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[Panajev2001a]

I find the image quality and performance to be good. Especially considering it's a PS5 game on a handheld.

Valve was smart to include 16GB RAM and a NVMe drive. I don't have much hope that the Switch 2 will have a NVMe, and one can only hope they have at least 12GB RAM in light of the 8GB rumors. Switch 2 would have a hard time running Rift Apart without those 2 things.

I think Steam Deck was really well put and regardless of better specs being available on other handhelds I have to support them for the work they did, especially on Proton and the OS itself (and the open Software, console like stable HW specs on the other). The overall OS + overlay + HW (input options included too) is for me amazing.

Cannot wait for Steam Deck 2 in a few years (very happy Steam Deck OLED customer here, traded the old one for the upgrade as the screen was its only issue for me).

 

[VolticArchangel]

The more time it takes, closer Switch 2 will be to Xbox Series S, on portable mode...
Then the DOCK mode will be closer to PS5 performance...

Does anyone agree with me?? if not, please tell me why

Having a dedicated dock that significantly boosts games makes much more sense and should be a way to go.

Switch 2 undocked - PS4 quality
Switch 2 docked - PS5

You're deluded and going to be pretty disappointed if you think that the Switch 2 will even be remotely close to a PS5's perf, when docked, let alone a Series S.

The SoC that the Switch 2 will have is the T239 Ampere, core for core slightly lesser than an RTX 3050, and most probably clocks as well since it's a mobile chip.

The vast majority of games you'll get on the Switch 2 will be 900p-1080p native internally rendered (while docked) and DLSS 3'D to 4K output. On handheld it will be even lower, and then DLSS 3'D to that 8" LCD screen with that PPI, an adequate amount.

 

[Chittagong]

Let's say that Switch 2 really isn't coming until next year... what Switch games are any of you looking forward to this year?
Metroid Prime 4 is literally the only known Switch game left that I'm looking forward to (unless they announce more stuff this year)...

With Nintendo you never know. Incredibly, we didn’t know Super Mario Wonder exists until June 21st last year. Four months later we were playing on our Switches.

That said, I think anything of that caliber will now be moved to the launch slate. The only thing we can anticipate is Luigi’s Mansion 2 remake.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

I hope the delay is to improve the soc but it’s Nintendo

 

[GoldenEye98]

Docked Switch 2 will at best be running games similar to PS4 Pro.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

Docked Switch 2 will at best be running games similar to PS4 Pro.

So perhaps around 1440p/30fps for some games?

 

[GoldenEye98]

So perhaps around 1440p/30fps for some games?

Depends on the game. The older the game possibly. Certainly no current or recent AAA games.

 

[MarkMe2525]

If Nintendo is still printing money with the switch... why not?

 

[locoghoul]

Let's say that Switch 2 really isn't coming until next year... what Switch games are any of you looking forward to this year?
Metroid Prime 4 is literally the only known Switch game left that I'm looking forward to (unless they announce more stuff this year)...

I don't see any major release if it is end of life. Pokemon Let's Go might be their last franchise sell of the system. Would be nice to get a 3D Donkey Kong but don't see that happening

 

[PSYGN]

Nice, this will give them time to add OLED in. Yeah, that tech that PS Vita had in 2012.

 

[RoadHazard]

A delay isn't gonna make it more powerful or give it an OLED display or anything, lol. It's gonna be the exact same hardware it would have been had it already been released. If they're delaying it it's for strategic purposes.

 

[GoldenEye98]

A delay isn't gonna make it more powerful or give it an OLED display or anything, lol. It's gonna be the exact same hardware it would have been had it already been released. If they're delaying it it's for strategic purposes.

Nor will it mean any price difference imo. You are getting that 5 year old hardware for $400 still....

 

[RoadHazard]

Nor will it mean any price difference imo. You are getting that 5 year old hardware for $400 still....

The Switch is still the same price it was 7 years ago, so yeah.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

A delay isn't gonna make it more powerful or give it an OLED display or anything, lol. It's gonna be the exact same hardware it would have been had it already been released. If they're delaying it it's for strategic purposes.

This is a pretty simple minded impression of how R&D works.

No, they’re not going to go back to the drawing board and redesign it with a new screen. But it’s highly likely they developed multiple candidates (say, one with a LCD and one with OLED). And it’s very possible they decided that it’s worth a slight delay to launch with OLED.

I work in R&D for a tech company, this is very common. You develop a few different candidates with different hardware specs, then decide on one much later on based on supplier availability, cost, competitive analysis, etc etc. and it’s very common to have a backup plan in case one component can’t be sourced or can’t be developed in time (“ideally we want to use component A but we can use component B if A doesn’t pass QA” or whatever)

 

[asdasdasdbb]

The speculated reason for the delay is due to the first party games not going to be ready.

 

[CrustyBritches]

A delay isn't gonna make it more powerful or give it an OLED display or anything, lol. It's gonna be the exact same hardware it would have been had it already been released. If they're delaying it it's for strategic purposes.

