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Russia Plans To Use Prison Labor For 2018 World Cup
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Cereal KiIIer
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Putting innocent people in jail to have a bigger workforce?
I'll be lying if I never thought that all those prisoners would serve a greater purpose if they were working on infrastructure projects. As long as they get paid and working humanely and have choice to reject, I don't see a problem.
Power abuse is prone to happen, but well, power abuse always prone to happen.
Power abuse is prone to happen, but well, power abuse always prone to happen.
Enter the Dragon Punch
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it isn't free to jail people
There's even more of an incentive to make power abuses happen if there's a profit to be made
Glitchfire
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They should make minimum wage.
CarpeDeezNutz
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Are all the for profit prisons salivating at the thought of bringing this to America?
Glitchfire
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This is the scariest part. Slippery slope.
What, The World Cup?
ah, so we already got to the land of assumptions
Not really. All these America is just like Russia crap is just people thinking they are clever.
CarpeDeezNutz
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I don't think America is like Russia at all, but these profit prisons trip me out, like could they take big govt contracts and make cash money off them? Someone enlighten me.
Yeah. Which is why we can't have nice thing. Money corrupts, there is always a chance that someone will abuse the "good idea" for their personal gain.
If I remember correctly, it has happened in the past in US. I remember watching it on NatGeo, a corrupt prison warden forced the prisoners to work and pocket the money?
Edit: I won't tell what Russian should do, they should be know better of their country than me.
Glitchfire
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Lets take away jobs from civil citizens and give them to prisoners.
NobleXenon
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Sounds like a good way for sabotage.
This, plus aren't people thrown in prison just for being openly gay in Russia?
I mean, i guess hypothetically i would be ok with this if the prisoners were allowed to refuse, they were fairly compensated, and had fair/safe working conditions. However i would doubt that the US, let alone Russia, would do something like this without some sleazy, inhumane, and/or corrupt shit going down.
Cheap labour in poor conditions and money stays in the governments hands so there is more opportunities for corruption.
Those two off the top of my head. If you can't have slave labour like Quatar, get your political dissenters and criminals to do it for you!
It's easy to be cynical when we are talking about a country that has such a heavy history with labour camps and corruption.
ClosingADoor
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History? Still ongoing, but now with imported North Korean slaves http://www.vice.com/video/north-korean-labor-camps-part-1
GoodMorningPluto
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But they will make 2.5 times larger than minimum wage (which is ~6000 RUR).
Vermillion
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Yeah, I don't see an issue, tbh. Prisoners giving back. So long as it's all humane.
In a country with pretty much 100% corrupt government, extremely bribable police force, a history of jailing and killing people for political reasons, laws that can put people in jail simply for being homosexual? Nah, what could go wrong!
SliceSabre
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I haven't read anything in here that makes me see what's so wrong about this besides the fact its Russia.
Vermillion
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That doesn't change whether they use the prisoners to build stuff or not, you know.
I don't know, sounds not bad to me. If you have to sit in prison you might as well do some work and earn a bit of pocket money for some luxus behind the grey walls. 300 Dollar aren't that bad if you don't actually have to pay for rent or food.
Of course it remains to be seen what conditions are waiting for them while building, but in general, this seems liek a good idea.
Of course it remains to be seen what conditions are waiting for them while building, but in general, this seems liek a good idea.
Vermillion
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Most countries would outsource the labor either way.
It just makes it extremely likely that government turns its political opponents into what is effectively slave labor.
Opposed to outright killing or jailing their political opponents into prison. Prisons weren't invented for the 2018 world cup.
Every country does this, in particular USA which isn't surprising considering it has the highest prison population in the world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Prison_Industries
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Prison_Industries
SymbiantXenos
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Well they sent a fair few to Ukraine as 'rebels'. So this isn't shocking news.
Build world class stadiums with prison labor instead of regular civilians?
Force the prison population into low-paid mandatory work.
O rly, captain obvious. So you can't see any problem with turning prisons and prison population into a thing that becomes more and more useful the the more you have them instead? I have the same basic problem with USA's prison for profit system. Prisons should be a solution to a societal problem, not means to turn a huge profit.
acheron_xl
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Well, this wasn't a subject I expected a GAF consensus in support of. I guess people in prison deserve literally whatever they have coming to them. It's OK though, I'm sure Russia would never mistreat their forced labor.
GTP_Daverytimes
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$300 dollars a month seems to be a rather decent pay for prisoners, assuming they get to make use of it. I see absolutely nothing wrong with this.
Funnily enough though the US bans the import of goods made using prison labour.
Visualante2
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Undercutting real jobs
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