RedSparrows
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For real?
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Rumor: Xbox E3 info (Zombie game, Battletoads, Forza Horizon, AoE, more)
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Bitch Pudding
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I get your reasoning, but I am not sure if this works out for them.
The main reason being the price for a mandatory Scorpio XBox and the OR set, which right know sums up to a whopping €1.100 to €1.200 (depening on Scorpio's price). And that's the price w/o a dedicated VR controller.
PSVR starts at €750 (w/ vanilla PS4, camera and standard controller) resp. €900 (w/ PS4 Neo and Move controllers), so it's a lot cheaper. Not to mention the 40mn+ PS4 owners who can start their VR experience with a €450 investment, in 5 months btw.
I am not sure if the extra beef of Scorpio and the (slightly) superior OR set will make up for that price gap (yeah, I am aware OR will get cheaper at some point, but so will PSVR).
So, long story short, VR on Scorpio will be a premium prices experience, hence the mass market as well as early adopters will most likely go with PSVR instead of waiting another year.
And my point is: The damage this early announcement of VR on Scorpio resp. the Scorpio itself does to Sony's VR plans (and Nintendo NX for all we know) is obscure. Best case scenario is it will prevent current XBOX owners from switching to the Sony platform. But vice versa? I don't think so. Instead, people will think twice before they purchase an XBOX One Slim if they announce it will be superseded by a new SKU (or whatever) just a year later.
So I really doubt they officially announce Scorpio anytime soon, they'll just shoot themselves in the foot.
xVodevil
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Good guy Gates looked into it! Plz be true!
Miles Quaritch
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Goddammit...
ForsakenLotus
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Honestly, I don't get the Battletoads love. I thought it was a pretty generic game in the 90's and some of the difficulty in the game is just obnoxious. Maybe there is something I'm missing, because when I hear people say they would buy an Xbox One its like we are talking about two entirely different games.
GHG
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Oh don't worry I've come to realise this already. As long as they keep releasing Forza games I'm ok to be honest. I'm starting to have less and less time for gaming these days so I prefer to invest my time in fewer high quality titles and Forza is very much part of that category for me.
I have an idea what this guy is doing, I'm going to try and figure this one out when I get back from work.
I want to try and dig and at least confirm what he's saying and use it myself.
Good art style, great music, nice gameplay ... only the difficulty was busted at times. But those games had personality.
You take these, add a couple huge announcements and a couple mid-tier (Zombie, Battletoads, two more), baby, you got a stew great E3 going.
Pretty accurate statement. You have like 5 new retail IPs so far released, two with any sort of budget, only two were announced and developed wholly for the Xbox One. A couple more announced, but they're hardly balls deep in new IP.
To be fair Sony and Nintendo definitely aren't doing better.
This gen has been super conservative.
For real?
Pretty accurate statement. You have like 5 new retail IPs so far released, two with any sort of budget, only two were announced and developed wholly for the Xbox One. A couple more announced, but they're hardly balls deep in new IP.
To be fair Sony and Nintendo definitely aren't doing better.
This gen has been super conservative.
Bits N Pieces
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Double Goddammit...
Bits N Pieces
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Im not going to start producing lists or anything like that but if we only include 'real' games like retail ones then I suppose you are right, personally Kalimba, Ori, D4 and Powerstar Golf have been some of the most fun I ve had with any games. *Shrugs*
The Giant
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Always hated going up and down on Macquarie Pass since I was a kid.
I mean, a game can be good on literally zero budget. Indie gamejams prove this all the time. But a pretty obvious way to measure where a companies priorities are is to follow the money. Everyone is conservative in downtimes.
Poimandres
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How far into the game did you get? Almost every level plays radically differently, it has great graphics for the NES, soundtrack is really good, it has heaps of polish and is frankly loads of fun. A lot of people get hung up on the difficulty, but like many games of the era you just need to practice until you memorize the entire game! Lol
I will never understand the disappointment in releasing new IPs in the digital space instead of retail -- especially when releasing them digitally means a better chance for a good game to get a sequel; Digital only games are usually significantly less than $60 so more people will be willing to try it out. Ori (as you've already mentioned) is one of my favorite games this gen and the game has done really well in part due to it being digital. I'm sure that the game would have flopped if it was pushed as a $60 retail title at launch.
So yeah, I don't really care about retail vs. digital in terms of new IPs -- especially since I get games digitally anyway. Game quality is far more important, and I'm not going to complain about not spending $60 for a new IP I'm really interested in.
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Hyped for a new Forza Horizon but I definitely feel similar. I would have greatly preferred a setting in Japan since it would have been more unique in comparison to the first two games in the series.