And furthermore, the reason they wouldn't launch with an OLED(rumor) has nothing to do with pricing or R&D. It's to get the double-dip later on. Same deal with stick drift, especially on the Lite. It's a feature. The system just ends up getting thrown in the junk box in the closet and the parents buy another one because of the software they've already purchased(sunk-cost fallacy).

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

Can't be delayed if it was never announced.

 

[mckmas8808]

Looks like Nintendo is dead now too

2024 is going to be a slow year compared to 2023. But 2025 is gonna be a MONSTER!!!

 

[tr1p1ex]

as if the date was ever set in stone.

 

[Audiophile]

Looks like Nintendo is dead now too

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

These fucking edits

 

[Jesb]

Maybe they’ll make enough that scalpers won’t be a thing this time.

 

[JordiENP]

Docked Switch 2 will at best be running games similar to PS4 Pro.

that's just raw power without counting up scaling methods like dlss, fsr and nintendo's own thing. the little machine will be capable.

 

[GoldenEye98]

that's just raw power without counting up scaling methods like dlss, fsr and nintendo's own thing. the little machine will be capable.

No, the raw power will be more akin to a PS4. The newer architecture and things like dlss could get it closer to PS4 Pro performance.

PS4 Pro was 4.2 tflops. Switch 2 won't have that raw power.

 

[Moses85]

Nice, this will give them time to add OLED in. Yeah, that tech that PS Vita had in 2012.

Hardware is ready, games not and this is the reason for the delay.. so no oled Screen

 

[hussar16]

Makes sense. Let the gta hype die down once that releases then release your console

 

[GigaBowser]

bee real switch STILL sell more in a year then wii u lifetime rumors wrong every year see you in 2027 confirmed sick of the crud hardware

 

[BlackTron]

The speculated reason for the delay is due to the first party games not going to be ready.

I thought they were more prepared than this but this is really the best reason to delay it.

 

[digital_ghost]

I hope i will be able to buy one on launch day. Its been said that they are overproducing to fight scalping.

I got lucky with a PS5 on launch day.

 

[Dr. Suchong]

This year, next year, whatever year.
I'll buy the shit out of it day one while everyone else complains about Ray tracing or something.

 

[Robb]

It’s a bit too quiet around it.. I want more smoke. Where are the leaks of the form factor and new JoyCons?

 

[Daniel Thomas MacInnes]

There are still 50,000 games on Switch that I haven't bought or played, so this just gives me more time. I'm assuming Switch 2 is being held back so that Nintendo can polish and perfect the next flagship 3D Mario or Zelda, plus whatever launch titles are in production. That's fine by me and comes as no surprise. It's Nintendo.

I'll be fine. I've got Atari 5200 Pac-Man and Mario Bros to keep me happy.

 

[cash_longfellow]

This shit been “delayed” since 2021…the amount of “News outlets” trying to cover their asses because they needed to be the first to announce a non existent (at that point) console, is absurd to me. Sure, you are getting a new Nin console, whatever tf it is as this point, at whatever tf point in time you will get it. Just stop acting like this thing exists until it finally does…it’s so damn tiring for part time Nintendo fans like myself. I am trying to retain my hope and sanity here.

 

[EverydayBeast]

I think steam deck is switch 2, Nintendo has to adjust its attitude to graphics.

 

[Aldric]

With the amount of new games revealed this past Direct that were obviously developed for the first Switch this confirms what I thought, the system was always scheduled for 2025 there's no "delay".

 

[CrustyBritches]

This shit been “delayed” since 2021…the amount of “News outlets” trying to cover their asses because they needed to be the first to announce a non existent (at that point) console, is absurd to me. Sure, you are getting a new Nin console, whatever tf it is as this point, at whatever tf point in time you will get it. Just stop acting like this thing exists until it finally does…it’s so damn tiring for part time Nintendo fans like myself. I am trying to retain my hope and sanity here.

My theory is that some of old Switch Pro rumors were simply the OLED.

However, that's completely separate deal from the Switch 2 leaks. Kopite7Kimi leaked the Switch 2 T239 SoC 3 years ago(June 10th, 2021). Shortly afterwards the Nvidia hack happened and referenced DLSS along with NVN2 and some mentions of T239.

 

[Moochi]

You're supposed to time it BEFORE the economic collapse, not after, Nintendo.

 

[Esppiral]

Nothing is delayed without being announced.

That is actually not true things get delayed even if you don't know the original planned release date, I work on a multinational car manufacturer and things get delayed just the general public doesn't know.

 

[Emedan]

With the amount of new games revealed this past Direct that were obviously developed for the first Switch this confirms what I thought, the system was always scheduled for 2025 there's no "delay".

Shit take. Rather its obvious they didn't have software ready so they delayed the HW launch for that. I mean look at the games we're getting this twilight year of the switch.

