I live in the UK too.
The Pure Edition is basically the SIM-unlocked you buy with MotoMaker on their website.
https://www.motorola.co.uk/motomaker
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Rumour: Next Google Nexus Phone Called Nexus X; 5.9" 1440p screen, 13MP, 2.7 GHz, OCT
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But the manufacturers that do make phones with on-screen buttons usually never take advantage of that and instead make their phones have big top and bottom bezels.
DrFaustPhD
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I hate onscreen buttons. Look at that thick black button bar. Compare it to a Galaxy Note 4 which has a small bezel with buttons, avoiding the need to waste half an inch of the screen.
Ugh.
If the price is right (349/400) I'll probably pick this up. But fuck onscreen buttons.
As a Note 2 owner, I find Samsung's capacitive/hardware button combo super obnoxious. Those capacitive buttons in particular are the worst, they're so easy to accidentally press, and as a cherry on top they don't even respond to the stylus. Onscreen buttons aren't perfect either, but from my memory of owning a galaxy nexus it was definitely preferable to samsung's layout. I don't really understand the screen real-estate argument with them. In any app that it makes a meaningful difference, they disappear. It's not like my home screen or web browsing is where a little extra height makes a difference to my experience, its pictures and videos and games and media things like that.
I'm probably one of the few that think all hardware buttons is best, but considering that's definitely not going to happen on a phone that'll appeal to me, on-screen is my real-world top choice.
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Moto X and Galaxy S5. Moto X is smaller in every dimension (well, except the thickest point at the hump, which is actually beneficial to hand feel) but has a slightly larger screen. That bottom bezel pretty much only exists to put the speaker there. Besides, if the bezel were as thin on bottom as they are on the sides, it'd be too easy to hit buttons with the fleshy part of your palm... like I already do too often on my Note 2.
EDIT 2: Fair enough! Although I'm happy to have front facing speakers, granted I haven't seen for myself how the apple ones perform. Speaker placement on phones is often something that makes me scratch my head.
That's why I said usually, also the speakers could be added at the bottom like how Apple does.As a Note 2 owner, I find Samsung's capacitive/hardware button combo super obnoxious. Those capacitive buttons in particular are the worst, they're so easy to accidentally press, and as a cherry on top they don't even respond to the stylus. Onscreen buttons aren't perfect either, but from my memory of owning a galaxy nexus it was definitely preferable to samsung's layout. I don't really understand the screen real-estate argument with them. In any app that it makes a meaningful difference, they disappear. It's not like my home screen or web browsing is where a little extra height makes a difference to my experience, its pictures and videos and games and media things like that.
I'm probably one of the few that think all hardware buttons is best, but considering that's definitely not going to happen on a phone that'll appeal to me, on-screen is my real-world top choice.
EDIT:
Moto X and Galaxy S5. Moto X is smaller in every dimension (well, except the thickest point at the hump, which is actually beneficial to hand feel) but has a slightly larger screen. That bottom bezel pretty much only exists to put the speaker there. Besides, if the bezel were as thin on bottom as they are on the sides, it'd be too easy to hit buttons with the fleshy part of your palm... like I already do too often on my Note 2.
Android One is an okay plan, but let's see how it sells first. You do realize that in some of these HUGE markets google has little to no influence. They can't even control their own OS and you think its wise to ignore potential competitors? Your hubris would be welcome at Nokia or Blackberry in 2008.
Even if Firefox OS and Tizen capture 1% of the market in India, that's 10 million more people not using Googles services.
Tizen and Firefox OS will probably go nowhere in the west, but you would be a fool to not take them seriously elsewhere.
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The Everyman
theyve been talking about switching the galaxy s to tizen for years now though, right? they themselves know that they cant because they're sales would tank drastically. they're already slumping on android.
huawei turned down tizen because they know it has no chance.
They could easily do it in China, where Google services are nonexistent. That's a significant market.
Thats the only place they could do it. And it would lose Google like zero customers because they don't really have a presence there anyway.
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The Everyman
fair enough, but google is blitzing devleoping nations pretty hard right now. they're established, the software is elegant, and it's already free. even windows phone is now free to license.
if im a manufacturer comparing which free OS i want to slap on my cheap phone, i dont understand how tizen leap frogs Windows, and Android. The OS as it is right now also just doesn't look very appealing.
They still choose to use a forked version of Android over starting from scratch on something like Tizen though.
Google just wont get anything directly from it. But you can bet that any of those Chinese developers already familiar with developing on a forked version of Android will still try to publish their apps on the Google Play store. So there's that going for Google.
DrFaustPhD
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Current and lost customers are the only ones that matter? I'm sure that's a common perspective in big business...
I agree as it stands either FF or Tizen don't look enticing. Who knows how quickly that could change though.
In this particular case? Yes. Google is never going into China hardcore ever because they disagree with the way things are done over there. There isn't ever going to be a large push of their services in that country period, including Android One.