Black Mantis
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Yeah, my thoughts exactly.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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I'm pretty surprised it's taken them this long.
Seems like the perfect way to achieve the original Xbox one plans in. Hindsight.
He's looking at the xbox API. I don't know why half the stuff he's talking about is there though, or why it's public.
Compared to what?
DriftingSpirit
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"Nothing for Crimson Skies, Project Gotham Racing, Jade Empire, Midtown Madness. Sry."
Welp, back to crying.
Welp, back to crying.
JumPeRJumPzZ
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Tntnico
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I hope it's not a big budget game. Hope it's more like Shovel Knight, or better, made by Yacht Club instead of Rare !
I'm not a big fan of Battletoads, but yes, MS should release a new one : that way, we can go ahead and ask for a Banjo Kazooie or a Conker now
Mixolydian
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I want a new conker so bad, but not Hip Young Millenial Conker.
Banjo-Kazooie
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Ya I've said from the start this just seems fishy...like someone throwing buzz words against a wall and seeing what sticks.
I think this Reddit comment from someone shows my feelings also: https://www.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/4luugg/e3_teaser_trailer_coming_online_later_today/d3qdj2p
I hope it's not a big budget game. Hope it's more like Shovel Knight, or better, made by Yacht Club instead of Rare !
I'm not a big fan of Battletoads, but yes, MS should release a new one : that way, we can go ahead and ask for a Banjo Kazooie or a Conker now
We've been asking for Banjo for so god damn long, my disappointment at every years E3 can't be put down into words. And no, I never give up hope :/
crimsonheadGCN
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I hope that DayZ (Game Preview) would be available soon (if the zombie game turns out to be DayZ).
I thought Japan was a lock since most fans of the series wanted that :/.
Not going to lie, from looking myself, you really can dig out a lot from the API. I'm not surprised if all this is true, I had my doubts and posted on the same thread. Now, I'm really believing it's true. I want to find the same info though he has.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Hmm...nothing interesting for me, then :/ Hopefully some new stuff is announced that looks good and is not "generic shooter 45670."
Sunset Samurai
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Every Forza has sold over a million tho
rokkerkory
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Yes if they are planning for PC release too
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
I'm not even sure what that comment was in reply to, but with PC support from this point out, those sales numbers are only going to increase.
I'm confused, where are these logs being pulled from? I obviously don't want your source or specifics...
Freeman
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Compared to my opinion of it now that a year has passed? The backwards compatibility was shocking at the time.
I don't think I could take another shitty Conker announcement.
It's not only the first parties, third parties are being as conservative with their IP's if not more. Think before Overwatch, what new third party IP this gen has been truly successful while being something different? Things like Destiny and Watch Dogs are simply combinations of other games (Halo, Borderlands and WoW and Assassin's Creed and GTA respectively) and didn't have good receptions when they launched (Watch Dogs still isn't remembered fondly).
Publishers only want to release games that they are certain will sell. Development costs have become too expensive this gen to take risks, especially given how long the cycles are. This is why having upgrades to the PS4 and Xbox One so soon worries me. Instead of developers figuring out technology and costs being driven down, allowing for more new IP's and overall risks to be done, developers have to learn new technology and costs will become even more expensive, leading to a continuation, if not expansion of the super conservative IP decisions of this gen.
Just look at Tomb Raider 2013. It needed 3-4 Million units to BREAK EVEN. How in the world did they ever expect a franchise like Tomb Raider, which had those numbers as a best case scenario over an entire gen, to sell more than that and generate a profit? And people think increasing the dev costs even further with premature hardware advancements is a good idea? It'll get worse than before and we'll see more developers close down because this method simply isn't sustainable, that's sadly why we're lacking in new IP this gen.
Tomb Raider is a bad example. Square just doesn't know how to properly manage a budget and set realistic expectations. Heck even Capcom is getting better about that than they are.
Look at Bloodborne. It sold over 2 million, less than half of Tomb Raider, and Sony said it far surpassed expectations.
Other companies like Codemasters release niche games like F1 and Dirt Rally and make enough money to actually expand their development operations (they bought Evolution).
But yes, new IPs are a bit less prevalent this generation.
Look at Bloodborne. It sold over 2 million, less than half of Tomb Raider, and Sony said it far surpassed expectations.
Other companies like Codemasters release niche games like F1 and Dirt Rally and make enough money to actually expand their development operations (they bought Evolution).
But yes, new IPs are a bit less prevalent this generation.
Samurai G0SU
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Plzzzzz tomorrow. Plzzzzzzzzzzzzz