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[Astray]

A very significant percentage of the COD fanbase tuned in to the COD gameplay reveal and deep dive. Even more watched it on YouTube later. Either group saw it being advertised on GP day one.

I'm not sure the logic of your argument that a multiplatform Call of Duty was supposed to move Xbox consoles months before release

I'm sure we will see the results soon anyways. I will personally watch the in-store promotion (COD has historically very high in-store activations in my region).

I will stick by my opinion that both the GP addition and this marketing strategy will not prove to be a beneficial one, I am open to changing my mind and admitting I'm wrong tho. No one should be above that IMHO.

 

[Punished Miku]

One of the dumbest threads I've ever seen on this site. I'm impressed.

 

[Mr Moose]

yeah.....I don't get this at all really. How are they not being "allowed" to market Call of Duty?

When Xbox Twitter account is about to click send on Gamepass CoD ad, MS:

One of the dumbest threads I've ever seen on this site. I'm impressed.

Xbox missed their monthly chair deliveries to Parris.

 

[adamsapple]

I guess Xbox YouTube missed the memo? Unless something changed since the reveal?

No, it's just a silly claim, the game pass branding is front and center in almost all places (outside of places like the PS website of course), even on Activision's official website.

 

[Punished Miku]

Xbox missed their monthly chair deliveries to Parris.

That's even more absurd. Those chairs are on time every month without fail.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

No, it's just a silly claim, the game pass branding is front and center in almost all places (outside of places like the PS website of course), even on Activision's official website.

Only other thing is when the commercials start up will it mention gamepass?

Even if not I think it's been pretty heavily pushed anyhow it's day one on GP

 

[adamsapple]

When Xbox Twitter account is about to click send on Gamepass CoD ad, MS:

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

What a shitshow. Lies through obfuscation. If they don't want people to get the game for "free" on their service, then simply...don't put it in the service Day 1.

This is what happens when you've got too many heads talking at once and no single one taking the absolute lead.

Yes, PlayStation owners and Steam gamers won't buy it and play it on GP instead



Not if the user stays subscribed all year round to play the game every month until the next one shows up.



You were told that Microsoft isn't going to market Call of Duty…and you believed it? Even when there's a beta coming up soon, even with the marketing videos for the Zombies mode they just released?

Have you SEEN the ResetERA Game Pass conversion threads? Just tons of people in there admitting they don't pay full price, have years stacked paid off in reward points, etc.

There's a reason MS have been changing their business strategy over the years. Part of it is because Game Pass hasn't been the big profit generator some people think it is.

 

[UltimaKilo]

[h3][/h3]

Just do your research. Don't trust fanboys.

For the state of gaming, I hope the fanboys are wrong and Microsoft turns it around and starts to blow things it of the water with massive amounts of GP subscriptions and sales. Then hopefully Sony will feel pressure to do something.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

 

[scarlet0pimp]

clearly with a game like CoD its they want to maximse the profit from in and people playing via game pass is not the way.
What they would like to do is still sell 30 million copies and have more people sub to game pass and stick around longer, probably wont happen, I for example normally buy CoD as do 5 or 6 of my online buddies but we all also have game pass and this year I dont think anyone I know will buy CoD. I'm not sure how they intend to monitise people like us perhaps they will try to push us to upgrade to the vault edition, i do normally buy the battlepass too.

 

[Ozriel]

Have you SEEN the ResetERA Game Pass conversion threads? Just tons of people in there admitting they don't pay full price, have years stacked paid off in reward points, etc.

There's a reason MS have been changing their business strategy over the years. Part of it is because Game Pass hasn't been the big profit generator some people think it is.

Only a fraction of players use these, tbh. It's like assuming barely anyone buys things full price because of sites like Slickdeals and HotUkDeals.

What a shitshow. Lies through obfuscation. If they don't want people to get the game for "free" on their service, then simply...don't put it in the service Day 1.

This is what happens when you've got too many heads talking at once and no single one taking the absolute lead.

What led you to believe that Microsoft doesn't want to grow their GamePass subscriber count?

 

[Ozriel]

I'm sure we will see the results soon anyways. I will personally watch the in-store promotion (COD has historically very high in-store activations in my region).

I will stick by my opinion that both the GP addition and this marketing strategy will not prove to be a beneficial one, I am open to changing my mind and admitting I'm wrong tho. No one should be above that IMHO.

Not sure you'll know, anyway, since Black Ops 6 is set to sell very well and you won't be informed about GP Ultimate subscriber numbers.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

clearly with a game like CoD its they want to maximse the profit from in and people playing via game pass is not the way.
What they would like to do is still sell 30 million copies and have more people sub to game pass and stick around longer, probably wont happen, I for example normally buy CoD as do 5 or 6 of my online buddies but we all also have game pass and this year I dont think anyone I know will buy CoD. I'm not sure how they intend to monitise people like us perhaps they will try to push us to upgrade to the vault edition, i do normally buy the battlepass too.

