2D footage I've seen. Avatar Day was the same.
Jax said:
Oh you watched it in Dolby3D? How was it? Any drawbacks at all? It's been nearly 2 years since I gave that a try, maybe I should try again with Avatar to more freshly compare it to RealD.
jett said:
Its the only version of the movie I've seen and I thought it really worked. There was an adjustment period of say 10 minutes - for me to get used to it but then it just looked perfect. All the way to the end.
I gotta say though. The whole day after seeing, my eyes/brain were still wonky in floaty everytime I stared at a screen for protracted periods of time.
Jax said:
Yea I know :lol
I've got it booked for Sunday at Sydney IMAX with the bf. He's really exited about the movie so we decided to see it for the first time when we are both available and relaxed.
I've been reading mostly average or negative reviews so I can hype myself down. It's succeeded pretty well but deep down I want it to blow me away.
Pho Antagonist
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49 minutes till a new episode of Charlie Rose with James Cameron is on!
TrAcEr_x90
Member
got my energy drink and im now off to go wait in line for like hour and a half.
polyh3dron
Banned
48.5 hours left for me!
Avatar day seems like yesterday.
Avatar day seems like yesterday.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
ToxicAdam said:
Not my woman! We got tickets for 630 tomorrow night. Cannot wait.
Okay, I don't want people to think I died or anything, but the moment I got back yesterday I just played FFXIII until I was too tired to continue. Here are my impressions of Avatar in RealD:
It is one of the best super generic films I've watched in a long time. At the end of the movie, I felt satisfied by both the visual awe and the skill of storytelling. Unfortunately as i discussed the movie more over dinner, my opinion of the movie definitely took a dip the more we talked about how generic and unoriginal the movie was.
Here's the thing. I find the pacing and the directing amazing. It's really well shot, the framing is REALLY good especially if you consider that none of these places exist. It's the sort of camera work and directing you get from really good animated features, but don't see often (or at all) in CG films and especially not in CG aided live action films with tons of green screen. The pacing is also excellent, and it never felt like 2 hours 45 mins to me. Breezed through, great fun.
But the movie has a problem from the start. It is a very generic story. It is filled with generic characters. I can't really say I was particularly moved by anything that actually happened in the story, because not only have I seen it all before, but Cameron seems to assume that people have seen it all before too. It's almost like a Disney animated feature in that sense - he's more focused on delivering a good time, and delivering on what you see on screen, than bothering with trying to tell an original story or even provide any sort of clutch for people who want "something more" out of the characters or story. There isn't anything wrong with that really, but considering it's a big scifi adventure story on an alien world, it's rather disappointing that there is not a single set piece, character or story angle which has not been done at least 3 times before.
Next disappointment - Horner's score. What a lazy fucking piece of shit. Maybe Horner only put in as much creativity into the movie as Cameron did in the storyline. That would explain why the movie not only unfolded just as I expected, but also why it kept SOUNDING just like what I would expect. Disappointing and lame. While Cameron can make an excuse and say he at least contributed to the excellent directing and visual elements of the movie, Horner can't even say he at least contributed a good vocal song to the credits - BECAUSE IT SUCKED BALLS. :/
Overall I really enjoyed myself, it was a fun ride, and a great adventure for the both young and old. It's just not the second coming, it's not revolutionary, it's not JESUS CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN AND TOUCHED YOUR EYEBALLS, and it's definitely not anywhere close to my favorite Cameron movie. It's better than The Abyss and maybe True Lies, but I'll take any of his R-rated movies any day over Avatar because they're just better made overall. Avatar might have some of his best camera work and largest scale set pieces, but it just isn't a well balanced overall piece to stand as a masterpiece.
Oh and RealD is great. It's light, it fits well, and it almost completely vanishes once I'm used to it and in the movie after a few minutes. Avatar uses 3D really well, and I think the depth of perception really added a lot to various scenes throughout the movie. I'm willing to eat crow for that, because I was really impressed with how awesome some of the scenes were in 3D, and now I just can't imagine them being as satisfying to look at in 2D.
It is one of the best super generic films I've watched in a long time. At the end of the movie, I felt satisfied by both the visual awe and the skill of storytelling. Unfortunately as i discussed the movie more over dinner, my opinion of the movie definitely took a dip the more we talked about how generic and unoriginal the movie was.
