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syllogism said:
It's not going to be close at all for the weekend, but Eli will likely be #1 on Friday
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Correct...Eli got #1 Friday but will lose the weekend to Avatar. Eli should stay flat today or rise/drop just a little however Avatar will probably go up anywhere from 60-80% today and do 18-20m today alone. Avatar will do 40 for the 3 day and 50ish for the 4 day. It then will only need 100m by the end of Jan. (though it has all of feb also but itd be awesome to do it by end of this month) To beat titanic which it could do.
 
Somnia said:
Correct...Eli got #1 Friday but will lose the weekend to Avatar. Eli should stay flat today or rise/drop just a little however Avatar will probably go up anywhere from 60-80% today and do 18-20m today alone. Avatar will do 40 for the 3 day and 50ish for the 4 day. It then will only need 100m by the end of Jan. (though it has all of feb also but itd be awesome to do it by end of this month) To beat titanic which it could do.
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Yup. Avatar was down 22% from last Friday - weekend should be ~$40m, the 4-day over $50m.

1. Book Of Eli (Alcon/Warner Bros) NEW [3,111 Theaters]
Friday $11.7M, Est 4-Day Weekend $35M
2. Avatar (Fox) Week 5 [3,285 Theaters]
Friday $10.5M, Est 4-Day Weekend $50M, Est Cume $500M

http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/b...ekend-teen-girls-turn-out-for-3-lovely-bones/

Looks like Eli could end up with a nice sized opening haul, and it knocked off Avatar for a day. Yay for Gary. :D
 
Oh, and as of yesterday Avatar started tracking ahead of TDK; it's $1.3m ahead of where TDK was on the same day in its run. Avatar was behind by over $100m at one point.

It's tracking to well over $600m at this pace.
 
jett said:
And are you really that dense that you can't understand what I was joking around with Solo? Even if the official subtitles in BD/DVD have it as Ma', he implied he won't give a rat's ass and will still pretend it's "my". :P So I considered that a preemptive acceptance of defeat! :P
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Hardly. Unless Cameron himself did the translations and subs, which obviously he didnt, then "ma'Jake" is complete and utter nonsense.
 
GhaleonEB said:
Oh, and as of yesterday Avatar started tracking ahead of TDK; it's $1.3m ahead of where TDK was on the same day in its run. Avatar was behind by over $100m at one point.

It's tracking to well over $600m at this pace.
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I feel sharp pains all over. I think DM must be pricking his Solo voodoo doll right now
 
PhoncipleBone said:
That sounds like a diss to me. I am just waiting for my Blu Ray to arrive to see it myself.
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It's an awesome action movie to me. I don't know if I would qualify it as "brilliant art". :P
 
Jesus Christ, what have you done Cameron

I was just talking to my Mother a while ago and she mentioned that she wanted to see the movie again, wtf! :lol
 
Dead said:
Jesus Christ, what have you done Cameron

I was just talking to my Mother a while ago and she mentioned that she wanted to see the movie again, wtf! :lol
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Blame Jimmy and his strategic Oprah appearance.

EDIT: Great minds, Ghal.
 
Saw this movie yesterday. I went in extremely skeptical (I usually do).

My consensus:

Excellent visual work. Much of the time I couldn't tell what was real and what was CGI, outside of the obvious stuff of course. There was some weird mixes of real people with CGI that looked unnatural but that's to be expected I suppose.

The story was the downfall in my opinion.
My biggest complaint is with Jake's character. Why is he concerned with killing the natives, but he doesn't mind brutally killing hundreds of humans? I realize that they tried to get the point across that they tried to find a diplomatic solution or whatever. But I still don't see how that excuses such a weird twist in character. Obviously this movie is mainly about the Na'vi (sp?), but Jake's character just doesn't add up. Apparently 3 months means more than a lifetime? I also thought was weird that they threw in that stuff about the Earth being in trouble. Why didn't they develop that more? And what good came from sending those people back? They make it out like they were sending them back to help out.


Outside of that drawn out over analytical paragraph, I just had problems with the little things in the movie. The biggest being that it was just predictable. I have a weird habbit of predicting the turns a movie will take. Usually I'm wrong, since most movies throw in unexplainable plot twists. Avatar was nearly right on target with my guesses though. Maybe it's not a bad thing, but I just left feeling a little bummed.

On the positive side the move was entertaining, which is enough of a reason to see it either way. The action sequences were good. So yeah.

Overall I'd recommend seeing it, if only for the pure visual appeal. It's an entertaining two and a half hours, and one of the better sci-fi movies I've seen in awhile. Just don't expect much from the story.
 