This is the group of initial sales they are losing, those who already have GP and always bought COD

I just wonder how big of the actual sales that number represents since you know Xbox is dead, no one uses GP and everyone hates COD

 

[jroc74]

if you play cod, you will know ms bought them. They have gamepass, which they put their first party day1 there.

There is no need to go all this hoop.

You would be surprised how lil the general public knows about details like this.

Some ppl might not even know this when they see CoD on Game Pass day one.

 

[Mephisto40]

Coming to GamePass day 1*



* Extra subscription to gamepass ultimate required

 

[JackMcGunns]

That really promotes confidence in their service.

Or it really promotes your confidence in this rumor

 

[analog_future]

Or it really promotes your confidence in this rumor

With the people sharing this information, it's more of a leak than a rumor.

 

[StueyDuck]

As always, a bunch of fat basement dwelling nobodies don't know anything about what's happening inside MS.

 

[EverydayBeast]

Microsoft knows game pass is a platform people will exploit it, cod is getting special flavor on Xbox.

 

[FalsettoVibe]

For the state of gaming, I hope the fanboys are wrong and Microsoft turns it around and starts to blow things it of the water with massive amounts of GP subscriptions and sales. Then hopefully Sony will feel pressure to do something.

Why does Sony need to do something though?

Edit:
Well I kinda get what you are saying. But it does not take GP to put pressure on Sony. They just need to pump out the games

 

[UltimaKilo]

Why does Sony need to do something though?

Edit:
Well I kinda get what you are saying. But it does not take GP to put pressure on Sony. They just need to pump out the games

Competition breeds excellence and Sony has been, rather lazy recently. I'm happy Microsoft is [finally] starting to pump out AAA games after years of garbage, but it needs to be enough to make Sony move.

 

[Stafford]

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

it's going to be very interesting when Amy Hood finally sees the massive numbers CoD is going to bring to Microsoft Gaming Division.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

both the GP addition and this marketing strategy will not prove to be a beneficial one

it can't be, because the stakes are way too high. (for MS)

for some consumers will be an exciting event that could last a couple of months. then the hooneymoon period will be over when they realize that is cheaper to buy the game and it's seasons passes or whatever for an entire year.

 

[Little Chicken]

 

[adamsapple]

What an XXL sized fuckup.

 

[Three]

Competition breeds excellence and Sony has been, rather lazy recently. I'm happy Microsoft is [finally] starting to pump out AAA games after years of garbage, but it needs to be enough to make Sony move.

This idea that Sony needs MS to create excellent games needs to die. Games are what drives revenue and what you make profit on. If there is a drought to fill and you can sell to a market that isn't fulfilled it would happen.

 

[Gravemind]

Ah the weekly MS thread were we take something that's obviously made up bullshit from some complete nobody and treat it as fact. Starting the week off strong boys

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Ah the weekly MS thread were we take something that's obviously made up bullshit from some complete nobody and treat it as fact. Starting the week off strong boys

I sure don't consider Parris a complete nobody

For sure a mistake on his part to leave out the supposed "I heard this from other content creators" though

Literally everyone with half a working brain knew better though some in the thread sure took it and ran with it, doom and gloom for gamepass yet again type of scenario

 

[Ozriel]

it can't be, because the stakes are way too high. (for MS)

for some consumers will be an exciting event that could last a couple of months. then the hooneymoon period will be over when they realize that is cheaper to buy the game and it's seasons passes or whatever for an entire year.

More likely many will realize that paying $70 up front and then $10 monthly to play online MP isn't that much of a saving over just paying $20 monthly for access to the game + online multiplayer + other day 1 games.

Either way, doesn't seem like a losing situation for MS. Either it doesn't spur subscriptions and retail sales go up, or subscriptions go up and they still get retail from PS5, Steam and Switch 2.

 

[Jigsaah]

They prefer people to pay full price for the game AND buy the battlepass AND purchase skins.

I mean why do it at all? One game is not going to carry subs for Gamepass...no matter how popular it is. Even GTA VI will not do this alone.

 

[adamsapple]

I sure don't consider Parris a complete nobody

For sure a mistake on his part to leave out the supposed "I heard this from other content creators" though

Literally everyone with half a working brain knew better though some in the thread sure took it and ran with it, doom and gloom for gamepass yet again type of scenario

Yep. Pretty much all the venues where it is advertised, the game is advertised for GP. The claim was debunked before it was even posted, and before it was discovered to be third party hearsay, not even something directly said by anyone at Treyarch.

OP should be updated, or the topic closed.

 

[feynoob]

What an XXL sized fuckup.