Here's the thing. I find the pacing and the directing amazing. It's really well shot, the framing is REALLY good especially if you consider that none of these places exist. It's the sort of camera work and directing you get from really good animated features, but don't see often (or at all) in CG films and especially not in CG aided live action films with tons of green screen. The pacing is also excellent, and it never felt like 2 hours 45 mins to me. Breezed through, great fun.
But the movie has a problem from the start. It is a very generic story. It is filled with generic characters. I can't really say I was particularly moved by anything that actually happened in the story, because not only have I seen it all before, but Cameron seems to assume that people have seen it all before too. It's almost like a Disney animated feature in that sense - he's more focused on delivering a good time, and delivering on what you see on screen, than bothering with trying to tell an original story or even provide any sort of clutch for people who want "something more" out of the characters or story. There isn't anything wrong with that really, but considering it's a big scifi adventure story on an alien world, it's rather disappointing that there is not a single set piece, character or story angle which has not been done at least 3 times before.
Next disappointment - Horner's score. What a lazy fucking piece of shit. Maybe Horner only put in as much creativity into the movie as Cameron did in the storyline. That would explain why the movie not only unfolded just as I expected, but also why it kept SOUNDING just like what I would expect. Disappointing and lame. While Cameron can make an excuse and say he at least contributed to the excellent directing and visual elements of the movie, Horner can't even say he at least contributed a good vocal song to the credits - BECAUSE IT SUCKED BALLS. :/
Overall I really enjoyed myself, it was a fun ride, and a great adventure for the both young and old. It's just not the second coming, it's not revolutionary, it's not JESUS CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN AND TOUCHED YOUR EYEBALLS, and it's definitely not anywhere close to my favorite Cameron movie. It's better than The Abyss and maybe True Lies, but I'll take any of his R-rated movies any day over Avatar because they're just better made overall. Avatar might have some of his best camera work and largest scale set pieces, but it just isn't a well balanced overall piece to stand as a masterpiece.
Oh and RealD is great. It's light, it fits well, and it almost completely vanishes once I'm used to it and in the movie after a few minutes. Avatar uses 3D really well, and I think the depth of perception really added a lot to various scenes throughout the movie. I'm willing to eat crow for that, because I was really impressed with how awesome some of the scenes were in 3D, and now I just can't imagine them being as satisfying to look at in 2D.
Expendable.
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Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
hey, at least you're seeing it in the best possible cinema.Justinian said:
just go in no expectations. before i saw it first time i was ready for it to be shit (or completely awesome), but i just got completely reeled in and went along for the ride and came out blabbering like a kid after too much red cordial. i'd tempered my hype as i know how it can backfire (transformers 2 anyone? jesus...) but it met and exceeded my expectations. to be honest, given the media blackout i went on before the film i really didn't know what to expect.
it's easy to read these opinions and reflections and be affected by them, but the second time i went i was the same - i was completely sucked in. i hate colouring my opinions after the fact when i read other people's impressions of something, as it ruins that first feeling i had. everyone's different - you can't rely on a review to form your own opinion of something.
haha, i was smiling at how we both call em 'the bf'
I just got back from seeing it at Sydney IMAX.
Impressions:
- Firstly, I was surprised it was only 1.78:1. That seemed to be more noticable on that massive IMAX screen.
- The movie obviously looked fantastic. The 3D was great. Some of the shots of Pandorra were beautiful and the flora and fauna was really well designed. It reminded me of Jurassic Park.
- Story wise, I was a bit disappointed. I pretty much made no emotional connection to the characters. The main Na'vi (can't remember her name) was more annoying than anything else. Her crying and squeals actually grated on my ears after awhile. Which leads me to my next point....
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I don't know, this could just be me though, I'm really interested to hear what other people think.
-I'm pretty sure I saw Michele Rodriguez's nipple.
- There was essentially zero character development for any of the Na'vi. In fact, character development was kept to a minimum throughout the whole film.
- Sam Worthington looks so much like Ben Cousins it became distracting at times. Also, his accent was slipping in and out throughout the whole movie.