Oli said:
Saw this movie yesterday. I went in extremely skeptical (I usually do).

My consensus:

Excellent visual work. Much of the time I couldn't tell what was real and what was CGI, outside of the obvious stuff of course. There was some weird mixes of real people with CGI that looked unnatural but that's to be expected I suppose.

The story was the downfall in my opinion.
My biggest complaint is with Jake's character. Why is he concerned with killing the natives, but he doesn't mind brutally killing hundreds of humans? I realize that they tried to get the point across that they tried to find a diplomatic solution or whatever. But I still don't see how that excuses such a weird twist in character. Obviously this movie is mainly about the Na'vi (sp?), but Jake's character just doesn't add up. Apparently 3 months means more than a lifetime? I also thought was weird that they threw in that stuff about the Earth being in trouble. Why didn't they develop that more? And what good came from sending those people back? They make it out like they were sending them back to help out.


Outside of that drawn out over analytical paragraph, I just had problems with the little things in the movie. The biggest being that it was just predictable. I have a weird habbit of predicting the turns a movie will take. Usually I'm wrong, since most movies throw in unexplainable plot twists. Avatar was nearly right on target with my guesses though. Maybe it's not a bad thing, but I just left feeling a little bummed.

On the positive side the move was entertaining, which is enough of a reason to see it either way. The action sequences were good. So yeah.

Overall I'd recommend seeing it, if only for the pure visual appeal. It's an entertaining two and a half hours, and one of the better sci-fi movies I've seen in awhile. Just don't expect much from the story.
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The 'soldiers' in the movie are mercenaries. They're only motivations is money and maybe killing a few things. It's black and white, but it works.
 
Oli said:
Saw this movie yesterday. I went in extremely skeptical (I usually do).

My consensus:

Excellent visual work. Much of the time I couldn't tell what was real and what was CGI, outside of the obvious stuff of course. There was some weird mixes of real people with CGI that looked unnatural but that's to be expected I suppose.

The story was the downfall in my opinion.
My biggest complaint is with Jake's character. Why is he concerned with killing the natives, but he doesn't mind brutally killing hundreds of humans? I realize that they tried to get the point across that they tried to find a diplomatic solution or whatever. But I still don't see how that excuses such a weird twist in character. Obviously this movie is mainly about the Na'vi (sp?), but Jake's character just doesn't add up. Apparently 3 months means more than a lifetime? I also thought was weird that they threw in that stuff about the Earth being in trouble. Why didn't they develop that more? And what good came from sending those people back? They make it out like they were sending them back to help out.


Outside of that drawn out over analytical paragraph, I just had problems with the little things in the movie. The biggest being that it was just predictable. I have a weird habbit of predicting the turns a movie will take. Usually I'm wrong, since most movies throw in unexplainable plot twists. Avatar was nearly right on target with my guesses though. Maybe it's not a bad thing, but I just left feeling a little bummed.

On the positive side the move was entertaining, which is enough of a reason to see it either way. The action sequences were good. So yeah.

Overall I'd recommend seeing it, if only for the pure visual appeal. It's an entertaining two and a half hours, and one of the better sci-fi movies I've seen in awhile. Just don't expect much from the story.
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The Naa'vi were innocent. The humans were the aggressors. It's pretty simple.
 
Dabookerman said:
I dunno guys. When I watched Hurt Locker, I thought it was based on Modern Warfare.
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:lol :lol I liked the movie a lot, but it's by no means a "Best Picture". It was ruined, by the douche lead character, and the shitty ending!
 
Solo said:
Hardly. Unless Cameron himself did the translations and subs, which obviously he didnt, then "ma'Jake" is complete and utter nonsense.
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Eh? It's just a na'vi petname for Jake, ma' being a na'vi prefix of sorts, and it's used more than once by Neytiri. How is that nonsense? To me it's "my jake" that doesn't make sense, Neytiri speaks and pronounces nearly perfect English throughout the movie and suddenly she develops a caveman-like speech pattern? :P "My Jake" is just a weird thing to say, weirder even to use multiple times.

There's really no point in continuing this, you've convinced yourself that you're correct no matter what.
 
jett said:
Eh? It's just a na'vi petname for Jake, ma' being a na'vi prefix of sorts, and it's used more than once by Neytiri. How is that nonsense? To me it's "my jake" that doesn't make sense, Neytiri speaks and pronounces nearly perfect English throughout the movie and suddenly she develops a caveman-like speech pattern? :P "My Jake" is just a weird thing to say, weirder even to use multiple times.

