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Rottenwatch: AVATAR (82%)
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Finally got round to seeing it, and apart from the visuals I honestly can't understand what the fuss is about.
The 3D and CGI were easily the best I've seen in a film, especially the use of 3D. It was using it properly, not as a gimmick, and had a lot of very nice shots. However after 45 minutes of it the visuals on their own weren't enough to hold my attention, and over the rest of the film I found myself getting more and more bored with it.
Barely any story, totally predictable, as subtle as a brick with it's message, terrible main villain, lots of corny dialog, and waaaay too long.
As science-fiction goes District 9 wipes the floor with it, and makes it's point about human behaviour far better as well.
The visuals may have been in 3D, but everything else about Avatar was decidedly flat.
The 3D and CGI were easily the best I've seen in a film, especially the use of 3D. It was using it properly, not as a gimmick, and had a lot of very nice shots. However after 45 minutes of it the visuals on their own weren't enough to hold my attention, and over the rest of the film I found myself getting more and more bored with it.
Barely any story, totally predictable, as subtle as a brick with it's message, terrible main villain, lots of corny dialog, and waaaay too long.
As science-fiction goes District 9 wipes the floor with it, and makes it's point about human behaviour far better as well.
The visuals may have been in 3D, but everything else about Avatar was decidedly flat.
Hey guys, sorry for the question but I've been out of the loop for a while.
About the extended version, will we know Jake is on a wheelchair from the start?
Because I really enjoy how -if you know nothing about the movie- you only find that out once he lands on Pandora.
And is there a date for a DVD or Blu Ray release?
About the extended version, will we know Jake is on a wheelchair from the start?
Because I really enjoy how -if you know nothing about the movie- you only find that out once he lands on Pandora.
And is there a date for a DVD or Blu Ray release?
PhoncipleBone
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KingGondo said:
Deck'ard is a replicant!
Foliorum Viridum
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Seeing this at LAST in 3D on Sunday. Fuckkk yeahhh. I really liked it in 2D, so hopefully it will be as impressive in 3D as people have claimed. 
... Better fucking be for £10 ...
... Better fucking be for £10 ...
Naked Snake
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I've resisted watching Avatar all this time, but unfortunately caved in yesterday and went to see it. I wish I didn't.
The visuals might have been great, but the 3D glasses ruined them for me. I think the theater used one of the cheaper 3D methods (polarized glasses?) and it looked just like those stereoscopic flipbooks that you had to cross your eyes to see the image pop, except here you didn't have to cross your eyes. And the image was very dim, I'd have much preferred watching it in lush and vibrant 2D. I was seriously contemplating walking out early on and demanding a refund, but I stuck it out.
I hated the plot too, I thought a lot of the "science fiction" was too far fetched and felt more like fantasy than science. And I hated the religious/spirituality themes.
The sex scene was almost uncomfortable, I thought I was looking at some furry fan-art on 4chan. Me and other people in the theater laughed during that scene.
The climactic battle sequence was awesome.
I'm a huge fan of all James Cameron's film, yes including Titanic. But I felt robbed with Avatar. I won't be seeing Avatar 2.
The visuals might have been great, but the 3D glasses ruined them for me. I think the theater used one of the cheaper 3D methods (polarized glasses?) and it looked just like those stereoscopic flipbooks that you had to cross your eyes to see the image pop, except here you didn't have to cross your eyes. And the image was very dim, I'd have much preferred watching it in lush and vibrant 2D. I was seriously contemplating walking out early on and demanding a refund, but I stuck it out.
I hated the plot too, I thought a lot of the "science fiction" was too far fetched and felt more like fantasy than science. And I hated the religious/spirituality themes.
The sex scene was almost uncomfortable, I thought I was looking at some furry fan-art on 4chan. Me and other people in the theater laughed during that scene.
The climactic battle sequence was awesome.
I'm a huge fan of all James Cameron's film, yes including Titanic. But I felt robbed with Avatar. I won't be seeing Avatar 2.
