The Faceless Master
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Samsung Galaxy S4 (new flagship Android phone from Samsung)
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In my very subjective opinion, yes.
The Faceless Master
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SHOTS
FUCKING
FIRED!!!
https://twitter.com/ChainfireXDA/status/312354634863898624
guys, i'm starting to suspect that all LTE enabled models will be Qualcomm'd!
so yeah remember how we had all sorts of LTE enabled single and dual core phones and then we got to quad core and *BAM* we got Qualcomm'd because of LTE? the story goes like this...
the Galaxy S3 came with a Snapdragon S4 because that SoC had its own built-in baseband that supports LTE and DC-HSPA+ 42 and none of the standalone LTE basebands at the time were efficient enough to work with the quad core Exynos (or Tegra 3, hence the One X/EVO LTE also using the S4) because of the size and power drain.
later that same year, the Qualcomm MDM8x15 baseband was released. it was 28nm and supported those requirements, hence the Galaxy Note II, AT&T One X+ and other devices, including the S4 Pro devices (unlike S4, S4 Pro doesn't have an onboard LTE baseband) all using 8x15 variants in the US.
the Snapdragon 600 doesn't have a built-in LTE baseband, and neither does the Exynos Octa so they would both need a separate (presumably 8x15 based) baseband for cellular connectivity. now, we already know that the Snapdragon 600 works fine with the 8x15 baseband as it's in the One and the G Pro...
So, first someone at Samsung NL says they'll have the SD600, now Chainfire, who's trying to root a GS4 remotely mentions it will be in some areas of Europe too...
the only way it makes sense for the Exynos Octa to not be everywhere in every GS4 is... Exynos Octa is too big of a big power drain and can't work in a phone, even with the 8x15... so maybe that's what happened? Octa too hot for LTE phones?
FUCKING
FIRED!!!
https://twitter.com/ChainfireXDA/status/312354634863898624
guys, i'm starting to suspect that all LTE enabled models will be Qualcomm'd!
so yeah remember how we had all sorts of LTE enabled single and dual core phones and then we got to quad core and *BAM* we got Qualcomm'd because of LTE? the story goes like this...
the Galaxy S3 came with a Snapdragon S4 because that SoC had its own built-in baseband that supports LTE and DC-HSPA+ 42 and none of the standalone LTE basebands at the time were efficient enough to work with the quad core Exynos (or Tegra 3, hence the One X/EVO LTE also using the S4) because of the size and power drain.
later that same year, the Qualcomm MDM8x15 baseband was released. it was 28nm and supported those requirements, hence the Galaxy Note II, AT&T One X+ and other devices, including the S4 Pro devices (unlike S4, S4 Pro doesn't have an onboard LTE baseband) all using 8x15 variants in the US.
the Snapdragon 600 doesn't have a built-in LTE baseband, and neither does the Exynos Octa so they would both need a separate (presumably 8x15 based) baseband for cellular connectivity. now, we already know that the Snapdragon 600 works fine with the 8x15 baseband as it's in the One and the G Pro...
So, first someone at Samsung NL says they'll have the SD600, now Chainfire, who's trying to root a GS4 remotely mentions it will be in some areas of Europe too...
the only way it makes sense for the Exynos Octa to not be everywhere in every GS4 is... Exynos Octa is too big of a big power drain and can't work in a phone, even with the 8x15... so maybe that's what happened? Octa too hot for LTE phones?
-Pyromaniac-
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it's pretty damn good. And this is a higher clocked one.
The Faceless Master
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the GPU is lacking, but otherwise it's pretty good. standard Qualcomm...
shinobi602
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*sigh*
Looks like I'll go with the HTC One. Was really hoping that Samsung would put in some changes to the design. The One is so damn sexy and the camera seems excellent.
Looks like I'll go with the HTC One. Was really hoping that Samsung would put in some changes to the design. The One is so damn sexy and the camera seems excellent.
Yea I just had my hands on one today. Really nice phone.
But I really don't see what's so wrong with this phone. I was in the S3 is ugly camp too but I took another look at it and it's pretty much fine.
Fistbump!
shinobi602
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Nothing 'wrong' with it, it just, sort of bores me I guess.
Samsung has found their 'look' with the Galaxy phones, no need to radically change them. HTC on the other hand is scrambling to find any type of recognition.
shinobi602
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Right, I get that and can fully understand it. It just disappoints me. Since my first cellphone like 10 years ago I've had Samsung phones. Flip phones, then the shitty resistive touch Instinct, and now I have an original Galaxy S.
