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I just got back from seeing it a third time (avarcrack indeed), and I can confirm that only four Na'vi went up to the banshee nest (Jake, Tsu'Tey, a random male and female). Neytiri comes flying after.
And those weren't Thanator cubs, they were Vyperwolf cubs.
The only notable scene from the theatrical trailer cut out of the movie is when Jake is in the bar. (edit: beaten with this one)
And those weren't Thanator cubs, they were Vyperwolf cubs.
The only notable scene from the theatrical trailer cut out of the movie is when Jake is in the bar. (edit: beaten with this one)
Nope. The only earth scenes in the movie are with Jake and the two guys in the morgue where his brother gets cremated.stuburns said:
IIRC I remember reading an article from some critic (or something similar) who saw a not that old cut of the movie, and he said the movie began with Jake in his apartment and that the scope of the movie gradually gets bigger and bigger from there. Anyone else remember this?
The last cut of the film before the current one was probably 180 or so minutes. Even Horner was talking about a 3 hour movie when he was interviewed not too long ago.
â Narayan
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This would have been really cool to see, but probably would have pushed the film some measure beyond the three hour spectrum. Hopefully there will be a director's cut that'll have a lot more footage.Dead said:
Guardian Bob
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I can't help but look at this for 5 minuets every time I see it.
Kai Dracon
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So, talking with a friend about the movie, we considered that the standard colonialism tropes used in Avatar are remixed in a slightly different way that is typical for what it's worth.
Generally, in the story of the invaders vs. the exploited indigenous people, the ending plays out one of three ways:
1. A peacemaker appears from one side or the other and defuses the conflict, everybody learns a lesson, and it's hugs all around.
2. The indigenous people are wiped out, and the invaders learn a terrible lesson later down the road.
3. The indigenous people are driven out of their homeland, but survive to enjoy a moral victory, such as the invaders meeting their own ruin by not respecting nature, or something.
In Avatar
Generally, in the story of the invaders vs. the exploited indigenous people, the ending plays out one of three ways:
1. A peacemaker appears from one side or the other and defuses the conflict, everybody learns a lesson, and it's hugs all around.
2. The indigenous people are wiped out, and the invaders learn a terrible lesson later down the road.
3. The indigenous people are driven out of their homeland, but survive to enjoy a moral victory, such as the invaders meeting their own ruin by not respecting nature, or something.
In Avatar
the indigenous people pretty much pull out a total win and drive the invaders out. This seems like the less common outcome, usually because it's too implausible. Ewoks vs Stormtroopers, etc. Avatar justifies it via the "scientific" living planet and all but even so.
ryutaro's mama
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Kaijima said:
No, forget that logic man, even though it's sound.
It's just Blue Pocahontas plain and simple.
That's it.
Karma Kramer
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I will say how DISAPPOINTED I was we did not see Earth in the final cut.
Fuck man, I so wanted to jizz off to Blade Runner, Cameron style
Fuck man, I so wanted to jizz off to Blade Runner, Cameron style
BruceLeeRoy
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Just got back from my 3rd screening and all I can think about is going at least one more time.
Damnit I am obsessed!!
Damnit I am obsessed!!
brandonh83
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Intro is the only thing I thought was rushed, but the stuff about his brother was skimmed over quickly because
Don't worry, I'm only kidding. Well, to an extent.
Cameron doesn't want us guessing that Tom Sully will show up in Na'vi form in Avatar 2 and they spoon-fed Jake a bunch of bullshit about his bro's death
Don't worry, I'm only kidding. Well, to an extent.
This movie is extremely derivative in story, in pacing, and in story structure.
And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. I thought it was great, it played on all the right notes, and one of the most enjoyable experiences I had in a theater in a long time.
Oh yeah it was freaking beautiful.
And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. I thought it was great, it played on all the right notes, and one of the most enjoyable experiences I had in a theater in a long time.
Oh yeah it was freaking beautiful.
Before we went to last Friday's screening, my wife was trying to do anything to get out of going. She called some of my friends to go in her place, threatened to play her Ipod touch while she was there, begged to go see another movie while I watched Avatar (she would have, but there was no other movie that matched up at the starting time).
We were renting a movie tonight and an Avatar preview came on first. She says, "I want to go see it again".
Whoa.
We were renting a movie tonight and an Avatar preview came on first. She says, "I want to go see it again".
Whoa.
Karma Kramer
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ToxicAdam said:
ryutaro's mama
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"Everyone eventually comes around."Karma Kramer said:
Karma Kramer
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tino said:
No I know... but I still wanted to see that, especially with all the glorious new CG and 3D techniques.
Spike Spiegel
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So I finally got the chance to see this tonight, just made it back home a few minutes ago so it's still fresh and I'm still trying to process everything. Overall I enjoyed it and wouldn't mind seeing it again, but I don't think I would have been into it as much if it had been about Native Americans instead of blue-skinned Na'vi aliens; a beautiful, exotic setting goes a long way in dressing up an unremarkable story. Let's face it: the plot wasn't anything extraordinary, it was downright predictable and even cliche; but the visual experience of the film makes up for most of the plot's shortcomings. It didn't take much effort to forget that the Na'vi were computer-generated models, and start believing that they're real.
