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Rottenwatch: AVATAR (82%)

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Tricky I Shadow said:
I’m leaning towards it not winning best picture at the Oscars, but why exactly are people saying this doesn’t have a chance at surpassing Titanic? WHY?

Titanic was a box-office freak, and guess what? AVATAR is too! Unless something goes horribly wrong why is it hard to believe that it might top Titanic?

msdstc said:
Won't happen. Might have a shot at the dark knight though.

Yeah, this reminds me, I really do have to start taking some of you guys less seriously. Some of you just have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.
 
VGChampion said:
It may have been mentioned here before but when Jake first comes out of the ship and the other soldiers make a snide remark about his wheelchair...is that scene CGI? Every single time I see that scene it just looks off from the rest.

I believe that scene was done by a render house in UK. It may have lower quality than ILM and WETA, although I didn't notice it.
 
Rentahamster said:
A fine moral, indeed. I think, however, that the lack of nuance and absolutist, heavy-handed delivery of that point weakens the message a bit. After all, we wouldn't be posting on the internet if not for this concept of "human greed".


The delivery was way too sermon-ish for my taste. I rolled my eyes when I heard, "We killed our mother".

Jesus, STFU Cameron.
 
HokieJoe said:
The delivery was way too sermon-ish for my taste. I rolled my eyes when I heard, "We killed our mother".

Jesus, STFU Cameron.
Heh, I definitely did hear a lot of groaning in the theater when Jake said that. There were also a few awkward noises when you heard the obvious parallels like "shock and awe" and such.
 
Dear GAF, I love you all, but I've already sent out the AVATAR scriptment to like 15 different people that have asked me in the last week. I'm pretty sure its out there online now, have a quick search before pming me (I have another 6 people asking). Cheers!

Man I hope none of you work for TMZ
 
Back from my second viewing (IMAX 3D again) and it was as good as the first time. Some applause and cheering was again heard at the AVATAR title at the end. I really like this movie. It plays to so many of my tastes.
 
From the Activist Survival Guide:

Uniltaron:

Na'vi ceremony in which a prospective warrior ingests psychoactive agents. Subsequent hallucinations are believed to be revelatory by Na'vi.

mlowu1.jpg


Is packing his bags for Pandora right this second
 
Combine said:
^^^ :lol :lol :lol

I need to get that book. And Cameron needs to get John Locke on Pandora now!!! :D
If you loved the movie, its a no brainer buy

Covers everything from the Na'vi having to use Octal arithmetic, to their flutes, looms, hammocks, bows, as well as all the animals and plants (not all seen in the movie). There is even a list of translated Na'vi -> English words at the end (several pages worth).
 
Saw it a 2nd time tonight. Liked it better than the first time even, it's just really immersive. RealD was way fucking impressive too. I saw it Imax originally, and looking outside of where your focus was intended really caused strain on the eyes. The image was huge, yet not as sharp as RealD. I felt fine looking wherever I wanted on screen here, which is great since it's such a gorgeous film. It was just really impressive, though unfortunately the sound in comparison to Imax was just poo. Actually, the size of the screen in Imax does help throw you into the frame a little better as well. I guess ideally would be Imax sound, RealD picture, and Imax size or somewhere between the two - but I'm glad I saw it in both.

I enjoyed the story a lot this time around, it's really well paced and can only use some extra time in a couple places. I'm surprised how effective the scenes of first exploring Pandora were on 2nd watch. I didn't expect it to entertain and hold awe so much on seeing it again, but there's a level of immersion it works on that is really amazing. I just love the taste put into the visuals, and the CG in general. The action is hard hitting, more than I thought prior as well. You really get a sense of the destruction, and that it's quickly taking its toll on everyone, as long as it continues. The action is just really kick ass compared to the average blockbuster. Just gorgeously directed and choreographed, as the whole film is.

I saw it with a lot of family, 10pm monday night. The theater is still getting packed at that hour on a Monday. I went with my Aunt, 2 cousins, Mom, Dad, and sister. The only ones who didn't seem to love it was my sister and her similarly aged cousin (19). They giggled a lot at the Na'vi and Neytiri. Mostly how wild and native-like she was, and the people. The love scene too got some laughs. But my Aunt, Mom, Dad, and younger cousin (12 year old boy) loved it. My Mom and Aunt got audibly nervous/tense during the final battle. They all came out glowing, saying out loud they've never seen anything like that.
 
