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Rumor: Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart is the next PC port being made by Nixxes
Elder Legend
Banned
To be fair, Returnal on PC didn't really come out at the best time. There was too much hype going on at the time for Hogwarts Legacy when it came out. Other games were making rounds like Wild Hearts and Atomic Hearts and they came out around same week.
Sony didn't really even marketed it that much either. Returnal on PC would of done way better if it released day 1 with the PS5 version in my opinion. Housemarque is not a very well known developer and their titles are kind of niche as well.
mrmustard
Banned
I don't think too many people would switch to a pc and the Pc owners who also have a PS only for the exclusives aren't the customers Sony wants. But i'm very sure day1 Pc releases would multiply their pc sales-
Elder Legend
Banned
I'd like to see Demon's Souls on PC and eventually GoW Ragnarok.
Oddvintagechap
Member
PC’s have more RAM, they can probably run it fine.
I hate how bland they turned Ratchet personality wise.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Sony is going ro have to learn the hard way it seems that if you want your purchase of nixxes and other studios to pay off, you need to be on pc day 1.
There's too many amazing games on pc and Sonys first party output, two years later at full price is not going to cut it.
When you are eating this good all the time like pc users are...I don't think sonys first party games show up as well as they do to their console fan base....they miss all the marketing hype cycle that a lot of people fall for and sales are showing that they just don't perform like other games.
There's too many amazing games on pc and Sonys first party output, two years later at full price is not going to cut it.
When you are eating this good all the time like pc users are...I don't think sonys first party games show up as well as they do to their console fan base....they miss all the marketing hype cycle that a lot of people fall for and sales are showing that they just don't perform like other games.
I know this is a joke but TLOU part 1 has an SSD as a min requirement and 16GB of RAM. Expect the same here.
This was always the case. The hammer hitting the crystals to do that half second transition is probably the fastest transfer of data in the game. With enough RAM you could just have the two worlds loaded already before you even hit it.
A good strategy would be to time the late PC and PS+ release. Time that second wind sales push to be together. That way the buzz from PS plus release might result in the extra word of mouth for PC sales or vice versa PC release word of mouth might make some sign up to PS+ to play it.
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You must be super fun at parties.i would definitely buy it day as I was one of the first to call BS on SSD “ secret sauce “ when you can clearly see each trick used for every portal . I would gladly pay $70 for that “ told you so “ lol
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I doubt the majority of pcs have more ram than the ps5.
Gameplay Gods Bless
Member
You definitely got that right, none of these companies are loyal to anyone not even their own partners so why waste ones time playing cheerleader.
Elder Legend
Banned
Well all it really boils down too is purely insecurity. The buyer wants to believe that he or she made the right choice purchasing a product from a X company for Y price and that whatever this product offers is exclusive to them and only to them.
While there is nothing wrong with wanting to be proud and happy with the choices you've made, it can start to go to far to one side.
As soon as the company starts making more money by doing things differently than they used and all of their traditional business rules go out the window the buyer will now feel betrayed and angry, because now they feel cheated.
So because they feel betrayed and angry, they now have to shit on other people who are not even involved and just simply want to enjoy the same experiences that were previously not accessible to them. They do this to make themselves feel better, it's truly pathetic and just KEKW on so many levels.
It's so funny dude. It's just video games lol. But these idiots act like their life has changed and it's on the line or something because someone else is able to play the same thing they originally bought the system for. I can understand a part of it, but the reality is that the industry is changing and this is where it's heading.
They can either accept the change and roll with it or they can quit the hobby. No one is going to miss them or give two flying fucks about them lol. The industry is adapting to the new generation of consumers and new generation means giving access of future titles on more platforms than before.
People who are born today or in the last decade will not care what's exclusive or isn't. They want to play a good game, that's it.
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Years late and on 10x more expensive hardware.
So you would expect a win lol
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
People are willing to buy more than 1 game. Remember 360? We had whole year worth of gaming in every month back then and it was still selling.
Returnal is hard to advertise. I was few months late buying it on ps5 because it looked meh and it became one of my favs
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
2016 game was a terrible disneyified nightmare and a soulless game. Took all the edge off ratchet and the game itself was very simple.
Several interesting things:
1. This is the poster child for the PS5's SSD, isn't it? Will be interesting to see how it fares on a regular SATA SSD or even an HDD.
2. I love the R&C series and haven't played this one. However, I've heard it's the weakest entry since the 2016 reboot. Any truth to that?
3. I'm hyped for this but was expecting Ghost of Tsushima first. This would be much more successful but by the sound of it, Nixxes is handling PS5 ports. So far they've done Spider-Man and Returnal. Next on the list is R&C. I'm guessing another studio like Jetpack Interactive will do the PC port of GOT if there is one (which I believe there is).
This is waaaaay better. It’s actually a good game and not just bad remake of a good one.
Although ratchet is still a bitch. Ps2 edge will never return.
But yeah. It’s a great game.
Elder Legend
Banned
Back then people knew what they wanted more often than they do now. Back then, YouTube wasn't a big thing or twitter. We didn't have any big reviewers, influencers or media people to give previews or early opinions. Games were also cheaper Back then. It was easier to buy multiple games then, than it is now.
I'll agree with your statement in regards to Returnal. It is a hard game to market. I only got into it because of word of mouth and enjoyed it as well.
darrylgorn
Member
I'll take it at the first steam sale.
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SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Yes! I knew they’d be bringing Ratchet over in the next wave!
