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MisterAnderson
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Sorry for posting this again, but I really would like to get an answer since I'm trying to plan out what theater to book tickets for when I see it again with my family, so just posting this on the new page:
Sculli said imax>liemax>reald>dolby3d
On this page some people are saying they found realD to look better because it's digital an apparently less ghosting. And that people recommend imax because of the screen size and sound benefit.
If you care about 3D at all for future films, or if you want to support the film, I'd head out to test them all and then take your family to the best.
I still not sure cause Sculli has been saying imax was superior in all ways for months.
On this page some people are saying they found realD to look better because it's digital an apparently less ghosting. And that people recommend imax because of the screen size and sound benefit.
If you care about 3D at all for future films, or if you want to support the film, I'd head out to test them all and then take your family to the best.
I still not sure cause Sculli has been saying imax was superior in all ways for months.
Visually mind blowing and the 3d effect was mostly excellent (xpand 3d). The story/script is of course mostly terrible but can still be magical at times if you've the right mindset. Obviously for some it will be impossible to get over the corniness and they definitely should have much more subtle.
Thumbs up.
Thumbs up.
velvet_nitemare
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I really liked it. Will do a second viewing over the weekend.
MisterAnderson
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DeathNote said:
Weird that my Imax isn't even listed on there... (Bob Bullock Museum Imax in Austin, TX)
Edit: Nevermind it's there if I zoom in to the map, but curiously not listed on the left. I was betting that it was a Liemax because I always felt that the screen wasn't much larger than regular theaters with large screens but apparently it's a real one.
Great Rumbler
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DeathNote said:
If you go see it on one of the new Cinemark XD screens, you get RealD 3D and a larger screen.
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GhaleonEB said:
Isn't $3 million kinda small?
MvmntInGrn
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I saw it, not a long review person so this is what I will say. 
Visually phenomenal, extremely believable world. Occasionally felt rushed, I would have stayed and watched more as it never got boring or lost my attention. I enjoyed the story very much. Some spots had that over-drama feel but I thought it was minimal.
Visually phenomenal, extremely believable world. Occasionally felt rushed, I would have stayed and watched more as it never got boring or lost my attention. I enjoyed the story very much. Some spots had that over-drama feel but I thought it was minimal.
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Danthrax said:
Jake told them where to fire their arrows for maximum pressure points. See it's really easy.
speculawyer
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Holy crap. Cameron pulled it off. I was all set to laugh at this disaster but it looks like he actually made a movie to live up to the hype. I can't say I was interested at all to see a movie about blue people (except one with Tobias Funke) but now I'll probably have to see this.
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809804784/critic
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Critics Reviews Average Grade: A-
Source Brief Review Grade*
Boston Globe
Ty Burr "Its easy to get lost in the visually spectacular world ..." more... A-
Chicago Sun-Times
Roger Ebert "...an extraordinary film." more... A
Chicago Tribune
Michael Phillips "The first 90 minutes of Avatar are pretty terrific -- a full-immersion technological wonder with wonders to spare. The other 72 minutes, less and less terrific." more... B
E! Online
Luke Y. Thompson "...an immersive epic unlike any other." more... A
Entertainment Weekly
Owen Gleiberman "...likely to leave audiences simultaneously amazed and unmoved." more... B
Filmcritic.com
Bill Gibron "This is a sumptuous film, overflowing with detail and delicate touches which counteract the massive firepower and mechanical/animal menace on display." more... A
Hollywood Reporter
Kirk Honeycutt "A titanic entertainment -- movie magic is back!" more... A
Los Angeles Times
Kenneth Turan "You've never experienced anything like it, and neither has anyone else." more... A-
New York Post
Lou Lumenick "...its rarely less than absorbing and never boring over its nearly three-hour length." more... A-
New York Times
Manohla Dargis "...glorious and goofy and blissfully deranged." more... A
Rolling Stone
Peter Travers "Cameron's talent may just be as big as his dreams." more... A-
San Francisco Chronicle
Amy Biancolli "...a monumental feast for the eyes." more... B
USA Today
Claudia Puig "For all the grandeur and technical virtuosity of the mythical 3-D universe Cameron labored for years to perfect, his characters are one-dimensional, rarely saying anything unexpected." more... Bhttp://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809804784/critic
Cosmic Bus said:
Yeah it's not a huge turkey or anything, but I can't see myself buying this on DVD or whatever. If I went to see it again, it'd probably be just to get a fair comparison between IMAX3D with RealD. There were a few parts I really liked but I'm not sure if I can justify another $15 and 3 hours just for the cool sequences.
