Chiggs
Gold Member
They will.
They do. But it doesn't matter.
If we see RE5: Remake, I'd expect a ton of changes to the indigenous population.
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They will.
They do. But it doesn't matter.
If we see RE5: Remake, I'd expect a ton of changes to the indigenous population.
EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
But you could have argued that about RE4....yet here we are with a remake.
If they cared that badly about that shit, not only would we not have a remake of RE4, we wouldn't have a remaster of RE5....
Why would they release it if they cared so badly about any of that? So I think you'll see some changes sure as RE4 literally has a lot, like Leon actually speaking Spanish and understanding what they are saying. So I think you'll get a RE5 remake 100%, I think we get a remake that also has a better explanation about them getting infected too. I think a lot of it is a non-issue.
Rykan
Member
Nah, they aren't remaking any of the spin off and they've already skipped over it. RE5 was also much more popular.
Team Andromeda
Member
It was a few months after the game, came out.
Team Andromeda
Member
This place was all too ready to call RE7 a flop and as I said at the time, I found it amazing how any game that sells more than 4 million is considered a flop no matter what sales target Capcom set, but tCapcom hate was strong then
Still, some like to make out Bayonetta 3 a sales success for selling a million copies. Amazing the double standards when it comes to a developer
Roufianos
Member
So it's gonna sell a lot less copies than other recent games in the series which it's currently outpacing?
Nautilus
Banned
Code Veronica is not a spin off entry, as any who have played it would say to you. It's actually the true RE 3. It is quite necessary to explain some of the events that will happen in RE 5, and about a certain important character.
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Rykan
Member
It is a spin off. That's why it's not a numerical entry, and why it's being skipped as a remake. The theory that its actually the real RE3 has long been debunked.
Capcom is not going to base their decision to remake CV based on some story related detail. The vast majority of people who played RE5 didn't play CV anyway.
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Nautilus
Banned
But it is a main entry, because it has vital plot details to the main series, regardless of how people feel about it. It was always intended to be RE 3, and the other RE became 3 because Capcom needed a big seller, and Code Veronica wasn't ready in time for that.
Capcom will want to "pad out" these string of Remakes for as long as they can, because once they do 5 and 6, if they decide to jump main entries like Code Veronica, there won't be more remakes to make. So yeah, it's only logical to remake Code Veronica first, before moving on to RE 5, if they want to milk this as much as they can.
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Henry Panic
Banned
Yes, just like the other games that did the same.
Rykan
Member
It doesn't matter if it has vital plot details. Having plot related details in spin-offs isn't uncommon, and it's not a qualification for being a main entry. What you've said about RE 3 isn't entirely accurate. Resident Evil 3 was originally intended to be a spin off or rather "Side Story" to use more accurate terminology. This was later changed to a proper numbered sequel, and thus it became Resident Evil 3.
You are correct in the sense that Resident Evil: Code Veronica can be “considered” a mainline entry in all but name, as it was a continuation from Resident Evil 2,
However, it was never intended to be Resident Evil 3 as Capcom only wanted the mainline (Or numbered games) to be on Playstation at the time.
It's not logical to remake Resident Evil 4 before remaking Resident Evil Code Veronica. Code Veronica came out before Resident Evil 4.
It has clearly been skipped. It doesn't make sense to go back to Resident Evil: CV instead of moving on to Resident Evil 5.
Capcom would likely want to release more remakes, but the challenges of over-saturation and rising development costs are likely larger obstacles than the availability of titles to remake. It is doubtful that they can sustain their current pace of remakes and new entries for much longer.
Lunarorbit
Member
Well, you see back in colonial times there was a trans Atlantic slavery trade. /s
kvltus lvlzvs
Member
Re3r is really good. Not as good as re2r but it's short and tight, which is great.
kvltus lvlzvs
Member
There was a bunch of drama about it when the game was released, and things have - erm - progressed wildly since then.
I remember some people claiming muh racism for re4 because the ganados spoke Spanish. Hilarious
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Nautilus
Banned
No. I don't understand why people overcomplicate these things. The revelation games are spin off games, in the sense that while they do take place in the same timeline, and the events on it are canon, the events are irrevelant to the main storyline(or at least they largery are).