Ghost of Tsushima and Demons Souls gotta be close behind.
Ghost of Tsushima and Demons Souls gotta be close behind.
TrebleShot
Member
Interesting if true, Id double dip out of curiosity.
Did Returnal and Sackboy sell much anyway from their ports?
Did Returnal and Sackboy sell much anyway from their ports?
DareDaniel
Banned
Hope this turns out to be truth. Played all these games on PS2 and the first ones on PS3 before losing my interest, but this one looks really good. I wouldn't buy a PS5 just to play this, but I'll play it if it comes to PC.
What other exclusives PS5 still has? Demon Souls and GT7? This might be the first PS console that I don't buy.
What other exclusives PS5 still has? Demon Souls and GT7? This might be the first PS console that I don't buy.
Are you guys joking or serious honest question? The devs themself told DF in the interview that the game is only scratching the I/O of the PS5 and from what i understood there is a lot of performance left on the table. So what's is the idea? The dev says that but you choose to ignore that and say that the game is using the 5.5gb of the SSD? What's not clear about that? If the devs says the game is using all the performance of the ssd and runs on slower ssd or HDD then you guys would have a point but no. What's not clear ahout that? Think about it and change your argumen is not valid.
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RoboFu
One of the green rats
Sony dev and the marketing guy for that dev said you mean…. No they would never lie would they…
KungFucius
King Snowflake
If I had patience, I would not need the stupid PS5 with an extra controller. Whatever, I still get to play FFXVI on day one and played all the major releases I cared about on inferior hardware that pisses me off when hooked up to my AVR.
Do you have proof they lied when they said to DF there was performance left on the table. Please share and i will give you the win.Sony dev and the marketing guy for that dev said you mean…. No they would never lie would they…
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RoboFu
One of the green rats
Sure whenever this port is released.
But also being a software dev for nearly 30 years now helps.
That dosen't answer my question. I have +25 years being a lawyer and that dosen't prove anything in the court. I don't care if it runs on HDD when released on PC. The dev said the game is not using the full potential of the SSD.Sure whenever this port is released.
But also being a software dev for nearly 30 years now helps.
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RoboFu
One of the green rats
Your question is a dumb deflection. Do politicians or marketers ever tell you they lied?
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No, i didn't believe them when they said it only ran on ssd or ps5. I'm not asking you if it runs on hdd or whatever you say. Is the dev said to DF there is potential or performance left on the table. Do you have proof they lied saying there was performance left?
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Regginator
Member
Still waiting for it to hit the PS+ game catalogue. I'd love me a 3D platformer that looks gorgeous to boot, but full price or even half-off sounds like too much considering it's a pretty short game apparently.
Holammer
Member
If we use Steam user review amount as a metric they fared poorly. 3.8k for Returnal and a paltry 1.4k for Sackboy. 20k ~ 1 million copies.
Compare with Horizon (92k), GoW (96k) & Spiderman (59k). Those have been on sale for much longer and enjoyed a couple of sales.
Digital Foundry means well, but I fear they kneecaped Sackboy right out of the gate with the #stuttergate conversation, and I think it was overpriced at 59,99.
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
Once you see it running on a SATA drive you'll realize it wasn't using the "potential" of that SSD at all.
BlackTron
Gold Member
All that time waiting for PS5 slim, I was really waiting for them to show me it isn't even necessary. I thought PSVR2 would give me a nudge too but I decided to wait for a different headset after it came out. I just already have SO much gaming hardware and if they are just gonna port the games anyway, damn...this and Returnal were the main reasons I looked forward to a PS5 for many months after launch and that just evaporated. Even if they don't port everything or take a very long time it seems good enough for me. Even a lot of PS4 games I'd like to run at higher settings, like Ghost of Tsushima. Might just get a PC port that could exceed PS5 potential anyway. Almost everything on PS5 is either a crossgen game or on PC too with very little true exclusivity...
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Chiggs
Gold Member
Sure it has sense specially for people who live outisde the USA pc gaming is more expensive. In my country for example a 4090 goes for us$2400 or 2500. The same goes for the other gpu. You take the price difference of the 4090 here and the USA and that's how much extra the hardware cost here. Same applies for cpu and etc. A ps5 disc cost us$610 and the gow bundle $637.
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DareDaniel
Banned
I was just checking the list of PS5 games that I have any interest in playing and very few of them are true exclusives.
https://ibb.co/L8p0bpg
https://ibb.co/ZHD1M9Y
Death Stranding 2, FFVII Rebirth, FFXVI and Spiderman 2 will eventually come to PC. Wolverine might follow Spiderman's steps as well.
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SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Also how much RAM does it use (as good or better while using more RAM… yeah kind of expected then
) and how many more months of additional dev time by a PC specialist it required. On top of that the performance of the console I/O solution was not maxed but they did achieve their visual and loading times target (for a next gen looking experience) and yet they were able to keep development times lower: making high performance achievable with a lower cost (Time to Triangle metric gives you an insight on how they approach it) with further performance you can unlock if you need to and have time for going even closer to the metal and implementing more custom solutions was the point of their architecture design.
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nightmare-slain
Gold Member
I'm just waiting for Demons Souls and I'll have zero reason to get a PS5. VII Rebirth is the only upcoming game I want to play that I'd need a PS5 for....until it comes to PC but I don't know if I can wait.
T-Cake
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Chiggs
Gold Member
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
The most popular GPU is the 3060 with 12GB of VRAM.
The most popular amount of SRAM is 16GB.