Naked Snake said:
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/43440
Read this to show that most of the science was not far fetched at all. Make sure not to miss the addition he added at the end after seeing the film again and reading up on it.
Naked Snake
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Somnia said:
Interesting read. My biggest pet peeve was the floating mountains, and he had the biggest issue with them too.
Joel David Moore is on board with a sequel.
http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1630715/story.jhtml
http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1630715/story.jhtml
â Narayan
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Shit.
Going to see this for a fifth time tonight. :lol
Going to see this for a fifth time tonight. :lol
Count Dookkake
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GhaleonEB said:
It's good he's back on board.
Bravo. :lolCount Dookkake said:
Random box office update:
Domestic: $561,317,325
+ Foreign: $1,336,042,345
= Worldwide: $1,897,359,670
Will hit $1.9b tomorrow, and blow past $2b by the weekend. It's been eerily steady all week.
Code:
Day Domestic International Total
Monday 3,240,192 16,519,685 19,759,877
Tuesday 3,198,046 16,265,755 19,463,801
Wed. 3,137,588 16,196,083 19,333,671
Total 9,575,826 48,981,523 58,557,349ryutaro's mama
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GhaleonEB said:
40 million to go...
ryutaro's mama said:40 million to go...
Looks like my Feb. 3rd guess awhile back might just be right, but I also may have overshot it by 1 day...we shall see. I'm seeing a -15% this weekend which is a bit better than normal, but this will be the first weekend since it's release where there is no significant football game on Sunday also which should help its Sunday numbers more than normal.
On a side note...Monday I see my first ever IMAX film
Somnia said:
It takes a while to read through, not finished yet...
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/43440 said:
By whatever means he handles this issue in the movie, somehow a whole bunch of people assume there is no oxygen in the atmosphere and are whining how Jake could ignite a torch, not to mention all those explosions.
He probably could have made it clearer those masks are not used to supply oxygen, but to filter out other lethal gas..
(Flame does not always require oxygen though)
SCULLIBUNDO
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I think I'm happier he left it up to common sense. Think about what might be missing from Pandora's surface without oxygen.
I'm pretty sure he corrects himself in his addition at the bottom of the page regarding oxygen and breathing on pandora, but I'd have to re-read it. He talks about how most of his early issues with the science are all thought of by Cameron and co. and he appreciates how much thought they put into it.
Snytbaggen
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Not really. It's a superconcuctor, and when it's in a strong magnetic field it floats. When you remove it from the magnetic field it's just a regular rock, but superconducting.Puddles said:
Snytbaggen
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Yeah, they mention that their instruments don't work because of some magnetic vortex or something at the mountainsPuddles said:
I thought the floating mountains were sufficiently explained for a science fiction film. Well in the film itself, they didn't even attempt to explain it much, but they do explain the unobtanium and magnetic field on Pandora itself as well as the magnetic flux between Pandora and whatever planet it orbited.Naked Snake said:
SCULLIBUNDO
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Metroid Killer
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Doubledex said:
True. Thankfully only one out of four times some stupid little punks started to talk/laugh during the movie and were verbally demolished by an angry middle aged woman :lol
The floating mountains I could buy, because it was very clear that there was Unobtainium AND a strong magnetic field. Errosion shifting the rock to Unobtainium rate until chunks break of and float, only held back by those gigantic vines. Otherwise they´d float up, drop down and bounce up again. OR crash.
What was really iffy was the Avatar programm itself, IMO. Yes, I could buy that they can send the massive data streams needed to control a body around the enviroment (200 muscles are invovled in every step a human takes, for example), but over several kilometres and quick enough that Jake can fight an expert warrior (Tsu´tey) or run from a Thanator? All living beings already suffer from "input lag" from their limbs to their brain without a W-LAN in between. Or is the whole consciousness transported into the Avatar, using its brain for decision making and though, leaving the human body behind as a vegetable?
And I´ll need to see this a fifth time
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