My wife got the S3, and I think it looks great, but having seen it for almost a year, the design bores me now. I was hoping Samsung would go with a unibody metal design this time around, especially considering all the cash they're swimming in that they could afford it.
Unfortunately I was mistaken, and I've read about 5 different reviews of the HTC One and love what I'm seeing and reading. I couldn't care less about any recognition it has, I think it's a better phone overall for my tastes.
Nothing wrong with that. Its all personal preference.
brain_stew
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Not a quad A15.
Canis lupus
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As a Z owner, the only thing that makes me jealous is the amoled screen and bigger battery, I don't care much about specs as in real life use the difference will be negligible.
FantasticMrFoxdie
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Really impressed. Might be boarding this flagship. Awaiting your move, Apple.
DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
This is the same feeling I have. Since I already have a GS3 I don't feel like I 'need' or 'want' a spec bump GS3. I guess I know how apple owners feel with all of there S's now.
SirMossyBloke
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That's exactly what it is tbh. I have the 4S and even the jump to the 5 isn't worth it. Especially with the ridiculous screen dimensions. In fact that awful screen dimension is one major reason i'm switching to android. Apple just don't "get it" anymore.
DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
It would devolve into fanboy wars of gaming side proportion.
Without making it too complicated: LTE issues
For the CPU, no idea. GPU, definitely not.
DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
Is Motorola no longer a big boy? I would consider them to be the biggest of the boys, especially now that they have Goog backing them.
There is no way they are bigger than apple and samsung. Google isn't bigger than apple (and I assume Samsung).
In the same boat. Provided it comes out before the next apple im probably jumping ship. Can't wait until September.
The Faceless Master
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probably because Exynos Octa draws too much power!
BoboBrazil
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Guess not really much of a reason to jump from a S3. The new touchwiz and features will probably be hacked to run on the GS3 by devs on xda.
As far as screen size goes, I would rather have better speakers than a larger screen. I think with HTC going for larger carrier support we should start to see software updates quicker.
turnbuckle
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Disappointing. Helps me avoid the temptation of upgrading from my S3 at least.
Phat Michael
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I predict 4.3" screen. 2gb ram. thats pretty much it. people will hail it as the greatest thing to happen to the iphone since the iphone.
Apples next phone is probably 6 months away if not more. September or October.
Samsung already said they are bringing the S4 software features to the S3 and Galaxy Notes through an update after the S4 launches.
No need to bother with patchy hacks.
-Pyromaniac-
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motorola am cry
and you all know what apple has. iphone 5s. Better cpu/gpu/camera/whatever. Same phone. Same schedule as always. The only mystery left is motorola and those stupid x phone rumours.
SirMossyBloke
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Aaaaand that's why I'm moving to android. Apple need to shape up.
How does the international S3 LTE with Exynos 4 Quad and 2GB ram fit in to your theory?
Starsunder
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So how big of an increase is the Snapdragon 600 in terms of power/performance compared to the dual core s4 in the GS3?
-Pyromaniac-
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it's not like every other popular manufacturer isn't doing the same, and by that I mean the only other one. It's the tick tock schedule. If HTC became popular I guarantee they'd do the same thing just like samsung is basically doing. Apple is currently on their tick, so we know what to expect from the 5S.
Besides, their phones aren't the issue most people have right now, it's the software.
it's an not just an s600, it's an s600 at a higher clock. It should be quite a bit faster. In real world terms? Who knows.
Unknown Soldier
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Apple releases the new iPhone in late summer. So you have some waiting ahead of you, if you are going to wait for the iP6.
Indeed, and around late September early October when the 5S is shown you will be about 6 months from the release of the HTC Two, Xperia Z2 and the Galaxy S5, the same way we are now 6 months from the 5S.
Its pretty much on a 6 month cycle for flagships, so just pick a moment and jump in. Something else will always be around the corner.
Unknown Soldier
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Not to mention that the Galaxy S and Note are now on alternating 6 months cadence, so the Note III will be around when the iP6 (5S?) is too.
SirMossyBloke
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That's my main reason (that and the stupid dimensions of the screen). The software and layout and look and overall spirit of the phone , is simply, boring.
Having a new iPhone nowadays means only two things. Showing people you have the latest one and having about 3 things that the previous phone didn't have.
Look at the difference between the 4s and the 5. There's basically nothing the 5 can do that the 4s can't. Where's the change?
still can't believe the iphone doesn't have an FM radio
The Faceless Master
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is that Exynos Octa?
probably around 50-60%, S4 Pro is around 30% better performance than S4 Plus and SD 600 @ 1.9GHz is supposed to be 30% better than that.
Yup. That was more or less the only thing holding me back from getting an iphone 5. The OS is so boring.
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