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[Nickolaidas]

A 24GB Nvidia GeForce RTX 5080 gaming GPU is now more likely, thanks to Samsung

Samsung's new 24Gb GDDR7 VRAM paves the way for a drop-in memory replacement for 16GB RTX 5080 graphics cards, without changing key specs.

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That's my purchase, if it comes in 2025.

 

[Bojji]

Same way we will have 5060 12gb and 5070 with 18gb.

But not at launch probably (maybe for 5060?).

 

[BlackTron]

 

[Bojji]

That changes nothing for 98% of games (at the moment).

 

[HRK69]

 

[CuNi]

24GB 5080 not gonna happen.
Maybe a year later the 5080ti, or a two tiered 5090.

 

[Makoto-Yuki]

Hopefully it has a decent improvement over 5080. Some rumors suggest it won't be. I'll probably just go for the 5090 to be safe.

 

[Lorianus]

So this is a announcement that those chips are existing but 50xx is set to launch in early 2025 no ?, so the boards for the cards would already be long in production by now, maybe with a super revision down the line i think.

 

[HRK69]

24GB 5080 not gonna happen.

Quoted for the future

 

[GHG]

Cute that people think this is going on their gaming GPU's.

It's for their AI products.

 

[BlackTron]

That changes nothing for 98% of games (at the moment).

It changes a lot for the prospects of buying a 5080. It is far more future proofed with the extra memory and the lack thereof made Nvidia's first version a dubious investment.

 

[GHG]

It changes a lot for the prospects of buying a 5080. It is far more future proofed with the extra memory and the lack thereof made Nvidia's first version a dubious investment.

The lack of memory on their mid-lower tier cards is the first bottleneck people encounter which forces them to upgrade, especially so with how far technologies like frame gen and AI upscaling have come, and they know this.

 

[Bojji]

It changes a lot for the prospects of buying a 5080. It is far more future proofed with the extra memory and the lack thereof made Nvidia's first version a dubious investment.

Yeah, more future proof fot sure but it will be also more expensive. We don't know what will come first, lack of Vram of 5080 16GB or lack of power of 5080 24GB.

 

[Lucifers Beard]

24GB 5080 would definitely be something I'm interested in. I play at 1440p and have no interest in 4K so I assume this would fit the bill nicely for several years.

 

[BlackTron]

Yeah, more future proof fot sure but it will be also more expensive. We don't know what will come first, lack of Vram of 5080 16GB or lack of power of 5080 24GB.

Nvidia has set things up so if you want 24GB, you need the most insane card they have a 5090. Go down one tier and you have to deal with 16. They're playing a game with gamers.

I can see a lot of people willing to pay for the memory without needing the immense horsepower of 5090.

 

[Cakeboxer]

Interesting, may consider it after a year or so.

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

Ah yes, affordable cutting edge gpu is just one mortgage away.

 

[CuNi]

Nvidia has set things up so if you want 24GB, you need the most insane card they have a 5090. Go down one tier and you have to deal with 16. They're playing a game with gamers.

I can see a lot of people willing to pay for the memory without needing the immense horsepower of 5090.

Most leaks and rumors point for the 5090 to be 32GB tho afaik.

 

[BlackTron]

Most leaks and rumors point for the 5090 to be 32GB tho afaik.

You're right I was just thinking wait wasn't it really DOUBLE? 24 is really probably just the natural sweet spot for a 5080. 5090 parity isn't required but we don't need an artificial nerf either.

 

[Amey]

or an 18GB version with 192bit mem bus.

 

[CompleteGlobalSaturation]

If this has 20GB+ I'll actually buy it day one, assuming this is a substantial upgrade over my RTX 4080.

 

[Gabe ♥]

Wait, what? samsung making gpus? whaaaatt

 

[Bojji]

Wait, what? samsung making gpus? whaaaatt

Samsung makes memory chips.

 

[Solarstrike]

Wait, what? samsung making gpus? whaaaatt

No. But they should buy Intel and continue making them.

 

[Radical_3d]

C'mon, AMD. Make a 5060 class with 12GB and AI upscaler. The market needs you…

 

[Gaiff]

More like a 5080 Ti.

 

[asdasdasdbb]

More like a 5080 Ti.

I think it's possible. I imagine they'd charge like an extra $200 though.

 

[TheRedRiders]

This is extremely ignorant of me to say, but isn't 16 GB enough? I imagine not many games are RAM bound especially at those numbers.

 

[asdasdasdbb]

This is extremely ignorant of me to say, but isn't 16 GB enough? I imagine not many games are RAM bound especially at those numbers.

More is always better... well except for the cost.

 

[StereoVsn]

24GB 5080 not gonna happen.
Maybe a year later the 5080ti, or a two tiered 5090.

Yep, they will make 5080 Super in a year with 24GB and slightly faster performance .

 

[SolidQ]

5080 laptop version 24gb

 

[StereoVsn]

Cute that people think this is going on their gaming GPU's.

It's for their AI products.

It will go to their gaming GPUs, but they will wait for Super or Ti revisions a year (give or take a few months) after initial launch.