Impressions:
- Firstly, I was surprised it was only 1.78:1. That seemed to be more noticable on that massive IMAX screen.
- The movie obviously looked fantastic. The 3D was great. Some of the shots of Pandorra were beautiful and the flora and fauna was really well designed. It reminded me of Jurassic Park.
- Story wise, I was a bit disappointed. I pretty much made no emotional connection to the characters. The main Na'vi (can't remember her name) was more annoying than anything else. Her crying and squeals actually grated on my ears after awhile. Which leads me to my next point....
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If you're going to make a movie where the humans are the bad guys, and the aliens the good guys (yes I know 'the humans were the aliens!!') you really have to do a good job of making the Na'vi likable. It's not enough to turn the head army dude into some cartoonish villian and throw in some references to corporatism and envrionmentalism and leave it at that. By the climax of the film the audience is supposed to be cheering for the Na'vi to defeat the humans, and I really just wasn't. In fact, I was cheering when stupid Michele Rodriguez got her ass blown up.
-I'm pretty sure I saw Michele Rodriguez's nipple.
- There was essentially zero character development for any of the Na'vi. In fact, character development was kept to a minimum throughout the whole film.
- Sam Worthington looks so much like Ben Cousins it became distracting at times. Also, his accent was slipping in and out throughout the whole movie.
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
i just LOL'd at work at the nipple comment. holy shit :lol
"correct me if i'm wrong.. but i think i see your.."
go back and read the previous posts on the last few pages, heaps of impressions.
"correct me if i'm wrong.. but i think i see your.."
go back and read the previous posts on the last few pages, heaps of impressions.
polyh3dron
Banned
Yeah, Sam Worthington's accent drifts in and out all the fucking time when he tries to put on a different accent. Same shit happened in Terminator Salvation.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Just got back from my second viewing and its much much better the second time around, once you know what you're getting. I even felt more for the Na'vi characters.
Also, let me retract what I've said about Horner's score for the most part. I think my impressions mostly came from this one scene where the score is awesome and the tone is awesome, then he fucks it all up needlessly by blaring jolly horns and trumpets as if it were the ending ceremony from Phantom Menace.
This is the scene where
What I've realised is that outside of that scene, Horner's score is actually very good. I allowed my initial impression from that scene paint my entire view of Horner's score. Its still no Howard Shore quality stuff, but its very, very good. I still don't forgive him for retconning that scene though.
I can't believe how much I enjoyed it on second watch. Truly great stuff.
Also, let me retract what I've said about Horner's score for the most part. I think my impressions mostly came from this one scene where the score is awesome and the tone is awesome, then he fucks it all up needlessly by blaring jolly horns and trumpets as if it were the ending ceremony from Phantom Menace.
This is the scene where
Characters start dying, things look dire, the score is hitting notes hard and it works so very well. Neytiri becomes surrounded, and then the hammerhead rhino things come busting through and Horner blares those trumpets like its fucking playtime. It makes the squashing of one of the mech drivers seem humourous when it shouldn't.
What I've realised is that outside of that scene, Horner's score is actually very good. I allowed my initial impression from that scene paint my entire view of Horner's score. Its still no Howard Shore quality stuff, but its very, very good. I still don't forgive him for retconning that scene though.
I can't believe how much I enjoyed it on second watch. Truly great stuff.
Just got back, going to post some impressions in a bit after I discuss with some friends. My friends I went with didn't love it, I thought it was damn good. I still don't believe in it being a box office smash, but it definitely broke some new ground.
By the way. There was a gaffer sitting in front of me browsing on his phone, anybody browsing gaf about 30-40 minutes before the showing?
By the way. There was a gaffer sitting in front of me browsing on his phone, anybody browsing gaf about 30-40 minutes before the showing?
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
duckroll said:
Good to hear you liked the 3D.
In terms of revolutionary and game-changer term, nobody was ever saying that in relation to plot or story. It was the way the film was made, which now if you watch the featurettes, is aptly applied. Also the promise of putting something up on the screen that people had never seen before is something I felt he absolutely delivered on.
Are you going to see it again by any chance? I found on second watch it holds up so much better and becomes infinitely more affecting. I can't explain why, but I know julls felt the same thing. I obviously can't convince you to see it again and it might not make a difference to you, but if you do see it again I would love to hear those impressions too.