I should also mention that this was my first "modern" 3D film experience, and it blew my mind. Seemed to be the case for a lot of folks in the theater, too. The added fields of depth definitely play tricks with your mind; a raised hand, jungle plant, or floating squid-thing in the foreground just begs to be touched. Can't say I appreciate the price of admission, though; ticket prices have gone up twice this year by my recollection, and the added cost of 3D takes an even bigger bite out of the wallet.
If I see this again in theaters, it probably won't be in 3D.
I should also mention that this was my first "modern" 3D film experience, and it blew my mind. Seemed to be the case for a lot of folks in the theater, too. The added fields of depth definitely play tricks with your mind; a raised hand, jungle plant, or floating squid-thing in the foreground just begs to be touched. Can't say I appreciate the price of admission, though; ticket prices have gone up twice this year by my recollection, and the added cost of 3D takes an even bigger bite out of the wallet.
If I see this again in theaters, it probably won't be in 3D.
after seeing Avatar I can't stop thinking that this movie must had to have some strong influences and inspiration from Panzer Dragoon Games
also maybe is because my expectations were to high for my first 3D movie but I thought that the 3D effect was too subtle, I quite loved the particles and the reflections but those were the only parts were the 3d really shined ...and the subtitles
overall I liked it, I'll probably go see it again: 8/10
Now that I think about it I'm going to play some PD: Orta, I hope it runs well on X360.
also maybe is because my expectations were to high for my first 3D movie but I thought that the 3D effect was too subtle, I quite loved the particles and the reflections but those were the only parts were the 3d really shined ...and the subtitles
overall I liked it, I'll probably go see it again: 8/10
Now that I think about it I'm going to play some PD: Orta, I hope it runs well on X360.
Karma Kramer
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I really love the score for this movie. Finally got around to just listening to it, and its very powerful and well put together. God damn this movie is perfect
â Narayan
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I'm going to see it for a third time next Monday.y2dvd said:
It's amazing how the score is catching on with some people. Pretty much as soon as the film came out almost everyone had nothing positive to say about the score at all. Even I too, after seeing the film didn't really care for the score. But for some reason after listening to it recently, I've started to like it a lot. That's so strange.Karma Kramer said:
I think that's the sign of a good score, actually. I never thought it was very intrusive, only supporting the action but not shouting over it. A really good score does its job when you don't notice it when watching the movie; it just blends in to help set the tone of the scene. On that count I thought it was superb.Combine said:
After watching the trailer for the 20th time, I felt that I no choice but to go in the movies to see it. Mind you, I haven't seen much movies made the past 3 years.
There's far too much stuff to comment about this movie for me to write about here, but this movie sure showed me a clear difference between the terms "3D" and "CG". Saying the special effects this movie are 3D is wrong somehow.
There's far too much stuff to comment about this movie for me to write about here, but this movie sure showed me a clear difference between the terms "3D" and "CG". Saying the special effects this movie are 3D is wrong somehow.
Karma Kramer
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Combine said:
Yep I was the same
After seeing the movie today I was thinking Tsu'tey doesn't get enough love.
He had some of the best and funniest expressions in the movie, and I loved how he reacted when
. Thought he was pretty memorable
He had some of the best and funniest expressions in the movie, and I loved how he reacted when
When Jake came flying down on the Leonopteryx
too bad he died ;_;
SEGAvangelist
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tino said:
I didn't like the score much either. Typical rehashed James Horner crap most of the time. It's too bad because he's ace when he wants to be. Braveheart has an awesome score, but I wonder if he is just dried up now. I guess if you've never heard a James Horner score before it's alright.
â Narayan
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I feel as though Yasunori Mitsuda would have made an excellent score for this film.tino said:
I got back from the film so things are pretty fresh.
1) Great visuals.
2) 3D was hit/miss and will probably be the last time I watch a 3D movie in the theaters. I just don't feel it is worth it. I will say that this movie had the best use of the effect though.
3) Story was cliche, predictable and had many, eye-rollingly bad moments. However, it was still told erll. It did drag on a bit long though.
4) Great visuals.
The visuals save it overall, but wasn't too impressed with almost every other aspect of the movie.
Don't mean to be a Debbie Downer. My buddy was much, much worse to the movie than I was. :lol
1) Great visuals.
2) 3D was hit/miss and will probably be the last time I watch a 3D movie in the theaters. I just don't feel it is worth it. I will say that this movie had the best use of the effect though.
3) Story was cliche, predictable and had many, eye-rollingly bad moments. However, it was still told erll. It did drag on a bit long though.
4) Great visuals.
The visuals save it overall, but wasn't too impressed with almost every other aspect of the movie.
Don't mean to be a Debbie Downer. My buddy was much, much worse to the movie than I was. :lol
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Guardian Bob
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Dead said:time for a new avatar featuring avatar
I LOVED the look of him with his war paint.
Great movie.
But with all the tentacles on everything ever, and the way everything interacts, I can only think that Rule 34 will have its unholy way with the Avatar universe. My imagination won't stop going down that horrible path; goddamn the internet!
Then again, maybe it's so weird that no one will decide to do it. This is best.
But with all the tentacles on everything ever, and the way everything interacts, I can only think that Rule 34 will have its unholy way with the Avatar universe. My imagination won't stop going down that horrible path; goddamn the internet!
Then again, maybe it's so weird that no one will decide to do it. This is best.
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I got Enemy at the Gates flashbacks.Karma Kramer said:
"I am a stone... I do not move... I put snow in my mouth, so he won't see my breath."
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