Triforce141
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The latter, game started as a prototype for the DSi, was shelved for a while, then Tanabe saw the New 3DS' power and decided to start development of the game again with NLG.
Samus cameo in Federation Force revealed
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The latter, game started as a prototype for the DSi, was shelved for a while, then Tanabe saw the New 3DS' power and decided to start development of the game again with NLG.
Diddy Kong
Banned
see guys! we put metroid in the game!
lol I laughed...then cried.
That's exactly what it is
Zomba13
Member
She probably flies off to AM2R.
The12thGripper
Member
holy shit
i'm still gonna get the game because I believe in Next Level but god damn
i'm still gonna get the game because I believe in Next Level but god damn
Vital Tundra
Member
At least by not really being in the game she isn't really associated in the game soooo... Yay?
While I'd prefer an actual full-budget Metroid game with Samus back in prime shape (never gets old...), this has been really depressing.
Not the game, but the fanbase. We get it. I get it. But I'm so entirely tired of hearing the same snide remarks over and over and over because a low-budget spin-off game isn't the next Super Metroid or Prime.
I'm going to wait to hear what Nintendo says about the NX, but it'd be like hearing non-stop, incessant, unyielding complaints about Prime Pinball or Hunters before most people even played them because they're not "proper" Metroid experiences.
Yes, I want a great new Metroid, but I'm not looking at Federation Force as "Samus's game", because it's not, not anymore than Luigi's Mansion is the next great Mario-led platformer or Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat as the next great Donkey Kong experience or Tingle's Freshly Picked Rosy Rupeeland as the final puzzle piece to the Zelda timeline enigma.
... That said, I do want a proper Metroid, but I really, really don't see how Federation Force is so offensive it drives Metroid fans (of which I'm a really passionate one) up the wall into a frothing frenzy of bloodshot rage and nauseated disgust.
It just doesn't look like a game, even at its worst, worth all the bile and vitriol. It just seems so banal and inoffensive to me for what it is.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
The game is called Metroid Prime: Federation Force, not Samus Aran: Federation Force, what were you guys expecting?
ShadowSoldier89
Member
because unlike previous spinoffs, the mainline game is nowhere to be seen. This will happen any time a developer pulls something like this. Spinoffs are always a fun curiosity unless the main series is being ignored. See Valkyria Azure Revolution for the exact same reactions
Kingpin Rogers
Member
So who is actually buying this game?
Four basic reasons:
1) Instead of making this, they could have made something good. We could have had a good metroid game rather than a terrible one. Nintendo has finite resources. They used a great team (NLG) for years... to make this.
2) This isn't a spinoff in the classic sense of say, a Metroid Prime Pinball or a Mario Tennis. The gameplay here is the exact same style as Prime - it's clear that this could have been an actual Metroid game if they had wanted it to be.
3) Every bad game (including spinoffs) in a series affects a franchise. It affects the way you think about it, the way you interface with it. Bad games sell poorly and hurt the chances of games in that series. They hurt the prestige and mindshare attached to a franchise.
4) We haven't had a good Metroid game in a decade, and this game indicates that Nintendo doesn't listen to Metroid fans, has no idea what they want or perhaps doesn't care what they want. All of those things are painful.
There, there's four reasons why this game gets people so upset (beyond the mere fact that it looks bad.)
Blam
Member
Yeah I want a game I can play with friends. And it's a shooter so I'm all for it.
Nintendo why? Your 30th anniversary for one of the biggest game characters ever and you do the equivalent of Capcom releasing Umbrella Corps...
So they released a multiplayer focused spin-off that, while obviously lacking in budget, is a fun and fairly unique take on its genre? Seems legit.
Such reactions are not even justified by that. People need to get over themselves. I want a new mainline metriod game as well and this game isn't that. It even doesn't interest me on a fundamental level metroid name aside. However I'm not out here behaving like vengeful ex girlfriends over a fucking video game. That shit isn't cute. If you don't want to play the game don't play it and keep it moving. There's no need to constantly fill threads about the game with vapid salty fanboy ramblings.
SatoAilDarko
Member
It's a cameo, chill.
Though I'm am interested in why they changed the design of her ship?
I'll still buy and enjoy it.
Though I'm am interested in why they changed the design of her ship?
I'll still buy and enjoy it.
JetSetRadio
Banned
Cold bastards lol.
I don't give a crap. I'm impatient for the next mainstream Metroid too, but I also don't think that's fair to judge a game based on what it's not over what it is. It's not a mainline game; it's a spin-off.
Again, if the NX gets its blow-out reveal and there's no Metroid in sight, I will be right there with everyone else complaining, but Nintendo isn't talking about ANY major installments for anything outside of Breath of the Wild.