If not sure why people are so hyperbolic about the 3D ("OMG IT FELT LIKE I WAS ON PANDORA!").....I just figured it was maybe their first time seeing a film in this format. But if it's your first time and you are not moved by it, I dunno what the problem is. It seems like the 3D is either distracting or unnoticeable most of the time.
Annoying Old Party Man
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I just saw it tonight,
The story was so cliche that at times it ruined the spectacle, i mean, the most impressive effects cannot change the fact that everything i saw and heared from the actors had already been told a thousand times before.
Other than that, the level of performance of the virtual characters and the immersion of the alien world sort of make this a technological breakthrough akin to Gollum in Lord of the Rings - as promised by the director. The use of 3D was really impressive as well, though the technlology continues to be tiring for the eyes and not that necessary for the movie experience, imo.
All in all, entertaining and impressive, though along the Titanic, among Cameron's worst. It really needed a better story to be memorable...
The story was so cliche that at times it ruined the spectacle, i mean, the most impressive effects cannot change the fact that everything i saw and heared from the actors had already been told a thousand times before.
Other than that, the level of performance of the virtual characters and the immersion of the alien world sort of make this a technological breakthrough akin to Gollum in Lord of the Rings - as promised by the director. The use of 3D was really impressive as well, though the technlology continues to be tiring for the eyes and not that necessary for the movie experience, imo.
All in all, entertaining and impressive, though along the Titanic, among Cameron's worst. It really needed a better story to be memorable...
Oh.
My.
God.
That was beautiful. Gorgeous. Stunning.
There's nothing I can say that hasn't been said before, but some notes.
At first, the 3D was really fucking with my eyes. Shit was looking blurry, and the 2 pairs of glasses I had on kept bugging me. But around 15-20 minutes in, it just all clicked (I guess I just forgot about the glasses), and it was glorious. The 3D was OUTSTANDING, I can't imagine seeing the movie in any other way. Every single frame had such depth to it, that it really helped Pandora come alive.
Speaking of Pandora, it's by far the most alive fictional universe of all time. Bar none. Those night scenes *_*.
Best CG ever. Easily. Cameron pretty much bulldozed right over the Uncanny Valley. And then took a big shit on it.
There were a bunch of times where what was on screen left me literally breathless. Thats how fucking awesome Pandora was.
The story was simple, but it didn't really need to be complicated. The bad guys are bad, and the Na'vi are good. But the execution, the pacing, the rises and falls, THE GUTBUSTINGLY AWESOME CLIMAX, it all comes together for a total EVENT movie.
Wish we had more time with the (straight and simple, but likable) characters though. Like, quieter moments.
The score was ok. Solid enough, but nothing that really blew my away. AVATAR 2 needs someone new for the score.
My movie of the year. 9.5 fits, I think.
I like the screen to fill my view, you know? This time I sat right in the middle, in the middle.
My.
God.
That was beautiful. Gorgeous. Stunning.
There's nothing I can say that hasn't been said before, but some notes.
At first, the 3D was really fucking with my eyes. Shit was looking blurry, and the 2 pairs of glasses I had on kept bugging me. But around 15-20 minutes in, it just all clicked (I guess I just forgot about the glasses), and it was glorious. The 3D was OUTSTANDING, I can't imagine seeing the movie in any other way. Every single frame had such depth to it, that it really helped Pandora come alive.
Speaking of Pandora, it's by far the most alive fictional universe of all time. Bar none. Those night scenes *_*.
Best CG ever. Easily. Cameron pretty much bulldozed right over the Uncanny Valley. And then took a big shit on it.
There were a bunch of times where what was on screen left me literally breathless. Thats how fucking awesome Pandora was.
The story was simple, but it didn't really need to be complicated. The bad guys are bad, and the Na'vi are good. But the execution, the pacing, the rises and falls, THE GUTBUSTINGLY AWESOME CLIMAX, it all comes together for a total EVENT movie.
Wish we had more time with the (straight and simple, but likable) characters though. Like, quieter moments.
The score was ok. Solid enough, but nothing that really blew my away. AVATAR 2 needs someone new for the score.
My movie of the year. 9.5 fits, I think.
Solo said:
I like the screen to fill my view, you know? This time I sat right in the middle, in the middle.
Yes, the arrows penetrating the helicopter cockpits is incredibly stupid. But if you bought a ticket for this movie you probably had to expect that there were gonna be some dumb "Ewok moments" of primitive technology magically beating out flawless engineering. At least the ground troops were accurately and appropriately torn to shreds by the humans.
PrivateWHudson
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WTF!? We're in for a snowstorm tomorrow that will probably mess up our babysitting situation. I might not get to see this until after the holidays. FUCK.