Code Veronica events are NOT irrelevant, regardless if people care or not about it, or if people can easily play RE 2 and then skip straight to RE 5. It's not like Capcom cares about the order of release all that much, as you can easily tell Code Veronica events as a flashback and take into account the events of RE4. Or you can just go back in time and remake RE 0, with a focus of telling Umbrella's story, its goals, and about the founders, which would tie nicely with Code Veronica, and finally with RE 5.
If Capcom was so worried about oversaturation, Capcom would have stopped doing these remakes a long time ago, as we had 1 RE game almost every year since RE 7 lol. It's not like "Oh no, we already did 3 remakes. Doing Code Veronica AND RE 5 would be too much, as the increasing ammount of sales we make on each RE game demonstrate. So lets just do RE 5 Remake" lol. What a lame excuse you've come with.
Besides, this thread is all about especulation. I'm not saying what will happen, but rather what I want to happen. I don't get this attotude of yours of "I know better", especially on light of Code Veronica being far more similar to the remakes in terms of structure, since RE 5 is a co op game.
Chiggs
Gold Member
This.
RE: Code Veronica took the Chris vs Wesker beef to a whole new level. And holy shit, did Chris ever take a beating.
Eh, I see what you're driving at, but feel your comment isn't quite doing the facts of the situation justice.
Resident Evi 3: Nemesis was actually known as Resident Evil 1.9 internally. It started out as a spin-off.
https://www.polygon.com/2019/12/18/...il-capcom-changed-its-mind-at-the-last-minute
Gonna have to disagree with you there, bud. Not that I don't get your point; it's just that shooting Spanish villagers is a lot less politically charged than shooting black villagers--and at one point, natives.
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Rykan
Member
Seems to me you're overcomplicating it . You're saying that CV isn't a spin off of while Revelations is because of some plot points that you've decided are more vital to the plot.
You're suggesting that Capcom "doesn't care about the order of release that much" when every single remake has been done in order of release of the numbered titles: 1,2,3 and recently 4.
It doesn't have to be that complex, mate. It's very straight forward: Capcom considers the numbered titles to be "Mainline" entries and everything else is considered to be a spin off. That's why only 1,2,3 and 4 got remade
Um..No. Just because they might be worried about eventual over saturation further down the line, doesn't mean they would have stopped making remakes long ago. They will probably keep remaking these games until they feel over saturation becomes a problem, or it becomes no longer feasible.
Ok but you straight up quotes my post and said "Code Veronica will be next."
Resident Evil 5's gameplay and controls were as similar to RE4 as CV were to RE 3 and 2.
Besides, It would be quite jarring to go back from RE4 remake with its increased focus on action to a RE2 style remake with Code Veronica. Resident Evil: CV sold a fraction of what RE5 sold. After the success of RE4, it makes more sense to follow that up with a similar title in Resident Evil 5, than CV.
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Nautilus
Banned
1 was never remaked in this new, recent wave of remakes. That remake is basically 20 years old by this point. So you yourself just proved that Capcom simply ignored the first mainline entry and remaked the SECOND game first. Capcom doesn't care if it's mainline or not, if it's numbered or not. They care what has more potential to sell. That's why they did 2 instead of 1(As the second entry is what made RE really popular, and people like 2 more than 1). It's why they did 4 before Code Veronica. It's a very compelling argument of why they might do 5 instead of Code Veronica, and not because "They only do numbered titles". Which is stupid at this point as they don't even properly numbered RE 8, calling it RE Village, and hiding the number in the letters.
And no, being mainline or not refers if that said title has plot important to the main storyline. That's how it always has been, and how will be going foward(MH dropped the numbers, RE seems to be dropping numbers, etc).
And since when a random user on the internet that says "Code Veronica will be next" knows for a fact that will indeed happen, and not you know, is speculating what next game is bound to be released? Did people all over the world lost the minimum of reading comprehension to understand this notion that we on a public forum share? Or do I have to be extremely specific on every single post I ever make? Instead of "Next game will be Code Veronica" I need to write "Hello everyone! I wish to say that, in my own humble, simple, and subjectivs opinion, that Capcom should remake a game that I feel like its important for the franchise story, which is Code Veronica. But I do hope everyone doesn't get offended by this humble, simple and dubjective wish of mine! If your own preffered game should be remade next, please do feel free to call me names and shut me up".