Just got back, really enjoyed it. Had pretty low expectations and that was a good thing. Will recommend it to most folks.
Felt a little long, but at the same time I don't think it wasted any time, so I can't really fault the movie for that.
The visual effects were on another level, the CG characters felt believable most of the time which is a huge accomplishment and about the highest praise I can bestow on that sort of thing.
Saw it in RealD 3D and I finally understood all the claims being made about it. It really did immerse you in ways the regular 2D movie cannot, and I wouldn't recommend anyone see it in 2D. The difference between this and Up (the only other movie I've seen in RealD) was night and day. So many cool 3D shots to speak of.
Story was mostly very predictable, but the characters played their parts well, even if they were all a little cliched. Never really detracted from my enjoyment of the movie though.
All in all, fantastic stuff and I will go see it again in IMAX 3D, both because the movie was enjoyable and also because I'm curious to see how much better 3D can look. Are the differences between the two formats going to be easily noticed?
Felt a little long, but at the same time I don't think it wasted any time, so I can't really fault the movie for that.
The visual effects were on another level, the CG characters felt believable most of the time which is a huge accomplishment and about the highest praise I can bestow on that sort of thing.
Saw it in RealD 3D and I finally understood all the claims being made about it. It really did immerse you in ways the regular 2D movie cannot, and I wouldn't recommend anyone see it in 2D. The difference between this and Up (the only other movie I've seen in RealD) was night and day. So many cool 3D shots to speak of.
Story was mostly very predictable, but the characters played their parts well, even if they were all a little cliched. Never really detracted from my enjoyment of the movie though.
All in all, fantastic stuff and I will go see it again in IMAX 3D, both because the movie was enjoyable and also because I'm curious to see how much better 3D can look. Are the differences between the two formats going to be easily noticed?
Byakuya769
Member
I enjoyed it. I think the future is now. (3-d!!!)
SteveMeister
Hang out with Steve.
Just got out, Screw the haters. This movie was awesome.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Scullibundo said:
Very good news! I have a fleeing I'm gonna enjoy it more my second time too since I'll know what to expect from the plot/characters and I'll be less focused on the 3D.
Saw it last night (RealD).
The 3D was so far above anything i have ever seen, and the CG was insane. The film looked utterly fantastic. I was kind of speechless about it when it finished.
Story and character wise, i thought it was fine. There were a few moments i got emotionally involved, but overall i really enjoyed it.
I'll be heading to the IMax for a second viewing. Loved it.
The 3D was so far above anything i have ever seen, and the CG was insane. The film looked utterly fantastic. I was kind of speechless about it when it finished.
Story and character wise, i thought it was fine. There were a few moments i got emotionally involved, but overall i really enjoyed it.
I'll be heading to the IMax for a second viewing. Loved it.
Lion Heart
Banned
I just came back too. Im tired but I'll say (for now) that I've been slightly depressed lately, in a slump, but after watching this movie, I feel like a kid again. Can't wait til tuesday to rewatch it. Who wants a hug?
iamcool388
Member
Just got back from IMAX. Amazing movie. The story is super generic and you can tell whats gonna happen next most of the time, but the visuals just blow everything else out there away.
Also, the best 3d movie ever made. THIS is how you make a 3d movie. They showed some trailers in 3d before Avatar, and they all look really stupid with their 'In your face' use of 3d. Avatar was subtle and immersive... just brilliant overall.
P.S. They opened the theatre doors at 10 for a 12 o'clock show. There was already a line at 8.
Also, the best 3d movie ever made. THIS is how you make a 3d movie. They showed some trailers in 3d before Avatar, and they all look really stupid with their 'In your face' use of 3d. Avatar was subtle and immersive... just brilliant overall.
P.S. They opened the theatre doors at 10 for a 12 o'clock show. There was already a line at 8.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Pretty encouraging to see how many people are already down to see it a second time. After my second viewing, I messaged one of my friends that I went to my first viewing with and told him 'its better the second time' and he replied 'I'll find out tonight'. :lol
Just got back from the IMAX 3D screening of Pocahontas 3D. I mean, Avatar.