It's going to be Auquaman all over again, except a heat wave on the west coast, it's going to be a blizzard on the east coast.
It's going to be Auquaman all over again, except a heat wave on the west coast, it's going to be a blizzard on the east coast.
near
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I finally got to see Avatar yesterday. I'm extremely pleased and overwhelmed by what it had to offer. I thought it quite original, the script was lovely, the art direction was phenomenon, and it delivered an enjoyment level I haven't experienced from a movie since I was a kid. It goes down easily as one of most adventurous and ground breaking cinema pieces of all time. And I'll do nothing less but tip my hat to James Cameron and team, for pulling of what has to be the definition of entertainment. It had it's flaws, but it was a near perfect movie. In a sense it was perfect in my opinion.
10/10!
Cosmic Bus
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The RealD glasses were large and light enough that they fit over my prescription lenses easily and weren't uncomfortable at any point. I felt like having two pair of glasses on might've hampered the 3D effect slightly, as it seemed somewhat foggy and unfocused around the edges of the screen, and I couldn't help but notice my frames "inside" of the 3D image. If contacts are an option for you, I would go that route.
near
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ooh yeah. I also wear glasses, and the RealD glasses fit pretty well over the top of mine. But it can get a little annoying every once in awhile, considering the length of the film. It'd get just little swore behind the ear now and then, making it itch a little. But it's not that bad.
rockman zx
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FirewalkR said:Well, gonna add my 2 cents. I saw Avatar yesterday and it was quite an incredible experience. I tweeted (yay) this right after I got home:
"Just saw Avatar. It's an unparalleled AV spectacle. It's a simple story wonderfully presented. For 2.5hours you ARE in another world"
That's basically it. A few hours after watching the movie there were some scenes still coming back to my mind quite vividly, perhaps Cameron was on to something when he suggested that 3D viewing enhances memory formation, perhaps I'm just a fanboy, who knows!
Negative things... It felt a bit rushed in parts, the 2.5 hours went by fast, I would have gladly stayed on Pandora for half an hour more (hell, make it an hour more), and I hope the inevitable Blu-ray 3D extended edition fills any gaps. It also has great science fiction concepts that could be explored further, and perhaps will in the sequels.
It's not incredibly original but it is a movie where love is pervasive, not only the love that clearly went into making it, but also the love felt by the characters for the world and for each other.
Something that was a bit eerie, there are scenes when all hell starts to break loose where there is very little music, it's almost silent (slo-mos and such) and you couldn't hear _a thing_ in the theatre. Everyone was clearly completely immersed (or noticing that everyone was immersed) in the movie.
Regarding the 3D. I was going to see it in RealD but due to proximity issues for most of the friends I went with we went to a new movie theatre (i'm in Portugal) where they are using XpanD. The 3D effect was quite good, though the image was darker than I believe it should. The glasses are also _heavy_ bastards and eventually I put them on the tip of my nose where it didn't hurt lol. Since XpanD uses active shutter technology in the glasses, they need an infra-red receptor (hence batteries and the weight) which is located between the lenses. The emitter must have been right in front and if you looked up, down or to the sides a few degrees it would loose the signal and stop working. I was in the middle of the third row from the back, and since the seats (which _are_ quite comfortable) recline a bit I had to lower my vision also a bit in order not to loose signal. I believe if I had seen it from about 3 or 4 rows below I would be able to recline and look slightly up without loss of signal and it'd have been more comfortable. Still, all of this almost makes it look like a bad experience, which it definitely wasn't. Just a few "niggles" I easily lived with.
I will watch it again in RealD (hopefully today) and I'll be able to compare better then.
Writing this, I realize that the more I think about it, the more I love this movie.Oscars will come in droves (thought I don't know about the main ones but technically this movie is peerless) and Pandora will rejoice.
Two last things, lesser scenes in this movie would be money-shots elsewhere. Still, one particular scene that made me go wow was when. However, the scene that will probably stay with me forever is at the end withQuaritch escapes from the exploding ship, the scene he's still inside and jumps out is incredible. Simply incredibly beautiful.Ney'tiri holding human Jake after she saves him
Cameron rules.
I watched the movie with the XpanD glasses, sadly from a corner of the theater and I didn't notice the 3D effect and notice double image many times. Horribe experience but the movie is fantastic 10/10.
MisterAnderson
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border said:
I don't see why people keep bringing this up, as it seemed obvious to me that
the velocity of them diving on their flyers (forgot the name of the animal) added way more impact to the already high velocity of the arrows, not to mention they were flying down on them so add gravity to equation for good measure.
speculawyer
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How do I find where it is playing in 3D in my area?
