Fess
Member
Don't overthink it, there is always going to be something better coming soon. Just buy whatever fit the budget you are willing to have for your gaming hobby, and swap it out when you get annoyed by having to lower settings.
Nvidia GeForce RTX 5080 Super (24GB) & RTX 5070 Super (18GB) may be in the works
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
The 5080 should have been at least on par with the 4090.
OverHeat
« generous god »
The 5070 seems to have thankfully bombed, not sure about other places but stock has been available in the UK for the past two weeks now and places are even cutting prices on them.
//DEVIL//
Member
Same. Glad I was able to sell it for that high too . Was only 800$ short from the 5090FE after taxes and allHell no could not have sold mine at a profit if it was.
PeteBull
Member
If u dont have to buy new one, 4sure its best to skip 50xx series, but some ppl are sitting on lowend 30xx series(dat 8gigs vram 3060ti and 3070 wont do them any favours
) or even older cards so they dont have much choice, they can wait few weeks/couple months till prices stabilise, but really cant wait additional 2-3years till 60xx series launches(and u can bet it will be streetprice madness by then too).
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Larxia
Member
But the regular 5080 is already 1300€ lol
You're talking about prices from 2017. That would be nice... but it definitely won't happen sadly.
asdasdasdbb
Member
It'll be 24. 4 GB chips are on the roadmap but unlikely to be available in time.
PeteBull
Member
Nvidia wont be able to keep rtx 6080 at low vram simply coz we will have if not next gen consoles launched then at least their leaked or official specs, with that no1 will be spending 1200-1500usd for 6080 with anything less than 24gigs of vram while keeping in the back of their head new xbox and ps6 will have at least 24gigs.
Last gen ps4/xbox one had 8gigs so we kinda knew already in 2016 to not get the 3gigs 1060 or 4gigs 470/480 if we wanted to keep those cards longer than 2-3years aka not have to replace them right at next gpu family launch.
This gen same thing happened and at least concious customers knew right from the get go that if series x and ps5 got 16gigs, u gonna need at least 12gigs to keep things comfortable(once again rip 3060ti and 3070 owners, those cards are cooked nowadays, not only owners are forced to replace them even before console gen is over- they will get very lil on 2ndhand market coz next owner wont pay much for 8gigs used gpu anyways- checked US prices and its around 300usd for used 3070, only 50usd more from used 3060 yet msrp launch price was 500$ vs 330$(which made sense coz if not vram constrained 3070 is exactly 50% faster on avg).
TLDR: If u spent 500$ on ur 3070 in late 2020/early 2021 (it was 2nd wave of cryptoboom so who knows, chance is u had to pay way above msrp back then), u get doublefucked, on one side u gotta replace it earlier even tho it still has decent performance, just coz of small vram pool, and on the other when u gonna sell it u gonna get way less for the very reason new owner wont pay much for ur old 3070 simply coz it has obvious flaw of 8gigs vram pool.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Most likely will be around €1200 or so I am guessing.
PeteBull
Member
Yups makes sense, altho even now with bad 5080 sales those cards, even cheapest models with basic cooling arent at their msrp of 1119€ yet:
If nvidia announces 1200€ msrp, then u can bet streetprice at launch likey gonna be above1300€ and after few weeks when initial buying crazeh stops it will slowly go down to close to msrp- those retailers will use any excuse to sell at a hefty mark up, even trump tariffs in europe
//DEVIL//
Member
I am even surprised the 5080 prices were high in the first place.Yups makes sense, altho even now with bad 5080 sales those cards, even cheapest models with basic cooling arent at their msrp of 1119€ yet:
If nvidia announces 1200€ msrp, then u can bet streetprice at launch likey gonna be above1300€ and after few weeks when initial buying crazeh stops it will slowly go down to close to msrp- those retailers will use any excuse to sell at a hefty mark up, even trump tariffs in europe
When it comes to PC building there are 2 types. People that don't care about money and want nothing but the best, and people that look for budget OC or super decent pc that can last them for years without worrying about having every graphical details set to max.
The 5080 isn't in either categories. 5090 for the high end and usually 5070ti / 9070xt is for the mid range / budget.
5080 is neither and yet it was above msrp.
Now with that being said I don't believe msrp cards exist outside of the very basic none oc cards and usually not much of those around. Every other card that is OC or has decent cooler by default it will be higher than msrp. It's been like this since GTX 1000 series so I am not sure what people are expecting .
Still I think the 5080s with graphics close to the 4090 and 24gb will be the card to get and the load on the 5090 will be less demanding.
I just don't see the common sense in buying a 5090 for 2k when a 5080s for 1.3k and the 5090 is 27% only performance boost over 4090 ( assuming its same 4090 level ) and still has multi frame gen and display port 2.0 the 4090 lacks. So its way more future proof .
Even the sales of the 4090 used market will hit rock bottom once those 5080s cards are everywhere . No need to buy a 4090 at that point
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Hohenheim
Member
Yeah, the 5070 is in a weird spot with 9070 XT and 5070 TI doing knockouts on it with a quite small price increase.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
The only reason I got a 5080 is that I got lucky and got it close to MSRP ($1050) at Microcenter the day after I picked up 9070XT for MSRP, lol.
