It's got the exact same stink that Concord and Suicide Squad had (among many others). Anybody who's paid the slightest bit of attention this gen can smell this flop from a mile away.
It's amazing just based off looks you can tell if a game is trash. Hard to tell for indie games who will usually have budget production values, but for high budget games it seems looks can correlate.
The "only around 10% of the full game units sold are from first party" sentence was just a part of a reply to a post saying people buy PS because of first party games.
I swear, every single time when a game made a bad first (and second, and third) impression, the final game came out and proved to be every bit as bad as we feared (or even worse)
yurinka
is right and she just decided she has enough money so she retired at 49.
She got canned, or at minimum pressured out.I swear, every single time when a game made a bad first (and second, and third) impression, the final game came out and proved to be every bit as bad as we feared (or even worse)
See also: Destruction Allstars, Redfall, Saints Row, Forspoken, Veilguard, Star Wars Outlaws, Immortals of Aveum…You can go on and on.
Of course Fairgame$ has the added stink of the studio founder & head leaving shortly before their first game launches. But maybe
A lot of people dont understand what getting fired looks like for these execs and people who run major divisions. It's not like it is for us peasants. They are able to leave quietly and respectably with their dignity intact. It's designed to look like a voluntary exit.
Bonnie Ross just happened to leave for a family emergency right when Microsoft laid off Frankie, Kiki Wolfkill and restructured the studio.
Yea, Bonnie Ross is one of the more obvious cases, she was clearly shitcanned after Shitfinite bombed in every way, but yoiu see how they played it.
I can't believe this even needs to be pointed out still. If a big shot leaves the company, 99% chance it's because either someone else offered them more money, or they were asked to resign. And if it happens in the midst of negative sentiment + questioning of the company's direction, then you can bet was the latter.
What do we think happened with Carrie Patel over at Obsidian. Did she chose to leave for Netflix Games after shipping the hugely successful Avowed?
Carrie didn't leave before the games release. She waited till the game also had its first patch out. She just got a better job offer by Netflix.What do we think happened with Carrie Patel over at Obsidian. Did she chose to leave for Netflix Games after shipping the hugely successful Avowed?
What do you think people like myself andTopher and many others buy a Playstation for?
First. Party. Games.
I think it was because she realized there were too many crusty white people at Obsidian and she wanted to help a person of color to replace her.What do we think happened with Carrie Patel over at Obsidian. Did she chose to leave for Netflix Games after shipping the hugely successful Avowed?
Of course Fairgame$ has the added stink of the studio founder & head leaving shortly before their first game launches. But maybe
She was in a top position of top performing Ubisoft IPs, games and studios. Only with the salary and bonuses she got there, she already earned several millions.
Nothing leads to think it's the case, both Hermen and Cerny praised how productive was their dev team, being even ahead of schedule, while also being very impressed with the inhouse tech they were building.
It's nonsensical to say he was fired. He was breaking all time records in basically all metrics for all areas (in some cases for their company in others for any console maker in gaming history) and growing in most areas, he was the most successful console maker CEO in gaming history. There was absolutely no reason to fire him.
How are you quantifying better? That's not a good look for her or the game she just shipped.
True.
Carrie wasn't involved with The Outer Worlds 2 or Grounded 2. The studio wasn't going to be doing a Pillars of Eternity 3. Josh Sawyer does his own thing, he finished Pentiment and could work on any game he wishes, he is like the top star of Obsidian and gets deference.
This might be your shortest post ever. Are you feeling ok?
Competence cannot just be judged by revenue and profits. It's entirely possible for a company to generate short term revenue and profits with dubious methods and behaviors that end up sinking a company long term. We are seeing that with Intel now.
Could have but you don't know. It's anyone's guess how much she was making at Obsidian or now at Netflix.
That was legendary showcase.
Concord at least had the benefit of the doubt because the first trailer was a bunch of nothing, so it could go either good or bad, turns out it was worse than anyone expected just by looking at its utter failure, but this Failgames is worst because from the minute 1 you see what it is, what it looks like and what it's about and nothing is appealing, yet this trash is going forward and about to crash and burn just as bad as Concord did, you could think people in charge having this knowledge would try to avoid it, but here we are, about to witness another trainwreck
They didn't lose BILLIONS though.
My point is, I don't think she was fired. She completed her work before moving on. Avowed is still an 8/10 game.
Bro I wasn't trying to start a debate about whether Jade Raymond has enough money to retire, way to miss the point.
Possibly not. For all we know she could have started searching for a new job once the sales numbers came in because she knew getting fired or demoted was inevitable.
Why did I try to zoom in to read that?I can sense a Yurinka reply incoming.
I think it's silly if they were being genuine. You've been one of the more unbiased posters on gaf.
I hope "Toxic Positivity" becomes THE lesson everyone takes from this generation. Absolutely baffling how anyone can sink hundreds of millions and several years making something your audience just absolutely, unequivocally, finds 100% undesirable.
Indeed.
AI don't understand you.
Are they doing a game to play themselves or so people, you know, consumers, find say product appealing and support it by purchasing it?
Concord failed miserably, people didn't like it, to double down on the same trash and expect a different result is what's dumb here
Not dumped, just stood up... for what? A big ole maybe next gen? No. Thank. You.
well, they failed. They made a massive investment into this shit and they've come up with jack shit. And I would argue the process was the problem. All the stuff that happened was easily predictable. In the end their most successful multiplayer games are stuff they've had around for 10+ years like Gran Turismo.
Hey! Stop reading my mind. I don't think PS6 can be salvaged and they've lost yet another life-long PS customer.
Oh whatever, practically every existing IP has been "updated for modern audiences" over the last decade, it's not like this is just some phenomenon that is limited to new IPs by new developers (or limited to video games for that matter). The only reason they're making new IPs is because they're running out of existing ones to ruin.
I dont think the people that actively push for "toxic positivity" will ever see it as a bad thing and will just distribute blame as usual since nothing is "their fault" ever .. .. so the lesson to learn is to fire these people and put a competent individual in its place.
Well I consider myself "their original audience" and for me and many others here they definitely stop serving the "good stuff" ... chasing the golden egg goose is great .. just dont fuck up your business while you are doing it.. and consequences of this choices would never appear in short term, so lets see if ps6 launch is going to be as successful as the ps5 .. and if not I wonder how the shills will spin it
