UnemployedVillain
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Steady meaning the hardware isn't changing it's clock speeds because it's starting to reach a dangerous operating temperature
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Rumor: Switch developer information leaked. Reveals A TON incl. hardware specs
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Steady meaning the hardware isn't changing it's clock speeds because it's starting to reach a dangerous operating temperature
BaroqueSampson
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Top tier post
Wasn't this in an episode of Silicon Valley?
The perfect Dark
Banned
someone needs to put some porn on the TV
Gets difficult to do when it's in every thread and irrelevant to the conversation.
Since it appears you only get one My Nintendo account per device, probably shared between Switch accounts.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. This isn't isn't PS4 level at all, but still your point stands. There's a lot of tech in there for $300.
titiklabingapat
Member
I still don't understand the complaints about the price. Let me see you downsize something akin to a PS4 in a portable factor and keep the $350-$400 pricepoint.
El Sabroso
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you could do just that in Wii U via miiverse
Nonsense, there's plenty of actual conversation going on about the actual leak. Some tangent on phone hardware does not change that.
But then again, that other poster is probably considering all critical comments 'shitposting', as if any statement that isn't hype or adoration isn't allowed.
Aztechnology
Member
I see Bluetooth in that list. I...See...Bluetooooooth.
Would be a step for vindicating my Switch purchase.
Would be a step for vindicating my Switch purchase.
Caipirinha
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It's a fraction of the power of a PS4 in both docked and undocked mode so... Not sure what your point is.
that was the point
that a portable PS4 at $299 or even more is unrealistic
I don't know who that poster was talking to tho
I think the point is that it'd probably be impossible to both have something portable that competed on specs for the price.
Which is right. It's just a matter of how important the portable part of the system is to you. To me it's a big selling point.
MHWilliams
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If true, the connection will be per game, instead of per system?
Better than nothing.
I just hope it means you can access hotspot webpages via Wi-fi settings.
civilstrife
Member
Honestly, I think the best thing about the Switch from Nintendo's perspective is that they finally found a permanent and reliable niche.
When Wii motion controls proved to be a hit, they were easily replicated by the competition, functionally by PS Move and spiritually by Kinect.
There is almost no chance of Sony or MS abandoning high-end graphics to go for a hybrid system any time soon.
Nintendo abandoned high-end graphics a long time ago and seems to finally be reaping the rewards strategically. Unique control schemes aside, they have successfully set themselves apart in a meaningful way with their portable/home console hybrid in a way that the competition is unlikely to follow.
When Wii motion controls proved to be a hit, they were easily replicated by the competition, functionally by PS Move and spiritually by Kinect.
There is almost no chance of Sony or MS abandoning high-end graphics to go for a hybrid system any time soon.
Nintendo abandoned high-end graphics a long time ago and seems to finally be reaping the rewards strategically. Unique control schemes aside, they have successfully set themselves apart in a meaningful way with their portable/home console hybrid in a way that the competition is unlikely to follow.
franklyshankly
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My opinion is that I'd rather simply not have that tech (removable motion controller, HD rumble, an included dock, etc.) and have the price substantially lower. I would be totally fine with it just being a portable console that had no other features, for a lower price. Nintendo has yet to demonstrate to me the value of those features. I don't care if I never play 1,2 switch or the like, it is just a non-factor.
He's saying that something as powerful as a ps4 that is also playable in a handheld form world cost hundreds more than this does.
He isn't implying docked switch is ps4 level.
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It's no where near PS4 power, but still it is a lot of tech for the price.
The problem is a lot of the tech isn't meaninful to certain people like myself who'll use it no the TV with a pro controller pretty much all the time. For that use it's an overpriced and underpowered console as we're paying for a screen we won't use, detachable joycons with motion controls, ir sensor etc. that we won't use often, HD rumble that may not be anything special in traditional games etc.
I still preordered as I love Nintendo games and I'm excited about all their games being on one platform after 3DS is done, but I'm not excited about the hardware or the price.