Some of you really need to go outside and touch some grass. Hell, after giving this response, I probably should too. So yeah,let's agree to disagree, and that will be the last response from me.
Roufianos
Member
Seems nonsensical. Resi 2 sold 11m units, and this is selling even quicker. The series has crazy legs.
Rykan
Member
You're being intellectually dishonest now, mate. You're just making up arbitrary rules so that you can exclude the first Resident Evil remake. How old Resident Evil Remake is or in which “style” it was remade is completely irrelevant. Resident Evil 2 was picked to be remade because Resident Evil 1 was already remade. That's it. All the remakes have been developed in numerical order.
Yeah, they're clearly playing around a bit with Resident Evil village's name, but they are clearly highlighting the VIII part in the Village Logo.
It's fine if you think that total sales numbers of the original entry are the sole defining factor in the order of release (Although by that logic, you could argue that they should have skipped 3 as well), but can we then at least agree that RE5 is much more likely to be remade over CV then?
That's not what mainline or spin off means. There are plenty of franchises that have some of their most important plot details take place in obvious spin-offs of the main entries.
I don't care how you formulate your opinion on here, but it's a bit hypocritical to tell me that I have an “Attitude” of “I know better” when that is quite literally what you're doing.
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TheInfamousKira
Reseterror Resettler
Resident Evil is kind of like Zelda to me. It's a franchise that's predictable by design, but throws in variations with settings, characters and gameplay gimmicks, resulting in an experience that's almost akin to an amusement park ride if you play the games in each series in release order and quick succession you can see the gameplay and design evolve right before your eyes in a rare sort of gameplay continuity. You can clearly see ideas from older games refined into staples, enemies with such a historical gaming scene relevance that you become like a murderous biologist guessing weaknesses and attacks from foes as soon as you see them because "Oh, I've spent five games killing squirmy things with fire, bet I should use fire on this squirmy thing," and that's a convoluted explanation, but one of you will understand the vibe.
Another point that makes them alike for me, and perhaps more relevant to this thread, is the fact that, according to my tastes, I don't really think there's a single bad entry in the mainline titles. There were titles that are less great than other great titles, but the rubric is based on overall competent games. There are some "evolutionary dead ends," I guess, gameplay or story ideas that were launched but quickly aborted or the devs realized the winds of the current fad were changing (i.e. RE5 trying super fucking hard to be a dude bro game, Twilight Princess going the srsedgy route) but there hasn't been a game in either series I haven't seen the merit of it's existence.
Because you guys asked.
Another point that makes them alike for me, and perhaps more relevant to this thread, is the fact that, according to my tastes, I don't really think there's a single bad entry in the mainline titles. There were titles that are less great than other great titles, but the rubric is based on overall competent games. There are some "evolutionary dead ends," I guess, gameplay or story ideas that were launched but quickly aborted or the devs realized the winds of the current fad were changing (i.e. RE5 trying super fucking hard to be a dude bro game, Twilight Princess going the srsedgy route) but there hasn't been a game in either series I haven't seen the merit of it's existence.
Because you guys asked.
NewYork214
Member
I'm waiting for the psvr2 update. I know if I play it now I won't return for vr version. Hopefully catch a sale around then too
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Now that's a good race\slave joke. I gotta give credit.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
The problem is that although shooting rural Europeans is fine, the virtue signallers would have a field day if it was rural Africans.
There is no rational justification, its just how some people are unable to get past the optics, and their own inherent biases of course.
In my opinion its really stupid, but if I were in Capcom's shoes I'd maybe wait a while to see if things get less reactionary.
DownLikeBCPowder
Member
It was originally planned to be the third game - you can kind of tell by it following the main plotline. What is RE3 was supposed to be the spin off - it just didn't end up that way.
NeonGhost
uses 'M$' - What year is it? Not 2002.
Yeah
kiphalfton
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Dirk Benedict
Member
Game was fucking awesome. Did it achieve the Same Awesome As the Original? NO! But, it still really good.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Lots of people never played RE5 as it was the first big disappointment of the mainline series at the time and people were starting to experience franchise fatigue so I can't have been the only RE fan to skip it. It could do with a re-work to get it right.
But I agree last gen versions need to be dropped. That should have happened for RE4R.
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Camreezie
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Youre using logic that the people being upset by the scenario of the game cant grasp