They don't have customers there to lose, and never will. Not to mention this is pretty far away from the initial statement that Samsung would be able to replace Googles Android with Tizen successfully which is completely ridiculous. The only place they could even try pushing Tizen on their customers is in the country where there really is no Google Android to begin with. And even then, Baidu and the currently existing Android forks in China would crush Tizen like a bug.
Phoenix
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You guys really don't know much about the various ecosystems and what's actually available for them.
enlighten us, they have such goodwill out there after their Bada fiasco, people can't wait to jump into that again. But hey, any quarter now Tizen is totally going to launch... in Russia.
None of that matters, Samsung needs google, not the other way around.
Shining Sunshine
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Can't wait for poster size phones.
Your math is poor. India doesn't have a billion smartphone users, it's around 100 million which is like 10% of their population. 1% user base means 1 million users and that is literally nothing. Also Google has complete control of things in India, and other countries like Brazil, Pakistan, Nepal etc. It's just China where Google doesn't have any power to do anything significant.
I will still say that you are being delusional, and over blowing unreasonable expectations.
Is that so?
https://www.abiresearch.com/press/2q-2014-smartphone-results-forked-android-aosp-gro
Forked Android has a 20% market share worldwide
Marion Cobretti
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I want this so badly. I really hope it magically hits $300-350.
Horse Armour
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Zero chance of that.
After a year or so it will.
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The Everyman
i think itll hit 300-350. if the one plus could do it with similar specs then why not this, right?
it'll have a version around there... going bigger means parts can be gotten cheaper.
That fucking blackberry.
Waffle size.
Haint
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It's larger and higher spec than the One+ and Google has an established reputation of creeping up Nexus pricing. $300 ain't happening period, there is a small chance they'll try to be aggressive with a $349 entry point, $399 is the best odds, and $449-$499 are more likely than $349.
FireAndBlood
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Will this phone have a customizable back like the Moto X?
Considering the fact that Google isn't very supportive of customizations, I would say no. Black and white will most likely be the only possible versions. Also as soon as this device releases, it is gonna be out of stock for a while. Besides that, it's just Moto who offers such wide variety of color options.
northead
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You're more than welcome ^^Ooh! Thanks for that - this becomes a serious consideration!
Chances are it'll start at $400, same price of the Nexus 5 (because 32GB).
burnside13
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My 5.5' LG G3 is practically over kill in everyday use but I'm happy regardless.
5.9' would certainly be too big unless there was a practical reason to a screen that big.
5.9' would certainly be too big unless there was a practical reason to a screen that big.
aorange999
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I use a Lumia 1520 with a 6" screen, and it's quite big but definitely usable. When it came to getting an iPhone last week I chose to get the regular 6 because 4.7" is really the best size for a daily driver. I might try this latest nexus if the price point is $399, the new android seems interesting.
That fucking blackberry.
Is.....is that a real phone?
I would wait if you can, they'll probably liquidate the Nexus 5 at a low price like they did with the 4 last year soon. Although they might just keep the 5 around and launch the 6 at a higher price, that's also possible.
If the enclosure is the same size as the Note 4 and iPhone 6+ then why not have bigger screens. Bigger screens with smaller bezels are a nice combination. After using the Note 2 for almost 2 years I want a bigger screen rather than a smaller one, so it'll be between this and the Note 4 for me.
InaudibleWhispa
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A 5.9" screen is still a 5.9" screen. Having a thin bezel and good use of space doesn't make my thumb stretch to reach the outer edges. Which is fine for some people, but others would prefer something with a bit more flexibility.
No question that it's going to be a somewhat niche option. I just think the notion that it is an aberration with no market is misguided. There will be demand for this if the specs/price are good, which seems likely. It won't be a top seller like M8, S5, iPhone, etc..., but it should do fairly well.
While that is definitely true I think they are alienating more people than they are gaining by going this big. And before someone replies with the usual "it's a developer phone, not a consumer phone", go watch any Nexus 5 commercial. All of them are aimed at general consumers and none of them are aimed at developers. Here's an example. Or just take a look at the official Nexus 5 site.
InaudibleWhispa
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It definitely has a market. Even I'll consider it, but I'll definitely have to go hands on with it first before making a decision if it is that big. Otherwise it'll be a Z3 for me.
Yep. The Nexus line is really meant as more of a reference platform than any notion of a 'developer phone'. As such they have squarely targeted the mid-high range while keeping the price reasonable with previous outings.
That fucking blackberry.
Y'know, I'd hate to say this, but I actually considered a Passport the other day when I was in the store looking at the Moto X. Now it's a three way race between the Nexus X, Moto X, and the Passport.
SolidSnakeUS
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This may sound stupid, but will the Nexus 6 just be announced or is there going to be a Google event we don't know about? Also, with the 6, do you think they're abandoning the 5 (or a newer version of it)?
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