There's really no point in continuing this, you've convinced yourself that you're correct no matter what.
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See, I think you're onto something with the origin of the phrase. I also think it has to do with an affectionate modifier stemming from her language. So I agree with you on that point.

And, she clearly says "my Jake".
 
Scullibundo said:
jett, you do realise that you're the only one here that thinks its ma'jake?
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I don't care if I am. :P Most gaffers are american and haven't seen the movie subtitled.

And the sound that comes out of her mouth is not "my".
 
Snytbaggen2 said:
He's not. The subs here said ma'jake and from what I've heard other countries subs did too.
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That's because there is only ONE english sub track. Why would they make more than one for the release? It doesn't matter what country its being dubbed in, the english subs will always be from the same track.

The point is that it is clearly not what she says and had jett not seen that subtitle reading, I doubt he would say the same thing.
 
Scullibundo said:
That's because there is only ONE english sub track. Why would they make more than one for the release? It doesn't matter what country its being dubbed in, the english subs will always be from the same track.

The point is that it is clearly not what she says and had jett not seen that subtitle reading, I doubt he would say the same thing.
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I don't want to get in a long argument over this, so I'll just write this and be finished with it. I made some quick searches in the script after "my jake", "ma jake" and "ma'jake". None of them gave any results, so I guess those lines were added after the script was written and therefor we can't really know for sure. But, now on to the subs. I only used the subtitles as confirmation to what I heard, and it both sounded like "ma'jake" to me and that's also what I read. The subs was spot-on with other strange na'vi words when compared to the script, so IMO that further strengthens that the subs are correct. But since we don't have an official spelling everyone is free to believe what they want.
 
Snytbaggen2 said:
I don't want to get in a long argument over this, so I'll just write this and be finished with it. I made some quick searches in the script after "my jake", "ma jake" and "ma'jake". None of them gave any results, so I guess those lines were added after the script was written and therefor we can't really know for sure. But, now on to the subs. I only used the subtitles as confirmation to what I heard, and it both sounded like "ma'jake" to me and that's also what I read. The subs was spot-on with other strange na'vi words when compared to the script, so IMO that further strengthens that the subs are correct. But since we don't have an official spelling everyone is free to believe what they want.
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Has anyone studied enough Na'vi langauge to know what ma' means as a prefix if it does exist in the language?

I'm thinking If it does have some sort of meaning, then jett may be right. I'm not sure why so many of you are adamant that the subtitles are nonsensical garbage.

EDIT: ma' seems to be a prefix used when addressing someone, something, or a group directly. For example, Neytiri says ma'Tsu'tey when asking "What are you doing, Tsu'tey?" when he first appears, and there are many other instances where it is used in this in way the movie.

Sorry guys, I believe jett is right.
 
Snytbaggen2 said:
I don't want to get in a long argument over this, so I'll just write this and be finished with it. I made some quick searches in the script after "my jake", "ma jake" and "ma'jake". None of them gave any results, so I guess those lines were added after the script was written and therefor we can't really know for sure. But, now on to the subs. I only used the subtitles as confirmation to what I heard, and it both sounded like "ma'jake" to me and that's also what I read. The subs was spot-on with other strange na'vi words when compared to the script, so IMO that further strengthens that the subs are correct. But since we don't have an official spelling everyone is free to believe what they want.
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Yeah. None of the tree lines that have it is actually in the script nor the treatment. Cameron is messing with our heads :D
 
hirokazu said:
Has anyone studied enough Na'vi langauge to know what ma' means as a prefix if it does exist in the language?

I'm thinking If it does have some sort of meaning, then jett may be right. I'm not sure why so many of you are adamant that the subtitles are nonsensical garbage.

EDIT: ma' seems to be a prefix used when addressing someone, something, or a group directly. For example, Neytiri says ma'Tsu'tey when asking "What are you doing, Tsu'tey?" when he first appears, and there are many other instances where it is used in this in way the movie.

Sorry guys, I believe jett is right.
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Just checked, he's right! Now even Avatar believers are eating crow.

Others including me thought that it was ma'jake for weeks now.
 
hirokazu said:
Has anyone studied enough Na'vi langauge to know what ma' means as a prefix if it does exist in the language?

I'm thinking If it does have some sort of meaning, then jett may be right. I'm not sure why so many of you are adamant that the subtitles are nonsensical garbage.

EDIT: ma' seems to be a prefix used when addressing someone, something, or a group directly. For example, Neytiri says ma'Tsu'tey when asking "What are you doing, Tsu'tey?" when he first appears, and there are many other instances where it is used in this in way the movie.

Sorry guys, I believe jett is right.
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