I'd echo pretty much everything duckroll and some of the others said (super generic storyline, borderline-annoying soundtrack, been-there-seen-that characters, etc.), but because of all that, I'd arrive at a very different conclusion. I'm not that satisfied with the end product. It's very forgettable. No desire to see it a second time anytime soon.
The 3D made the experience unique though, and that was fun, but I got a headache about 2 hours in (either from how much the brutal frame was digging into the sides of my head, or from the 3D itself, I'm not sure). I wear glasses, and they're designed to sit around/on top of glasses (just like the 3D glasses in previous movies like Up), so that's fine, but maybe that contributed to the headache? I don't know.
Also, I'm miffed that as usual, the 3D glasses dull the entire image considerably. Sharpness, vibrance, color, it's all dulled, just like it was with Up and every other 3D film. If I see this again, I think I'd rather see it in brilliant HD sans 3D, funny enough. This is a very colourful and brilliant-looking film, and that's somewhat spoiled by the grey-ing effect of the 3D glasses. =/ That's not to say the 3D wasn't neat; there were wonderful moments, like the first dive off the cliff with Neytiri (sp?) on her flying beast, and the brilliant scenes of the Na'vi chanting with the camera sweeping over the entire glade. The sense of depth was awesome there. Also, several chase sequences in the film benefitted from awesome use of 3D there. And thankfully, the 3D was never overbearing, never used just because it could be used. It was thoughtfully built into the entire film.
It was a fun ride, and certainly didn't feel like 2:45h. It's not 10/10 or 9/10 material, not by a longshot. Maybe I've been desensitized by the amazing CG that's been put out by numerous studios (in film, games, television, everywhere). This was wonderful CG, and the action set-pieces were enormous and extravagant, but it wasn't anything new. I felt more in awe, strangely, after seeing The Two Towers and Return of the King back in '02 and '03 than after seeing this.
edit- the more I think about it, the more I realize I enjoyed what I was watching as I was watching it. It's fun, no doubt. Just forgettable
I'd echo pretty much everything duckroll and some of the others said (super generic storyline, borderline-annoying soundtrack, been-there-seen-that characters, etc.), but because of all that, I'd arrive at a very different conclusion. I'm not that satisfied with the end product. It's very forgettable. No desire to see it a second time anytime soon.
The 3D made the experience unique though, and that was fun, but I got a headache about 2 hours in (either from how much the brutal frame was digging into the sides of my head, or from the 3D itself, I'm not sure). I wear glasses, and they're designed to sit around/on top of glasses (just like the 3D glasses in previous movies like Up), so that's fine, but maybe that contributed to the headache? I don't know.
Also, I'm miffed that as usual, the 3D glasses dull the entire image considerably. Sharpness, vibrance, color, it's all dulled, just like it was with Up and every other 3D film. If I see this again, I think I'd rather see it in brilliant HD sans 3D, funny enough. This is a very colourful and brilliant-looking film, and that's somewhat spoiled by the grey-ing effect of the 3D glasses. =/ That's not to say the 3D wasn't neat; there were wonderful moments, like the first dive off the cliff with Neytiri (sp?) on her flying beast, and the brilliant scenes of the Na'vi chanting with the camera sweeping over the entire glade. The sense of depth was awesome there. Also, several chase sequences in the film benefitted from awesome use of 3D there. And thankfully, the 3D was never overbearing, never used just because it could be used. It was thoughtfully built into the entire film.
It was a fun ride, and certainly didn't feel like 2:45h. It's not 10/10 or 9/10 material, not by a longshot. Maybe I've been desensitized by the amazing CG that's been put out by numerous studios (in film, games, television, everywhere). This was wonderful CG, and the action set-pieces were enormous and extravagant, but it wasn't anything new. I felt more in awe, strangely, after seeing The Two Towers and Return of the King back in '02 and '03 than after seeing this.
edit- the more I think about it, the more I realize I enjoyed what I was watching as I was watching it. It's fun, no doubt. Just forgettable
I can't believe how well the 3D worked. It was pretty spellbinding the whole way through. Outside of that it's a super gorgeous movie wrapped in a familiar plot. I guess the cynical side of me really wants to dislike it for not doing anything new but honestly, I was pretty hooked and any movie that has my attention the entire time is pretty awesome.
