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Russian anger at Turkey over Syria plane interception

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Joel Was Right

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19912532#TWEET265188

Moscow has accused Turkey of putting the lives of Russian passengers in danger by using its military to force a Syria-bound plane to land in Ankara. The Syrian Air plane, from Moscow, was intercepted and searched on Wednesday on suspicion it was carrying weapons. Officials in both Russia and Syria have strongly denied the allegations, with Damascus accusing Turkey of "piracy" and violating international law.

The incident has increased already high tensions between Turkey and Syria. Shelling from within Syria killed five Turkish civilians last week - in response, Turkey fired into Syria for the first time since the uprising against President Bashar al-Assad began last year. Meanwhile, Syria's Sana state news agency has reported an attack on a bus close to its border with Lebanon. It said eight passengers had been killed and eight injured when "terrorists" opened fire on the bus. Shortly before the plane was grounded, Russian President Vladimir Putin had postponed a visit to Turkey, scheduled for next week, citing a heavy workload. The visit will now take place on 3 December, said Turkey.

The Airbus A320 airliner with about 30 passengers on board was intercepted on Wednesday evening by two Turkish fighters and escorted to the capital's Esenboga airport. Turkey's Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu told the Anatolia news agency that illegal and "objectionable" cargo which "should have been reported" was found during a search and confiscated. He did not specify whether any weapons had been found, but unconfirmed reports in Turkish media said the seized items included boxes of military communication equipment.

But Russia's foreign ministry spokesman Alexander Lukashevich said Turkish officials had failed to inform Moscow that Russian citizens were on the plane. "We are concerned that this emergency situation put at risk the lives and safety of passengers, who included 17 Russian citizens," he said. "The Russian side continues to insist on an explanation of the reasons for such actions by the Turkish authorities."

The plane was allowed to take off at 02:30 (23:30 GMT on Wednesday), after several hours on the ground. Turkey's foreign ministry said there was "no basis" for Moscow's safety concerns. "After the landing, all measures were taken to ensure the safety of all passengers and to cater to their possible needs," the ministry said. In a statement quoted by AFP, it said the pilot had been asked to turn back while over the Black Sea, before entering Turkish airspace. Syrian Transport Minister Mahmoud Saeed accused Turkey of carrying out "air piracy" and breaking civil aviation agreements, according to Lebanon's al-Manar TV.

Gaida Abdul Latif, the head of Syrian Air, said the Turkish military aircraft "forced the plane to land without giving prior warning to the pilot". "The military aircraft were so close that there could have been an accident," she said. Meanwhile the plane's flight engineer, Haitham Kasser, said he witnessed the search, and that the crew had not objected to Turkish officials' requests to remove some of the cargo. But when the crew refused to hand over the boxes in question without a receipt, the officials returned with members of the armed forces, he said.

"They handcuffed us and made us lie on the ground, then they took us out of the plane in two vehicles," he told the Associated Press within Syria. Mr Davutoglu said Turkey remained determined to stop any transfer of weapons to Syria through its airspace. In another sign of deteriorating relations, Turkish officials revealed on Thursday that Syria had stopped buying electricity from its neighbour last week.

US Senator John McCain has meanwhile said the US should intervene in Syria, to help create safe zones and get arms and support to the anti-Assad rebels. The countries in the region were "crying out for American leadership" on Syria, he told the BBC, but he dismissed the idea of sending US troops into Syria. On Wednesday, the US confirmed that it had a military task force working in Jordan, helping to plan for a potential regional escalation of the Syrian conflict and in monitoring the security of Syria's chemical and biological weapons.​
 

SUPREME1

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Russia is knee deep in this shit and now they wanna cry foul?

Fuck off.



Also, smh at Cain whining about needing American intervention... but not wanting actual troops on the ground. Stfu old man. You lost, get over it.
 
I wonder were those 17 Russian citizens going on a vacation to Damascus.

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If they had weapons/military equipment on board then International Law is clear that its the Russian's/Syrians in the wrong (its basically so you can't use civilian shields).

I'd say though there was no danger to the passengers from Turkey's actions though; but they probably shouldn't make this a regular event unless they can show evidence of weapons being transported this way. It is piracy at the end of the day - if it were over Turkish air space then fair enough; the Russians would also have the ability to say no Russian planes will fly to Turkey or over their air space. But seizing a plane outside of your space is very much a different matter entirely.


Also all the war screamers should really calm their tits quite frankly; its getting dull.
 

SUPREME1

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There isn't going to be WWIII over Syria. A shit country with little oil.


Turkey > Syria

Russia > Turkey

NATO > Russia

Israel > Iran

Iran > Israel + US military basis in Arab countries

USA > Iran

Russia > USA

China > USA

India > Pakistan

Pakistan > India + US military bases in Afghanistan

Saudi Arabia > Iran

Australia > Pakistan

DPRK > Japan

USA > DPRK

GB + India + Australia + Canada > Pakistan

Venezuela > Colombia

Brazil > Venezuela





WWIII
 
Turkey > Syria

Russia > Turkey

NATO > Russia

Israel > Iran

Iran > Israel + US military basis in Arab countries

USA > Iran

Russia > USA

China > USA

India > Pakistan

Pakistan > India + US military bases in Afghanistan

Saudi Arabia > Iran


WWIII

LOL Russia > US....sure. There fleet of 1980'S equipment is scary and shit.

edit: Man you list couldn't be more incorrect. Pakistan > India? Take a nap.
 