 

[john2gr]

What a clickbait. Samsung didn't announce anything related to the 5080. There is simply a new GDDR7 memory chip. What makes you think that it will be used in the RTX 5080? If you've known NVIDIA, you'd already know that they might use it for a 5080Ti or 5080 SUPER (and, once again, that's a guess and nothing more).

 

[SF Kosmo]

24GB 5080 not gonna happen.
Maybe a year later the 5080ti, or a two tiered 5090.

Well I think the implication here is that this could end up in third party versions of the card, not the reference versions (which are already set), because it can essentially slot into existing designs and it makes an easy differentiators for these cards which are generally all close to identical other than cooling and tweaks to clock speed.

 

[hlm666]

Cute that people think this is going on their gaming GPU's.

It's for their AI products.

Don't they use hbm for those? I remember the specs for gb200 said something about 8TB/s of memory using hbm3e memory.

edit: quick check and they have been using hbm variants since hopper (h100), this memory isn't for them bandwidth probably too low.
edit 2: the tech specs for GB200 say up to 16TB/s hbm memory bandwidth and that article said the 5080 would have 1024GB/s bandwidth with that memory for comparison.

 

[Celcius]

An rtx 5080 with 24gb is still an rtx 5080.
Bring on the 5090!

 

[Imtjnotu]

Same way we will have 5060 12gb and 5070 with 18gb.

But not at launch probably (maybe for 5060?).

5070 with 16gb

 

[Bojji]

5070 with 16gb

It should have 18GB, 12 + 6 (changing 2GB to 3GB chips).

 

[Imtjnotu]

It should have 18GB, 12 + 6 (changing 2GB to 3GB chips).

Maybe in a super variant. But the 12gb is coming.

 

[Bojji]

Maybe in a super variant. But the 12gb is coming.

Yeah it will launch that, waste of GPU power IMO (like normal 4070ti)...

 

[The Cockatrice]

Until PS6 I have no desire to upgrade my GPU. Most games are unoptimized turds that rely on DLSS and framegen anyway. No point.

 

[Rentahamster]

That will be nice for video editors.

 

[Three]

Don't they use hbm for those? I remember the specs for gb200 said something about 8TB/s of memory using hbm3e memory.

edit: quick check and they have been using hbm variants since hopper (h100), this memory isn't for them bandwidth probably too low.
edit 2: the tech specs for GB200 say up to 16TB/s hbm memory bandwidth and that article said the 5080 would have 1024GB/s bandwidth with that memory for comparison.

Samsung Develops Industry’s First 24Gb GDDR7 DRAM for Next-Generation AI Computing

New GDDR7 offers industry-leading capacity and speed of over 40Gbps, significantly raising the bar for graphics DRAM powering future applications Validation with major GPU customers to begin this year, production slated for early next year

news.samsung.com

"With its high capacity and powerful performance, the 24Gb GDDR7 will be widely utilized in various fields that require high-performance memory solutions, such as data centers and AI workstations, extending beyond the traditional applications of graphics DRAM in graphics cards, gaming consoles and autonomous driving."

 

[Magic Carpet]

From the article-
"We're not expecting to see memory speeds as high as 42.5Gb/s, but recent rumors have put the RTX 5080 VRAM speed at 32Gbps, which is over 52% quicker than the 21Gbps GDDR6X VRAM used in the RTX 4090. If true, this would mean the RTX 5080 has a total memory bandwidth of 1,024GB/s, despite it being rumored to only have a relatively narrow 256-bit interface."

I think I have enough saved up for a 5080, But I'm going for the stretch goal of 5090.

 

[hlm666]

Samsung Develops Industry’s First 24Gb GDDR7 DRAM for Next-Generation AI Computing

New GDDR7 offers industry-leading capacity and speed of over 40Gbps, significantly raising the bar for graphics DRAM powering future applications Validation with major GPU customers to begin this year, production slated for early next year

news.samsung.com

"With its high capacity and powerful performance, the 24Gb GDDR7 will be widely utilized in various fields that require high-performance memory solutions, such as data centers and AI workstations, extending beyond the traditional applications of graphics DRAM in graphics cards, gaming consoles and autonomous driving."

So tell me what hardware this is going in, none of nvidia's use gddr. Last gen (hopper) and this gen (blackwell) use HBM. How are you going to sell AI hardware to compete with nvidia if your going to use gddr vs their hbm solutions??? Secondly my response was to a comment saying nvidia were putting this in their AI solutions and thus we wont see it in game gpus.

 

[CoreyFlawless]

Not happening with team NVIDIA

 

[deriks]

24GB 5080 not gonna happen.
Maybe a year later the 5080ti, or a two tiered 5090.

Dude, it's Samsung. They know shit

 

[Bojji]

Not happening with team NVIDIA

It will happen but xx months after launch and for a higher price of course!

 

[Trogdor1123]

I had thought it would be 24 gigs too but was told the 3 gig chips had issues? Has that been rectified?

 

[Mokus]

It's a lot more appealing with 24GB vram, but at what price is also important.