I just got back from seeing this, and besides it being gorgeous and a masterpiece in regard to its use of technology, I really didn't like it. The dialogue and story were so cliche and terrible that it completely took away from everything else about the movie I was enjoying. The characters were all caricatures you've seen in a thousand different movies. The dialogue would have fit in great in a blockbuster from 1995 (I don't mean that as a compliment).
The use of 3D added to the experience. It didn't have too many of those generic ass moments where a gun or something would sweep across the screen. It was used in a subtle way and added a layer of depth to it that I haven't seen done before. (edit: I watched it in a RealD theater)
It's probably worth watching if you love the spectacle of things, but if you're interested in storytelling, you'll probably have a similar experience watching a movie on Syfy this weekend.
The use of 3D added to the experience. It didn't have too many of those generic ass moments where a gun or something would sweep across the screen. It was used in a subtle way and added a layer of depth to it that I haven't seen done before. (edit: I watched it in a RealD theater)
It's probably worth watching if you love the spectacle of things, but if you're interested in storytelling, you'll probably have a similar experience watching a movie on Syfy this weekend.
TrAcEr_x90
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did anyone else get those cheesy yellow glasses at a imax? i have a feeling i went to the wrong place in colorado. when i saw the 15 minute preview i had the black realD giant glasses and it rocked!
Because even with those factors the arrows still would not approach the velocity let alone the density of an actual bullet.....and the glass itself is supposed to be bulletproof. Bullets move at something like 500 meters per second....a banshee going maybe doing maybe 200 miles per hour can't touch that. Gravity's acceleration is neglibile as well.MisterAnderson said:
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I wasn't really impressed by the 3D (this was my first 3D) viewing. It only adds some depth of field as they traverse through the forest and some segments at the start but its nothing WOW or in your face (except the UI for the video diaries). I think there was one moment where it actually appeared 3D when Jake's gun (you already seen this in the trailers) as he meets the wildlife is pointed towards the camera and it looks like it's coming out of the screen. Other than that, there was nothing notable to mention IMHO.
In fact it fucked hurt my eyes at the start. The glasses made the contrast levels lower than what was on screen, so I actually had a slightly darker picture than what was on view. I often pulled the glasses down a little to see the screen and there were times it actually looked a lot better. Overall next time I will see it in standard 2D and I'm pretty sure I'll enjoy it a bit more.
I'm surprised they tout this movie as one intentionally made for 3D moving from the start. Maybe it was the Cinema I went to, or maybe it's my eyes, but Avatar didn't seem like a 3D movie - just a gorgeous piece with elements of 3D here and there
In fact it fucked hurt my eyes at the start. The glasses made the contrast levels lower than what was on screen, so I actually had a slightly darker picture than what was on view. I often pulled the glasses down a little to see the screen and there were times it actually looked a lot better. Overall next time I will see it in standard 2D and I'm pretty sure I'll enjoy it a bit more.
I'm surprised they tout this movie as one intentionally made for 3D moving from the start. Maybe it was the Cinema I went to, or maybe it's my eyes, but Avatar didn't seem like a 3D movie - just a gorgeous piece with elements of 3D here and there
Fallout-NL
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Right im sittin in imax amsterdam right now. Rdy to see it. Hope its good.
Joel Was Right
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I haven't seen the movie. But from 1) the Na'vi being much larger and stronger than humans, 2) meaning the bow would be larger and stronger than the human equivalent, 3) the arrow being much larger and heavier than a bullet would add up to at least as much force as a bullet. Cameron's enough of a physics geek that I wouldn't be surprised if he had it worked out. :lolborder said:
Meus Renaissance said:
Damn that's a shame. Every single 3D movie I've seen so far have fallen into the "just a gorgeous piece with elements of 3D here and there", thought Avatar was gonna change that. The 3D looked great in the clips from Avatar Day though, I guess I'll find out tomorrow afternoon.
DieNgamers
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Don't worry, just watch yourself.aznpxdd said:
It was my first 3D show, too and I was blown away. maybe I'm easy to impress but it definitely added a new dimension to the film in a subtle but impactful way. No "in your face" scenes but that's intended. I watched it in a RealD theatre. Revelations
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TrAcEr_x90 said:
:lol :lol Ghetto.
Magnus said:
The way I justified the name in my head was that this is the material that humanity needs in order to survive and provide the energy needed to make humans a true starfaring nation. The importance of the material and the difficulty of obtaining it was probably not lost on the media and population back on earth. (It's probably what everyone is talking about)
Therefore, it's a name that probably just came into general usage, but not its "official" name.
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