J2 Cool said:
I guess ideally would be Imax sound, RealD picture, and Imax size or somewhere between the two - but I'm glad I saw it in both.
Hopefully that should be coming when IMAX finally release their digital system for large format theaters. Sadly, it's still quite a few years away.
 
Scullibundo said:
Have they actually spoken about those plans?
Wired said:

IMAX really can't skimp on parts and resolution here. People will not accept something worse than the old 70mm system.

8K should do the trick. It will take quite a bit of R&D before a high enough quality projector at that resolution can be released, so hopefully they're willing to spend the money.
NHK demonstrated a prototype 8K resolution projector last year.

The idea of watching 3D films with the sharpness and clarity of RealD on an IMAX-sized screen at 48-60fps is mind-fucking.
 
Krev said:
IMAX really can't skimp on parts and resolution here. People will not accept something worse than the old 70mm system.

8K should do the trick. It will take quite a bit of R&D before a high enough quality projector at that resolution can be released, so hopefully they're willing to spend the money.
NHK demonstrated a prototype 8K resolution projector last year.

The idea of watching 3D films with the sharpness and clarity of RealD on an IMAX-sized screen at 48-60fps is mind-fucking.

So long as they get the upgrades in time for Battle Angel (which of course they will), I'll be happy.

Its going to be a hard wait till the announcement of Cameron's next project, let alone the project itself. I know I will cry when he confirms The Dive.
 
"you should fucking go watch avatar...OR I WILL FIND YOU!"
:lol
 
Whats with this "yearning to return" bullshit? I liked the movie but I my desire to see it again doesn't qualify as "yearning." I sorta just want to see it in 2D to see how things are different.
 
Jamesfrom818 said:
Whats with this "yearning to return" bullshit? I liked the movie but I my desire to see it again doesn't qualify as "yearning." I sorta just want to see it in 2D to see how things are different.

OH MAN I THINK ITS FANBOYS TRYIN TO GET YOU AND ME TO GO SEE IT TONNES. FUCK THAT SHIT BRO LETS GO SEE AN EDUCATION RITE.
 
Scullibundo said:
OH MAN I THINK ITS FANBOYS TRYIN TO GET YOU AND ME TO GO SEE IT TONNES. FUCK THAT SHIT BRO LETS GO SEE AN EDUCATION RITE.
:lol
 
This confirms that no matter how well done, I hate 3D movies. Oh well.

Liked about more than half of the movie. Bit too heavy handed and cheesy towards the end.

No urge to go see it again, but might might netflix it when it's out on DVD.
 
Something else cool from that article.
What's coming up next for IMAX?

We're always looking at a lot of things to do. Brightness and contrast are important. Dynamic range is something we're focusing a lot of attention on so we can make more shades of black, blacker blacks, and have a greater range between the whitest white and the blackest black. We're looking at increasing resolution to 4k resolution. We're also going to be bringing out a "ghost-busting" solution. That's a technology that will allow electronic manipulation of an image through our image enhancer to reduce that double image that you sometimes see when you're watching 3D—when one eye's image bleeds into the other's.
 
I saw it tonight and loved it.
The plot was more predictable than I thought it'd be and the visuals were much more amazing than I anticipated. The acting/voice-acting was superb. The chick's screams really conveyed her anguish.
 
Scullibundo said:
So guys, considering how dangerous Pandora is to humans, how long do you think Pandora would last against Dutch?

But would it be just Dutch alone, or Dutch and his whole crew. Remember, Dutch had his boys to back him up all the way until the end. At that point he had a good idea what he was up against.
 
PhoncipleBone said:
But would it be just Dutch alone, or Dutch and his whole crew. Remember, Dutch had his boys to back him up all the way until the end. At that point he had a good idea what he was up against.

Dutch's crew was awesome, but also slowed Dutch down. Dutch needs no crew.
 
What are the odds of the 4-hour cut (assuming all is rendered) hitting theatres, probably in a limited release eventually?

Ooooh just the thought gives me warm fuzzy feelings. :D
 
Just saw this movie and man was I disappointed. Story was extremely generic, which is fine if you have interesting characters, good acting ect. but I feel that the movie lacked all of those with the exception of Sigourney Weaver. And despite the movie being 3 hours long, it did not do a very good job of explaining itself. Did they explain how the Avatar process worked?? How did they transfer their minds and then control them remotely? Many of the events or plot points did not seem to make sense in the context of the universe. It seems like they just threw a bunch of random shit into it with no plan whatsoever. Floating mountains??? sure. Nerves wrapped in a ponytail?? why not. Also many of the creature designs seemed to follow the pattern of "lets take an earth animal and throw an extra pair of legs or eyes on them". I need to watch it in 2d. The 3d seemed extremely blurry still and made it hard for me to discern what the hell was going on half the time.
 