If I was someone that gamed home and away it's a much better value proposition as you're getting a console and portable that you'll use often both ways. Even more value if you like party games like 1 2 Switch and will get use out of the joycon waggle/rumble features beyond gyro aiming that the pro controller can do as well.
enoirmeplz
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I've always gotten two varying different results with battery life on my 3DS (new & original) and my Vita. With Vita winning hands down always. I litterally leave it in stand by (with a game running) for 3 weeks and the battery is barely moved. My 3DS might last a week doing the same.
FunkyDealer
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3,25 GB of RAM available to games is pretty good. I was expecting 3,0 GB at most, with the OS taking up approx 1,0 GB.
Having 1/4 of the CPU dedicated to OS stuff sounds a bit much though. But I suppose it's to be expected with a mobile quad-core.
Having 1/4 of the CPU dedicated to OS stuff sounds a bit much though. But I suppose it's to be expected with a mobile quad-core.
I get what you're saying, and I agree that the chances of MS and Sony going down the route of a weaker hybrid console when they are releasing more powerful mid-gen consoles certainly doesn't look likely.
But I could totally see Sony (more than MS) releasing a handheld device that has access to the same library the PS4 and PS4 pro have access to. I could also see it being pretty successful, certainly moreso than releasing a handheld device with it's own library.
For me handheld devices have always been a compromise in terms of game library, even the Vita with games like Uncharted, and Killzone regardless of how good they were for a portable device were nowhere near their console versions.
Remote play which I've seen touted as an alternative to the switch isn't a decent alternative either for me personally, but if Sony released a device that allowed me to access all of my PSN games I'd buy it tomorrow.
The reason I enjoyed off-tv play on the Wii U gamepad is because I could play "proper" Nintendo games on a portable device, I'm aware the 3ds has good games, but I've always preferred the experiences I can get playing a 3d Mario on a console as opposed to what they've released on their handhelds for example.
And with the Switch I'm going to be able to experience those types of games on the go, and not tethered to the limited range the Wii U gamepad had.
family_guy
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I guess I wonder what else they could do if $300 was their target. Of course if they removed all that stuff from the Joycon and just made it a simple detachable bluetooth controller, then the system could have possibly been more powerful at the same price or cheaper at the same level of performance. Even being comfortable with the $300 price point, it's the accessories prices that hurt the most. If I want the best local coop ARMS experience, I need another set of Joycons. If I want a good d-pad then that's another $70 for a Pro controller. That stuff adds up.
The Hermit
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Yeah, that would be insane.
Also, the reason why Nintendo won't allow browsing any time soon.
LegendofLex
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Hoping for that as well.
It'd be the most elegant solution in a 2017 portable anyway, moreso than having to open a browser to go online.
Inspectah_Deck
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That would be Linux.
The Switch OS is not Android based.
MisterHero
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That's big news right? Unlikely, but hopefully you can share digital games between systems too.
GameAddict411
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It seems to confirm digital foundry source for the hardware specs. Still disappointed, but it's Nintendo after all.
Um, what.
He wasn't saying that Switch is akin to PS4. He said that an hypotetical PS4 level handheld wouldn't be priced as the regular PS4. Which is why he doesn't get the complaints about the Switch price (299$ for a handheld with better specs than Wii U).
WordAssassin
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Wait ok
So I saw the diagrams with the users per Switch thing.
But do we have enough information to figure out, if I have my Switch, and I sign in there, and then I sign in on my girlfriend's Switch, can she download my downloadable games onto her Switch? And if so, does she need to be signed in as me to play them, or are they just available to her? (I expect she'd need to be signed in)
I don't supposed I could be signed in on 2 Switches and play multiplayer against myself, could I?
So I saw the diagrams with the users per Switch thing.
But do we have enough information to figure out, if I have my Switch, and I sign in there, and then I sign in on my girlfriend's Switch, can she download my downloadable games onto her Switch? And if so, does she need to be signed in as me to play them, or are they just available to her? (I expect she'd need to be signed in)
I don't supposed I could be signed in on 2 Switches and play multiplayer against myself, could I?
El Sabroso
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well at least offline webpages can be used for electronic game manuals, this was one really good feature from 3DS and WiiU OS
We don't but it seems unlikely.
Regardless this won't be a thing.
Honestly the only changes Switch could really have would simply be related to price. Simplify the controls and such and have it down to like 250.