SUPREME1

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LOL Russia > US....sure. There fleet of 1980'S equipment is scary and shit.

edit: Man you list couldn't be more incorrect. Pakistan > India? Take a nap.



Yeah, I know it loosk foolish... but I didn't mean to use > as a sign of who beats who, but as a symbol of who will attack who.
 
Yeah, I know it loosk foolish... but I didn't mean to use > as a sign of who beats who, but as a symbol of who will attack who.

Ah...

More like

Israel attacks Iran
Rest if middle east attacks Israel
USA attacks Iran
China sanctions the US
Russia attacks Turkey
Nato attacks Russia
Shit hits the fan.
 

Salvadora

Member
Turkey > Syria

Russia > Turkey

NATO > Russia

Israel > Iran

Iran > Israel + US military basis in Arab countries

USA > Iran

Russia > USA

China > USA

India > Pakistan

Pakistan > India + US military bases in Afghanistan

Saudi Arabia > Iran

Australia > Pakistan

DPRK > Japan

USA > DPRK



WWIII

Not a chance in hell this will happen.
 
Ah...

More like

Israel attacks Iran
Rest if middle east attacks Israel

USA attacks Iran
China sanctions the US
Russia attacks Turkey
Nato attacks Russia
Shit hits the fan.

Sunni countries take revenge on Israel because they attacked a Shii country? Saudis hate the Iranians more than the Israelis probably.
 
Ah...

More like

Israel attacks Iran
Rest if middle east attacks Israel
USA attacks Iran
China sanctions the US
Russia attacks Turkey
Nato attacks Russia
Shit hits the fan.

Depending on the President in power - Iran attacks the US following the Israeli attacks.
Romney's blank check to Israel's military means NATO doesn't jump in; whilst the US openly attacking Iran leaves it isolated from NATO.

Either way Iran is unlikely to lead to 'shit hitting the fan'.

Russia doesn't attack Turkey, Turkey attacks Russian jets accompanying their military supplies for Syria. NATO enforce the European border but does not attack. Cold War 2.

Before this though Syria becomes the Cuban Crisis 2; theres a good chance NATO will get involved, forcing a stand off over Russian supplies for Syria. By then however NATO will push for more backing of the rebels, ending the stand off by removing the supply chain - not affecting any Russian assets/military but ending the need for a stand off.
 

brumx

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The only country that would give the USA a challenge is Russia and maybe China if they merged Japan only
 

DopeyFish

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Everybody is missing China invades Japan from their WW3 scenarios

Shame

Also Russia > Canada, unfortunately

In an all out war, even if to not attack civilian (which Russia had planned to do before) they will go after the arctic in the hopes they keep it when the dust settles
 

genjiZERO

Member
Sunni countries take revenge on Israel because they attacked a Shii country? Saudis hate the Iranians more than the Israelis probably.

Yeah the idea is absurd. But, more realistically, if Israel invades Iran and the US follows, I could see civil war erupting throughout the Middle East.
 

Dmented

Banned
Also Russia > Canada, unfortunately

In an all out war, even if to not attack civilian (which Russia had planned to do before) they will go after the arctic in the hopes they keep it when the dust settles

Must not worry, the hat will be protected.
 

Einhander

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The Syria-Turkey conflict is heating up day-by-day.

Sometimes I feel like some segments of GAF want World War 3 to happen, in reality, if it did start, they'd be wishing otherwise.
 
The Syria-Turkey conflict is heating up day-by-day.

Sometimes I feel like some segments of GAF want World War 3 to happen, in reality, if it did start, they'd be wishing otherwise.

Turkey-Syria would not really be a war though, Syria is heavily in need of supplies and Turkey is unmatched in the region, Turkey could occupy but that would take a couple of months of fighting or they could do critical damage and hand it over to the rebels.

It could end very fast, on the assumption of no other nations joining the conflict.
 

Emily Chu

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you ever feel like people are super naive these days ?

oh it'll never happen again... not a chance

pretty sure that was said at the beginning of WWI

whats so different now ?
 

Jezbollah

Member
My probably ignorant feelings in relation to an escalation of the situation in Syria:

It's doubtful that the USA will do anything right now, with the election coming up.

I dont think China will do anything given their reliance on the free market and their desire to maintain and grow their economy.

And Russia will huff and puff but they've already shown to have had their hand in the cookie jar with these munitions shipments (and previously the disclosure of their hardware maintenance contracts with Assad).

I see more UN Vetos being being used than missiles between the USA, China and Russia here. Syria will continue to be a rebellion with limited foreign influence and any strike on Iran will be from Israel (ala Iraq 81) with denial of involvement from anyone else.
 
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