I cannot fathom how this film is sitting on only an 82% average rating. It's also disconcerting that so many of the negative reviews bring up the issue of cost on the RT quotes as if the exponential cost should act as a pivotal point of reference when reviewing the film. It shouldn't. Who cares what it cost, just rate the movie for the movie.
PowersOfTen
Banned
Great movie. I loved the characters and the visuals.
Would have been even better if I saw the 2d version, but then again I'm one of those people that can't see the 3D effects the way they were meant to be seen.
Would have been even better if I saw the 2d version, but then again I'm one of those people that can't see the 3D effects the way they were meant to be seen.
saw it last night. Real 3D digital projection but not IMAX.
Firstly, the tech:
The CG was stunning. The animation, especially the faces and expressions were amazing. After a very short time you forget they're CG and just consider them as the actors playing them. The forests were done really well, and the big set pieces were faultless. Couple of niggles though (and these are tiny nitpicks). There were a couple of tiny moments where I thought the animation of Jake running was a bit off - right at the beginning when he first becomes the Avatar, and one scene when he's jumping onto something. Also, the 'dog' creatures in the forest looked a bit like they were straight out of Doom 3 - all bump mapping but no textures. Just looked kind of odd.
The 3D was also damn good. I hate 3D, its a pointless gimmick to shaft us out of more money. I'd be more open to it if prices were the same - after all isn't the point to get you into the cinema - why be greedy about it too? All 3D I've seen so far has been either pointless or too in your face and annoying.
Avatar 3D was really well done. There were a few shots were they poke stuff out of the screen at you. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt and putting that down to trying out new camera angles with the freedom of 3D rather than simply exploiting the tech for cheap thrills, as they don't do that elsewhere. There are a couple of shots early on in the movie with real depth, and it made my stomach turn a little - you IMAX viewers are in for a treat in those sequences I think.
Overall the 3D enriched things. I still think its a gimmick, and I'd be perfectly happy to watch it in 2D - its not a reason to watch - I'm capable of understanding the concept of depth and when one thing is in front of another. But its a nice value add and I'd choose the 3D over the 2D for this movie where available.
Now, the movie: Hmm. The 'bad army dude' is fantastic. Stands there chewing wasp all movie. And as the movie progresses he just gets more and more bad-ass. The end scenes with him are great.
Overall it was a bit preachy, a bit slow in the build up to the climax - I know they want you to bond with the characters and care about their predicament - but other movies do that quicker. Its almost like they're wanting to get the most out of their forest 3D set investment at times. The action parts are short but very sweet.
The setups are a bit clunky too - there are some things so obviously telegraphed that you almost go 'doh'. and the dialog is a bit cringe-inducing at times. Unobtanium - really?
I'd say its much more like Titanic in structure than other Cameron movies. No big action set pieces during the movie like T2 or Aliens, more slow character build up and a big last act rumpus.
And the female Navi is hot. I don't care, she's my new hottest animated character - sorry Betty Rubble..
Firstly, the tech:
The CG was stunning. The animation, especially the faces and expressions were amazing. After a very short time you forget they're CG and just consider them as the actors playing them. The forests were done really well, and the big set pieces were faultless. Couple of niggles though (and these are tiny nitpicks). There were a couple of tiny moments where I thought the animation of Jake running was a bit off - right at the beginning when he first becomes the Avatar, and one scene when he's jumping onto something. Also, the 'dog' creatures in the forest looked a bit like they were straight out of Doom 3 - all bump mapping but no textures. Just looked kind of odd.
The 3D was also damn good. I hate 3D, its a pointless gimmick to shaft us out of more money. I'd be more open to it if prices were the same - after all isn't the point to get you into the cinema - why be greedy about it too? All 3D I've seen so far has been either pointless or too in your face and annoying.
Avatar 3D was really well done. There were a few shots were they poke stuff out of the screen at you. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt and putting that down to trying out new camera angles with the freedom of 3D rather than simply exploiting the tech for cheap thrills, as they don't do that elsewhere. There are a couple of shots early on in the movie with real depth, and it made my stomach turn a little - you IMAX viewers are in for a treat in those sequences I think.
