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Bit-Bit said:
I think in an interview Langley mentions that the company has Quaritch DNA. So they can bring him back as a clone.

I want them to bring him back as a half cyborg whose height and prowess matches that of a Navi.

He gets reprogrammed and protects Jake. Then Arnold comes in and destroys him.

That last part was a joke.....sorta.
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Perhaps they'll just make a regular Avatar of him, and Eywa somehow uploads his old memories?
 
Sigourney Weaver better be back. It's fucking Ripley you guys. Ripley.
 
Veidt said:
Sigourney Weaver better be back. It's fucking Ripley you guys. Ripley.
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Maybe... SHE BECOMES EYWA
Edit: Gasp! Now that I think about it... Maybe she was somehow responsible for sending the animals to attack the RDA?
 
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bwhahaha
What the hell have you people been smoking down there? They're just goddam trees!
 
Veidt said:
Sigourney Weaver better be back. It's fucking Ripley you guys. Ripley.
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They could clone her, after seven failed attempts where she just comes out as a horribly mutated tree. The eighth has a tree baby cut out of her. She bleeds sap when hit in the face with a barbell. Here's the kicker, the tree baby is in fact a tree queen - with a human reproductive system.

Credits.
 
Solo said:
He did 2 appearances each around an hour in length. One just before release, and one after it had become the highest grossing movie of all time. Both are great. Cameron is shockingly humble about Avatar becoming the highest grossing film in the second one.

They were both up in their entirety on Charlie Rose's site as of February, but I have no clue if they are now.
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Thanks, listening right now, they're comparing Cameron to Lucas and Kubrick right now, wow. Three film makers I'd never put together.
 
StuBurns said:
What is the Charlie Rose interview he cited? I found three minutes on YouTube, I guess that's not all of it?

In that he was talking Avatar being his most personal film in terms of it's theme, but the theme of Titanic is almost exactly the same as Avatar. That being that the memories of prior generations, their stories, are of greater value than the physical things that encase them, Experience > Token essentially. Which seems fairly transparent for someone who makes a living telling stories that millions consume.
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Charlie Rose interview is here:

http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/10866

One of the best Cameron interviews ever.
 
I would much rather see a James Cameron Star Wars than Lucas. I almost feel like Star Wars A New Hope was good by some strange miracle. The man has clearly lost it, if he ever even had it ....
 
JB1981 said:
I would much rather see a James Cameron Star Wars than Lucas. I almost feel like Star Wars A New Hope was good by some strange miracle. The man has clearly lost it, if he ever even had it ....
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I don't like Star Wars, I didn't get to watch it when it came out, I'm too young, so it's hard for me to see what was so ground breaking about it. American Graffiti is okay though.
 
I had to laugh. I ordered that Making of Avatar book from Amazon and I just got the e-mail that it has shipped out of Coffeyville, Kansas. So my book is literally "not in Kansas anymore" :lol
 
Solo said:
I had to laugh. I ordered that Making of Avatar book from Amazon and I just got the e-mail that it has shipped out of Coffeyville, Kansas. So my book is literally "not in Kansas anymore" :lol
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:lol
 
Solo said:
I had to laugh. I ordered that Making of Avatar book from Amazon and I just got the e-mail that it has shipped out of Coffeyville, Kansas. So my book is literally "not in Kansas anymore" :lol
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StuBurns said:
I don't like Star Wars, I didn't get to watch it when it came out, I'm too young, so it's hard for me to see what was so ground breaking about it. American Graffiti is okay though.
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If you adjust for inflation A New Hope grossed about as much as Avatar did.
 
Scullibundo said:
Watched Aliens two nights ago at my friends place. It was the theatrical cut. I don't understand how anybody can go back to the theatrical cut after the Special Edition.
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The theatrical edition is a decent popcorn flick.

The special edition is a damn good film.
 
I think I need to watch the theatrical cut of Aliens. The special edition spent too much time on forcing a motivation for Ripley's maternal instinct, and on highlighting a group of shitty 1-dimensional marine characters. The theatrical cut sounds like a leaner movie.
 
jett said:
Exclusive footage from one of the deleted scenes in the Avatar Collector's edition:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stVVxuasOQk

The quality of the template stuff is so low I have no idea if that's supposed to be Jake and Neytiri. :lol
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Aww, I actually would have liked to see that in the ending montage, except with the Jake/Neytiri bit at the end cut out obviously

Man, the Dreamhunt will be insanely trippy with those visuals :lol

I like how Cameron included the deleted scenes within the context of the movie by editing them how they would have appeared. Nice touch. Thats why the Deleted Scenes total ~68 minutes. Theres ~45 minutes of actual deleted content, and then ~13 minutes of lead in/out scenes
 
While on the topic of DERP

Kubrick actually shared with Cameron concepts for A.I. and was even interested in having Digital Domain (at the time owned by Cameron iirc) participate in making the film:

Though it was reportedly well received, Kubrick was keeping his options open. In the summer of 1994, James Cameron flew to England when Kubrick asked the younger filmmaker to show him True Lies. "I was really honored, 'Oooh, Stanley Kubrick wants to see my movie!'" remembers Cameron. "But it turns out that he does this with everybody. He's like a brain vampire. He likes to get people and suck what they're doing out of their heads." The two viewed the film on an editing machine at Kubrick's home and talked about the effects shot by shot.

As for AI, Cameron reports that "Kubrick was interested in Digital Domain, passingly, to do some visual effects, and he showed me some of the artwork for AI. There was a lot of water interaction stuff - very difficult." But beyond that, Cameron is as tight-lipped as Kubrick. "It's his movie," says Cameron. "He can talk about it if he wants to."
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http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/5.01/ffai_pr.html

Never knew about that
 
CaptYamato said:
Cameron is beyond those two hacks.
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That hurts quite a bit.