It was dumb, but I kept 5080 instead. I should have either kept 9070 XT or just waited till 5080 Super came out, but it is whet it is.
Sanepar
Member
Well they released 3080 in 2020 with 10gb and consoles were coming with 16gb so don't count with that.
Nvidia always fuck their consumers with vram.
HeisenbergFX4
Member
OverHeat
« generous god »
HeisenbergFX4
Member
Yeah5080 owners right now
amigastar
Member
What happened to the Texture Compression from Nvidia? I wanna see the effects so no 18gb are needed.
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MarV0
Member
Let me stop you right there. The 5070 ti at $750 is very far from mid range / budget.
Stop normalizing Ngredia's price gouging.
asdasdasdbb
Member
Unless it clocks way higher (possible) it's probably not a big improvement. Plus you have no idea what the price is going to be.
//DEVIL//
Member
Not to sound rude, but you need to stop living in middle age too.
Consoles were 300 and 400$. PS3 almost failed because of 500 and 600. ( these things were supposed to be the cheap of video games and what made them unique compared to PC in the first place )
inflations happens. milk and eggs are 5x the prices of 4 years. what is 750$ with the inflations and shit is pretty much a 400$ of 5 years ago.
blame the wars, greed of companies, inflation and the whole list of shit going on.
Do I wish the 5070 Ti was a $400$ card? Of course. But if AMD can't get it below $600 ( that is, with an even bigger rebate to AIB to get it at that price ), do you think Nvidia will?
This is a reality. You need to accept it. or move on to a different hobby, or stick to the used market, or older generation ( which I sometimes do . No shame in that )
isnt the friggin xbox series x 2tb a 600$ and that is 5 years old console ? you want a 5070ti that stomps on this console to be cheaper than 750 ? ok..
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FalconPunch
Member
This is just an RTX 5080 with more ram? It's the same chip as the default rtx 5080 so there's nothing "super" about it. It didn't offer a notable upgrade over the 4080 super so I don't see why any 4080 super owners would bother.
amigastar
Member
In an ideal world maybe the 5070 Ti would be around 500$, i'm just happy i got my RTX 4070 for about 625$ some time ago.
Connificent
Al Pachinko, Konami President
I can't see how they can clock it higher as the 5080 isn't power limited and it won't have extra cores. It's just a 5080 with more memory and clock speeds the original one should have had out of the box. I'll be interested how Nvidia price this.
YeulEmeralda
Linux User
Hypothetically this would make base 5080 go down in price right?
asdasdasdbb
Member
Ah, that's the rub. NV didn't officially cut the price on the 4080 when the Super came out... so retailers had to choose between eating losses on the 4080 inventory or raising the price on the 4080 Super to higher than what they had the 4080. They mainly chose the later.
Puscifer
Member
Go in person. Two of local My Best Buys have them but they're all "sold out" online.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Not sure about BestBuy but Microcenter had bunch of Nvidia stock last couple of weeks.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
MarV0
Member
No my friend you need a reality check. $400 after 5 years of inflation is $495.
https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/
Add to that the fact that the 5070 TI is specced more like a 5060 and there is no doubt of completely unreasonable price gouging.
Now get that corporation dick out of your mouth.
I will continue to enjoy my hobby without bending over to greedy fucks like Nvidia.
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TheRaidenPT
Member
My XTX better last until UDNA, I ain't playing this money cash grab.
Tired of G-SYNC issues on my OLED displays… Yet with FreeSync Premium I gave 0 issues, go figure
Tired of G-SYNC issues on my OLED displays… Yet with FreeSync Premium I gave 0 issues, go figure
//DEVIL//
Member
first of all I am not your friend. I dont want to be either. you are mentally ill by the way you type and I would like to avoid you at all costs because I have no plans to lose IQ points reading your stupid replies beyond this post towards you.
it seems like Nvidia fucked you in the ass without a cream and you are butt hurt about it. as if sony, Nintendo, and even AMD isnt doing the exact same thing.
only stupid people think 5070ti is specced like a 5060. moron wants 200 performance boost on the same node every 2 years.
go cry beside Steve from hardware unbox about the performance of a video card you are not going to buy anyway. but like to talk shit because you cant afford a gpu. we done.
LavitzSlambert
Member
//DEVIL//
Member
His opinion is not a reality. He can say it's 1080ti level for all I care. If someone doesn't want it sure don't buy it . It's your money. But don't attack people that do and ask them to take nvidias cock out of their mouth. That shit talk is stupid
Hyet
Member
First: what 5080s?
Second: lmao no
PeteBull
Member
To even support u more, 5070ti even tho its 750$ msrp, is way higher than that, even in the US cheapest model is 825$
In other parts of the world its much worse despite no trump tarrifs.
For example cheapest 5070ti in germany is 863€ aka 977 usd, oh, and notice red note- only 1 left:
Schmendrick
Banned
until the next slew of consoles ups the VRAM standards again the difference between the 5080S and the 5080 will be nearly nonexistent. They´ll probably up the standard frequencies, but that`s something every 5080 owner can already do, too. The 24GB are more future proofing than anything else. 24GB should have been the standard in this class of GPU from the get go, but it will not really make a difference for the time being.
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