All that IMAX talk makes me sad :/ I live in stone age Germany and even though we have over a dozen IMAX screens, only one shows movies instead of IMAX documentaries D:

At least it seems like the cinemas around here have installed 4k RealD projectors for 3D movies, so I´ll see Avatar early next year in 3D, now that my left eye is working again. Huzzah!
 
I live in eastern Germany and I can say that those dozens of Imax theatres are probably in the western part of our country. :lol RealD was awesome, though!
 
Just saw this movie and FFUUUUUU it was awesome!

Also can't believe the crowds. I saw it in the afternoon on a Tuesday and it was incredibly packed. Speaking to the ticket operator, apparently every single session has been almost selling out. The theatres must be loving it.
 
Rezbit said:
Just saw this movie and FFUUUUUU it was awesome!

Also can't believe the crowds. I saw it in the afternoon on a Tuesday and it was incredibly packed. Speaking to the ticket operator, apparently every single session has been almost selling out. The theatres must be loving it.
That's crazy. The crowd report thread over at the boxofficemojo forums are saying the same thing - nearly full showings during the day on Monday.
 
J2 Cool said:
.Imax .. and looking outside of where your focus was intended really caused strain on the eyes. The image was huge, .

I'm so glad I am not the only one that feels this way. IMAX is too big. I hate having to turn my head (slightly) to scan the entire screen. Very uncomfortable.
 
DieNgamers said:
I live in eastern Germany and I can say that those dozens of Imax theatres are probably in the western part of our country. :lol RealD was awesome, though!

Hm, looks like quite a lot closed, actually, but yeah, right now 5 are in the South-West and one in Berlin.

I do have something like Pandora withdrawal syndrom, to add to that discussion. I had a lot of "aaaw" moments in the movie. Those rotating insects, the mimosa like plants, Pandora at night, so good.

Probably wouldn´t be the case if Cameron had showed the djungle as deadly as it was supposed to be. That reminds me, had they gone with the "no plants on earth" idea, that´d explain quite a bit of it´s deadliness. Drop a few city kids in a rainforest and watch them die from infections or touching poisonous plants :lol
 
People asked what Ubisoft did in Avatar... I'm not sure if this was all but, according to Cinefex, and I quote: "Hybride in Montreal developed another set of graphics for link room sequences, and also extended link room sets for 114 shots."
 
I just came back from the theater, and right now i feel like this was my best cinema experience of the decade. I walked in with pretty low expectations, and was completely blown away. I didn't care much for the trailer, and even though i followed Avatars progress from time to time over the last years, i never got the feeling that this movie would be a great sucess. I even had a couple of good laughs when i read the OT thread about Avatar. I thought that no movie could possibly live up to that amount of hype, and like many others i believed the project would fail financially. Now i know that i never should have questioned Camerons ability to create an immersive experience. Avatar is the first 3d movie i have seen in theaters, and the technology was really impressive. The scenes that impressed me the most was the nighttime scenes, and the scenes from the control room. The computer interference was amazing in 3D, and anything made of glass was almost unreal. The next movie i watch in 3d have a lot to live up to, because Avatar was unique despite its flaws.
 
Scullibundo said:
So long as they get the upgrades in time for Battle Angel (which of course they will), I'll be happy.

Its going to be a hard wait till the announcement of Cameron's next project,
let alone the project itself. I know I will cry when he confirms The Dive.

It's like he thinks he's immortal or something. =/
 
Our local cinema is booked out for almost every evening showing in the next few days. Only a few single seats left. I've never seen that. :O Even when the new StarWars or LotR films came out there weren't too many people in the cinema.
 
Dunno if this was posted before but here's an about 22 mins interview with Joe Letteri from Weta Digital. I'm just watching the 1st part and I like how the interviewer mentions my favorite scene (
Ney'tiri holding Jake at the end
) near the beginning as the perfect example of a CG character coming off as completely real in both look and emotion display. :)

http://blogs.indiewire.com/thompsononhollywood/2009/12/23/avatars_vfx_master_weta_digitals_joe_letteri/

Snaku said:
It's like he thinks he's immortal or something. =/

I'm actually worried that something might happen to JC. He's IMPORTANT. :S
 
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