I actually think all of Cameron's films are good, I don't think that about Kubrick, but 2001 is probably the greatest film ever and Dr Strangelove is probably the best comedy ever, Lolita is probably the best romance ever and The Shining is probably the best horror ever. And the first half of Full Metal Jacket is a masterpiece.

Cameron might be the best commercial action director working today, but I would say the gulf between him and Kubrick is still fairly monstrous.
 
Scullibundo said:
Yeah it is, glad it was cut. Wish they had kept the shot of the ISV leaving Pandora. Epic.
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Agree, I'd have liked to see the ship's departure. If only because the ship was fuck-awesome in design and we only saw it briefly during the intro; its departure would have been a nice parallel to the dino flying away. The rest of the "New Life" scene was better cut.
 
StuBurns said:
That hurts quite a bit.

I actually think all of Cameron's films are good, I don't think that about Kubrick, but 2001 is probably the greatest film ever and Dr Strangelove is probably the best comedy ever, Lolita is probably the best romance ever and The Shining is probably the best horror ever. And the first half of Full Metal Jacket is a masterpiece.

Cameron might be the best commercial action director working today, but I would say the gulf between him and Kubrick is still fairly monstrous.
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Cameron can match Kubrick in technical ingenuity and ambition (maybe even surpass him), but that is about it. Kubrick is leagues ahead when it comes down to the creative content and how he engages the audience.
 
That's always been Cameron's wheelhouse really, he has an incredible sense of exactly how far one can aim ahead in terms of technology. So far he has avoided overreaching every time. It's easy to go crazy and try something super forward thinking like Beowolf, and have it be a fucking mess, or stay with the pack and keep safe, Cameron has been consistently able to do more than anyone successfully. He also has great taste when it comes to what effects are truly effective. And doesn't seem to use anything that stands out as dated in any of this old films. T2 still looks incredible to me, the effects are technologically out of date, but they were used with such taste and care they are perfectly watchable today.
 
Kubrick's ahead of pretty much EVERYBODY when it comes to... well, pretty much every artistic category. There are those who tread closely to him (Scorsese in his younger days, Kurosawa, Ozu, the younger Francis Ford Coppola, etc.), and it goes without saying that not every film was a masterpiece; however, he simply had more vision and artistic gravitas than pretty much any other filmmaker that I can imagine. If you can find fault in 2001, you're a greater man than I.
 
Snowman Prophet of Doom said:
Kubrick's ahead of pretty much EVERYBODY when it comes to... well, pretty much every artistic category. There are those who tread closely to him (Scorsese in his younger days, Kurosawa, Ozu, the younger Francis Ford Coppola, etc.), and it goes without saying that not every film was a masterpiece; however, he simply had more vision and artistic gravitas than pretty much any other filmmaker that I can imagine. If you can find fault in 2001, you're a greater man than I.
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When she picks the pen off the glass you can see her have to exert force to dislodge it.
 
Snowman Prophet of Doom said:
Kubrick's ahead of pretty much EVERYBODY when it comes to... well, pretty much every artistic category. There are those who tread closely to him (Scorsese in his younger days, Kurosawa, Ozu, the younger Francis Ford Coppola, etc.), and it goes without saying that not every film was a masterpiece; however, he simply had more vision and artistic gravitas than pretty much any other filmmaker that I can imagine. If you can find fault in 2001, you're a greater man than I.
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I'll agree if you take out Kurosawa, He and only he is the master.
 
Snowman Prophet of Doom said:
Kubrick's ahead of pretty much EVERYBODY when it comes to... well, pretty much every artistic category. There are those who tread closely to him (Scorsese in his younger days, Kurosawa, Ozu, the younger Francis Ford Coppola, etc.), and it goes without saying that not every film was a masterpiece; however, he simply had more vision and artistic gravitas than pretty much any other filmmaker that I can imagine. If you can find fault in 2001, you're a greater man than I.
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All of the above mentioned directors had a certain style, but what I personally believe that made Kubrick a notch above the rest is how versatile he was.

His work just speaks for itself - he could make a taut war drama (Paths of glory), a three-hour long period character study (Barry Lyndon) and a completely out there sci-fi film with bare minimum dialogue (2001).
 
Producer Jon Landau cleared up some plot setting rumors regarding “Avatar 2” with Empire Magazine.

In the interview, he addressed the rumors about the sequel either taking place in the oceans of Pandara or on other planets.

“Water will be a part of the movie, but it won’t be all the movie,” said Landau. “There’s a lot of rumors that it’s an underwater movie – it’s not. Just like the Floating Mountains, and the Na’vi’s interaction with the mountains, were a part of ‘Avatar,’ it’ll be the same thing.”

He continued, “I think the next movie will stay on Pandora. That’d be my guess. Not all the answers are there yet, but I think we’re happy with Pandora.”

Director James Cameron will begin production on “Avatar 2” next year.
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http://www.latinoreview.com/news/jon-landau-answers-rumors-about-avatar-2-11710

Haven't been able to get a hold of this Empire yet. Really want it for the Tintin stuff.
 
FYI, best deal in the states for the Blu Ray set of doom next week is at Target. $24.99.
Best Buy has it for $29.99, but they should price match. Amazon has it for $24.99 at the moment as well.
 
I figure that after the $2 Billion mark, Cameron decided that a regular Blu-Ray case won't cut it anymore. The Titanic CE DVD was sorta similar :lol
 
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