Overall the 3D enriched things. I still think its a gimmick, and I'd be perfectly happy to watch it in 2D - its not a reason to watch - I'm capable of understanding the concept of depth and when one thing is in front of another. But its a nice value add and I'd choose the 3D over the 2D for this movie where available.
Now, the movie: Hmm. The 'bad army dude' is fantastic. Stands there chewing wasp all movie. And as the movie progresses he just gets more and more bad-ass. The end scenes with him are great.
Overall it was a bit preachy, a bit slow in the build up to the climax - I know they want you to bond with the characters and care about their predicament - but other movies do that quicker. Its almost like they're wanting to get the most out of their forest 3D set investment at times. The action parts are short but very sweet.
The setups are a bit clunky too - there are some things so obviously telegraphed that you almost go 'doh'. and the dialog is a bit cringe-inducing at times. Unobtanium - really?
I'd say its much more like Titanic in structure than other Cameron movies. No big action set pieces during the movie like T2 or Aliens, more slow character build up and a big last act rumpus.
And the female Navi is hot. I don't care, she's my new hottest animated character - sorry Betty Rubble..
Revelations
Banned
One part I thought that was half assed:
5 minutes is all it could have took. Other than that, glorious flick. There were many times I felt conflicted on wanting to do the blue chick in the pooper. She just oozed sexiness to me.
Despite it being an almost 3 hour movie I felt Cameron could have too 5 minutes to show how Jake's tussle with the big bird to unite the clans. I mean it just felt cheap how it faded to black like that. It was a pivotal and important of the movie. 5 minutes could have done it. Showed his struggle to get it under control since it was such a coveted and centerpiece ritual.
5 minutes is all it could have took. Other than that, glorious flick. There were many times I felt conflicted on wanting to do the blue chick in the pooper. She just oozed sexiness to me.
Back home from the midnight showing of Avatar
It did not suck.
I don't think it was Scullibundo-levels of OMGawesome, but it was good. I was kinda distracted by the 3D stuff for the first five or 10 minutes... wasn't paying as much attention to the actual plot and dialog :lol But then I got used to it. It was still really cool throughout the whole movie. The 3D stuff blew me away more than anything else.
Though it DOES feel weird when a 3D-ized thing is in the foreground and I'm trying to focus on it because, holy shit, it's popping out of the screen, but it's blurry because the camera is intentionally not focused on it. So my eyes bug out like "why can't I focus on this thing?" So that's kinda annoying. It was mostly awesome though.
As for the movie itself, all I can say is... nobody knows how to pull off a cliche like James Cameron :lol I'm just saying, you pretty much know how shit is gonna go down within the first half hour, but the plot is executed so well that you don't care that you know what's coming.
There aren't many actions sequences, but they're fun, and the characters you're supposed to like are likable, and the characters you're supposed to hate are total douchenozzles.
I'm not sure the movie reflects being $500 million except for EVERY shot having CG in it but it certainly is a spectacle and I generally enjoyed it.
Really?? Shit made me blink and flinch several times... maybe because this was my first 3D movie, I dunno.
It did not suck.
I don't think it was Scullibundo-levels of OMGawesome, but it was good. I was kinda distracted by the 3D stuff for the first five or 10 minutes... wasn't paying as much attention to the actual plot and dialog :lol But then I got used to it. It was still really cool throughout the whole movie. The 3D stuff blew me away more than anything else.
Though it DOES feel weird when a 3D-ized thing is in the foreground and I'm trying to focus on it because, holy shit, it's popping out of the screen, but it's blurry because the camera is intentionally not focused on it. So my eyes bug out like "why can't I focus on this thing?" So that's kinda annoying. It was mostly awesome though.
As for the movie itself, all I can say is... nobody knows how to pull off a cliche like James Cameron :lol I'm just saying, you pretty much know how shit is gonna go down within the first half hour, but the plot is executed so well that you don't care that you know what's coming.
There aren't many actions sequences, but they're fun, and the characters you're supposed to like are likable, and the characters you're supposed to hate are total douchenozzles.
I'm not sure the movie reflects being $500 million except for EVERY shot having CG in it but it certainly is a spectacle and I generally enjoyed it.
Tricky I Shadow said:
Really?? Shit made me blink and flinch several times... maybe because this was my first 3D movie, I dunno.
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