Its twitter. Baston of shitty sources. Guess XXL his minutes of fame.

 

[laynelane]

That picture can also be symbolic of the clout-chasing of X 'insiders' - a never ending cycle where you often come off as someone not to be taken seriously lol.

 

[feynoob]

For sure a mistake on his part to leave out the supposed "I heard this from other content creators" though

That wont give him views. People who spend too much on social media crave for those stuff. Plus isnt he a reviewer? Makes sense that he wants to keep his name in the public.

 

[TheHTIC]

They could maybe do better massively marketing console bundles with the game included.

This is the way

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

More likely many will realize that paying $70 up front and then $10 monthly to play online MP isn't that much of a saving over just paying $20 monthly for access to the game + online multiplayer + other day 1 games.

We are going to see and learn about that.

Either way, doesn't seem like a losing situation for MS.

However you want to look at it, MS is losing. Their vision is contradictory.

Either it doesn't spur subscriptions and retail sales go up,

They will not go up; they will be on par with what COD normally does. (generally around 25 million copies +- 5 or 7 million).

or subscriptions go up and they still get retail from PS5, Steam and Switch 2.

If subscriptions go up, MS will lose money for every person who chooses to play Call of Duty on Game Pass instead of buying it, which implies that sales on other consoles and PC will take a hit. (Call of Duty has already reached market saturation.) Therefore, if subscriptions increase, it will be because people from other ecosystems are subscribing to GP

The important factor will be: How many new subscribers Game Pass gets because of CoD? Once they have this number, we are going to see how Microsoft reacts and pivots....again

Microsoft can't have their cake and eat it too. They will either need to commit to a Game Pass future, which requires exclusive games for that platform (though that ship has sailed), or commit fully to being a third-party publisher, with the primary incentive being to make the most money from each game released

Fortunately, we won't have to wait too long to see how the dominoes fall

 

[DenchDeckard]

"I was at treyarch and I heard that every developer eats shit."

A few days later

" wait, I didn't day it was treyarch people saying that, I was just there....it was other people saying that."

 

[Varteras]

Cog and Parris not smart enough to avoid backlash by disclaiming who they didn't hear this from. Shocker.

 

[Deleted member 848825]

The irony with all of this. I've no doubt I'll be getting a huge full page CoD advert when I log into my XSX at some point. For a game I dont give a fuck about.

 

[Skifi28]

The irony with all of this. I've no doubt I'll be getting a huge full page CoD advert when I log into my XSX at some point. For a game I dont give a fuck about.

You are, but you're gonna have to sign an NDA not to tell anyone else.

 

[Deleted member 848825]

You are, but you're gonna have to sign an NDA not to tell anyone else.

For the Ultimate experience (I am subbed), after navigating the full screen CoD interactive advert. Carefully not pressing on the default View in Store button. I'll then likely arrive at my fast food gaming home page:

So for me there's even bigger concerns with MS's advertising, beyond CoD and GP day one. To be fair, I'm more interested in buying a Macky D's than BLOPS 6

 

[Gamerguy84]

I've been under the impression that Sony has advertising rights and this would be advertising.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

I've been under the impression that Sony has advertising rights and this would be advertising.

Parris updated it was just what he heard from other content creators and not anyone that has any real knowledge of whats going on

Personally think XXL should include this update to the original post or a mod should do it for him as new people seeing the thread wont see this update and just run with the thread title

 

[Astray]

it can't be, because the stakes are way too high. (for MS)

for some consumers will be an exciting event that could last a couple of months. then the hooneymoon period will be over when they realize that is cheaper to buy the game and it's seasons passes or whatever for an entire year.

I don't think you can declare such things, there's a big difference between having a hunch and trying to outright predict history before it happens.

There's a possibility that they do better than you and I think. Consumers aren't always logical and economical with their games spending.

Not sure you'll know, anyway, since Black Ops 6 is set to sell very well and you won't be informed about GP Ultimate subscriber numbers.

I think if they get a big bump in GP subs, they will announce it for sure in some way.

Black Ops 6 is going to sell well for sure, I don't think GP will cannibalize sales too much because

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

I don't think you can declare such things, there's a big difference between having a hunch and trying to outright predict history before it happens.

There's a possibility that they do better than you and I think. Consumers aren't always logical and economical with their games spending.

of course I can't. but thats the spiciness of the chorizo.

I will say that I am not predicting anything but more like having an informed opinion. (based on the past)

well, I believe CoD is going to bring between 3-5 Million NEW subscribers to GPU.

is that low, huge, enough?

we are going to see how MS reacts about that.

 

[Deleted member 848825]

well, I believe CoD is going to bring between 3-5 Million NEW subscribers to GPU.

is that low, huge, enough?

I wonder if that growth will be primarily on PC...

 

[MethodRed]

Because they loosing money on game pass