The X1 is as state of the Art as you are going to get right now. In fact based on timing Nintendo has been developing Switch with Nvidia since X1 was still in development.
Xavier will be the next step for Nintendo in the future for sure. Parker is a stopgap that is basically just a die shrunk X1.
civilstrife
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Great, well thought out post, but I'm not sure even Sony could design an affordable handheld that could handle PS4 games in the foreseeable future. And then, what happens to your physical disc-based games? They learned their lesson with the PSPGo that digital only systems have major problems at retail.
Thanks everyone! It should have been that obvious to me, but... Nintendo! So you just never know!
It simply may not be for you. I mean, there's nothing wrong with that.
It's a point that lots of people seem to not understand:
The Switch uses the most advanced mobile chipset NVIDIA makes right now.
That's interesting, my N3DSXL will not last more than a couple of days sitting in standby with a game running. I have one and my wife has one, and we get the exact same results with the battery, because we both play pokemon together (separate... but together)
Again, I'm hosting the leak on my site for a limited amount of time, if you wanna browse through it. There's a lot of information there and it's quite interesting.
Link: http://dystify.com/SwitchLeak
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Someone earlier asked what the "Game News" thing is. Here's the page on it from the leak: http://dystify.com/Features/contents/Pages/Page_126567292.html
3.1 Game News
You can download data specific to the following types of games.
Info
In the future, publishers and developers can prepare and distribute game news for each application. Details are currently under evaluation.
Download Conditions
The following conditions must be met to download game news items.
It is possible, however, to view news items that must be shared within the system even if there is no Nintendo Account linked. You can save and add news items using the following methods.
Link: http://dystify.com/SwitchLeak
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Someone earlier asked what the "Game News" thing is. Here's the page on it from the leak: http://dystify.com/Features/contents/Pages/Page_126567292.html
3.1 Game News
You can download data specific to the following types of games.
- Notifications with a strong promotional element
- Application notifications
- Notifications about the NX system, such as how to use system features
Info
In the future, publishers and developers can prepare and distribute game news for each application. Details are currently under evaluation.
Download Conditions
The following conditions must be met to download game news items.
- A Nintendo Account must be linked to the user account.
- Internet connection
- The ability to receive news items is enabled, as it is by default, in System Settings.
It is possible, however, to view news items that must be shared within the system even if there is no Nintendo Account linked. You can save and add news items using the following methods.
- Saved from when the application ships
- Added during a system update
- Downloaded from the Data Distribution and Transmission System (BCAT)
franklyshankly
Member
That's true, but it will be a problem for Nintendo if a lot of people feel like me. We will see what the future holds I suppose.
Skittzo0413
Member
I think a lot of people just don't really understand gaming technology as much as they think they do. Other mobile chips might get better performance out of some components (namely the CPU) but they can't get the entire performance envelope the Switch will have for any appreciable amount of time.
And you need that to run games.
Yeah there are definitely a lot of things that would have to be given a lot of thought. It's an idea that might not be ready for prime time. Well it isn't really viable now at all.
Perhaps a device like that would make more sense when/if we get to a point where the likes of PS Now is how games are distributed. But that time isn't coming anytime soon.
I guess ultimately for me personally the reason handhelds have never really been my first choice is because they've not provided the type of games I want to play.
I know there's the argument that states that there's been historical proof that handhelds focused on console experiences on the go have failed, but for me personally those handhelds have failed with me as a consumer because the experiences were compromised, and not actually as good as the console counterparts.
The other argument states that handhelds are really only suited to the pick up and play games. But I feel those types of games are better suited to a device like a phone, it's a device that's with you all the time, and ideal for a 5 minute blast in a waiting room. Having to carry a handheld to game in those circumstances is a chore.
The logic is similar to web browsing, if I need to quickly google something, or send a quick email a phone fills that niche, if I need to do some more heavy lifting I'd need a tablet/laptop to be more comfortable, but they're not a device I'd carry around with me "just incase".
The switch is for me the dream of having the same games on a portable device that I could play in a more traditional couch/tv setting. It's what I've always wanted, and what I hoped the PSP and Vita would be....I won't carry the switch with me just incase I fancy gaming for 5 minutes, but it will be the device I bring with me on a long journey/flight etc/
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