 

[Aldric]

Shit take. Rather its obvious they didn't have software ready so they delayed the HW launch for that. I mean look at the games we're getting this twilight year of the switch.

I'm sorry that you got scammed by donating to some leaker's onlyfans but there's no need to take your frustration out on me!

 

[Senua]

I think steam deck is switch 2, Nintendo has to adjust its attitude to graphics.

They won't, and they'll keep succeeding by making great games.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

That is actually not true things get delayed even if you don't know the original planned release date, I work on a multinational car manufacturer and things get delayed just the general public doesn't know.

If it's an internal deadline not announced to the public, it's not officially delayed yet because the public never got an official announcement or date. That's my point with that post.

People saying Switch 2 was delayed made no sense since day 1. Nintendo never said anything about this console yet.

 

[hussar16]

With the amount of new games revealed this past Direct that were obviously developed for the first Switch this confirms what I thought, the system was always scheduled for 2025 there's no "delay".

I though pokemon and the way the console could not handle it would force nintendo to step up and release the next console as fast as possible but it seems Nintendo is printing money so they don't care. Milking it stil until the next major pokemon release

 

[Zannegan]

I though pokemon and the way the console could not handle it would force nintendo to step up and release the next console as fast as possible but it seems Nintendo is printing money so they don't care. Milking it stil until the next major pokemon release

But Pokemon's performance has little to nothing to do with the console's limitations and everything to do with Gamefreak's technical incompetence. What I wouldn't give to have them stick to game design and have someone like Monolithsoft handle the actual development.

EDIT: Not that I wouldn't want a Switch 2, like, yesterday.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

If it's an internal deadline not announced to the public, it's not officially delayed yet because the public never got an official announcement or date. That's my point with that post.

People saying Switch 2 was delayed made no sense since day 1. Nintendo never said anything about this console yet.

If they were targeting one release date, then delayed it to another release date, that means it’s delayed. You’re just making up some meaningless distinction so you can claim that Nintendo didn’t delay it.

 

[hussar16]

But Pokemon's performance has little to nothing to do with the console's limitations and everything to do with Gamefreak's technical incompetence. What I wouldn't give to have them stick to game design and have someone like Monolithsoft handle the actual development.

EDIT: Not that I wouldn't want a Switch 2, like, yesterday.

I don't think it's all gamefreak. Switch cant handle most games properly and if gamefreak tells nintendo we need more power and since pokemon is the highest ip they wil listen

 

[Zannegan]

I don't think it's all gamefreak. Switch cant handle most games properly and if gamefreak tells nintendo we need more power and since pokemon is the highest ip they wil listen

Sure, but look at other games on the system, especially games with comparable scope and gameplay. Gamefreaks's output is embarrasing by comparison.

 

[WhiteWaterM00se]

My theory is that some of old Switch Pro rumors were simply the OLED.

However, that's completely separate deal from the Switch 2 leaks. Kopite7Kimi leaked the Switch 2 T239 SoC 3 years ago(June 10th, 2021). Shortly afterwards the Nvidia hack happened and referenced DLSS along with NVN2 and some mentions of T239.

The Switch Pro was 100% real. Some of the Switch games were originally designed for Switch Pro as main sku.
I know for fact. That is all I am going to say on that.

But, many “insiders” seem to get the details wrong.

I don’t know specifics on Switch 2, but until Nintendo says something, I don’t think we should take anything for granted. I personally believe the delay with Swtich 2 is because they decided to add BC at the 11h hour. That is just my belief.

BUT until Nintendo says something, I don’t think we should take anything from the leakers/insiders are 100% true.

I am hopeful we hear something from Nintendo by September.

Side Note: I personally believe there is more to show in Zelda, and Mario & Luigi. I think if there is a Fall Direct, it actually comes by August this year. Then hopefully, we start getting Next Gen news. Again, just my hope.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

If they were targeting one release date, then delayed it to another release date, that means it’s delayed. You’re just making up some meaningless distinction so you can claim that Nintendo didn’t delay it.

Again, we have no indication that even internally this was delayed

 

[Woopah]

The Switch Pro was 100% real. Some of the Switch games were originally designed for Switch Pro as main sku.
I know for fact. That is all I am going to say on that.

But, many “insiders” seem to get the details wrong.

I don’t know specifics on Switch 2, but until Nintendo says something, I don’t think we should take anything for granted. I personally believe the delay with Swtich 2 is because they decided to add BC at the 11h hour. That is just my belief.

BUT until Nintendo says something, I don’t think we should take anything from the leakers/insiders are 100% true.

I am hopeful we hear something from Nintendo by September.

Side Note: I personally believe there is more to show in Zelda, and Mario & Luigi. I think if there is a Fall Direct, it actually comes by August this year. Then hopefully, we start getting Next Gen news. Again, just my hope.

I could see there being another September Direct to round out thr fiscal year, maybe with a FE4 remake and a Kid Icarus remaster for Q1 2025.