It just strikes me as illogical to rant and rave over the game not being a proper Metroid when, if an admittedly acceptable game like Hunters or Pinball came out instead at this time, they'd get shredded as well EVEN THOUGH MOST FANS LIKE THEM (or at least accept them).
It's like raving and ranting about a Final Fantasy spin-off when we've sat on our butts for 10 years waiting for the next great single-player Final Fantasy. Well, screw that. Theatrythm is pretty fun, even if it's nowhere near the Final Fantasy experience I've clamored for for the past decade.
I know. Or Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts (also an okay game that got SHREDDED by irate Banjo fans wanting Banjo 3).
That doesn't make it right, though. It's just... well, at some point, don't we all "get it"? It's not the game fans initially asked for, but we've had so long to make our peace with that. It's like, the only thing that could possibly salvage this game in some people's eyes is if the project was just outright cancelled, even if there were people out there who might enjoy something a little unexpected and different, or if it was reworked into something predictable and demanded... when some of the best Nintendo surprises, for me, was when Nintendo took gambles that didn't always pay off. Like Tri-Force Heroes has serious problems... but when my wife and best friend got a session together, it was one of the most enjoyable Zelda experiences of my entire life, even if you needed the stars to align for that to happen and most people would miss out on that same level of enjoyment (see also: Four Swords).
It's like... I understand it, but I just don't see the need to get SO worked up, especially with so many big-budget, unknown projects for the NX that'll be unveiled soon, with Metroid possibly being one of them (especially with how openly Nintendo has actually talked about Prime 4...)
I bought Other M. To date, the only game I truly regret buying.
... My bar is super-low, so I'm sure I'll have fun with it. Count me in.
People are entitled to say and write whatever they feel like about whatever game. If 90% of the people react to a video game in an angry fashion, the people who have fucked up are the devs and publisher, not the fans. And the fans are correct to let them know that this isn't what they want... or they'll never actually get what they want.
The angriest person in this thread appears to be you, despite it 'not even interesting you'. If you find the majority opinion about a game so offensive it might be best to refrain from that game's threads. I can tell you that the atmosphere surrounding this game isn't going to change...
Isn't it identical to the one from Prime 3?
James Scott
Banned
Is that the only Samus cameo or are we just assuming? She (or at least her character model) shows up during a briefing in the blast ball demo.
Anyways, it's not a game about her despite being name dropped.
I will admit that not having a new Metroid game announced before or after this was a mistake, but fans being so against anything to do with the franchise is probably not helping.
I remember seeing people get pissed off that they didn't balance the game for single player despite that not being true (your strength is doubled)
And a cameo where she's shown treats her better than the last game she was in as well as this game being a return of the Prime series which was retconned by Other M.
Anyways, it's not a game about her despite being name dropped.
I will admit that not having a new Metroid game announced before or after this was a mistake, but fans being so against anything to do with the franchise is probably not helping.
I remember seeing people get pissed off that they didn't balance the game for single player despite that not being true (your strength is doubled)
And a cameo where she's shown treats her better than the last game she was in as well as this game being a return of the Prime series which was retconned by Other M.
Coffee Dog
Banned
Donkey kong fans weren't losing their shit when they were in spinoff hell between DKC's
Nobody lost their shit over Donkey Konga
This is a phenomenon restricted to metroid fans for some reason
Omegasquash
Member
Between this, AM2R, letting buggy games like Terraria be released, N3DS exclusivity for SNES VC, and pulling down the Nintendo Power archive, I think I'm seeing Nintendo in a less-than-rosy tint than I did before.
I'm not sitting here saying I'll never buy another thing from Nintendo again, but their unwillingness to listen makes their competitors look that much more attractive. Knowing what I know RIGHT NOW, I'd buy an XBox One over an NX. Unless the NX really impresses me, I think my decision is going to stay that way.
I'm not sitting here saying I'll never buy another thing from Nintendo again, but their unwillingness to listen makes their competitors look that much more attractive. Knowing what I know RIGHT NOW, I'd buy an XBox One over an NX. Unless the NX really impresses me, I think my decision is going to stay that way.
Vital Tundra
Member
It is.
That's because Mario, Donkey Kong, and Zelda are still alive and well.
We haven't gotten a single new Metroid game since Other M six years ago, and arguably a single new good Metroid game since Prime 3 nine years ago. The first new Metroid game in YEARS is a co-op shooter with a horrendously awful art style, with absolutely no evidence of any other "true" Metroid game in development. So yes, Metroid fans are pissed.
Poot Poot Splash
Member
Nintendo really outdid themselves. We should all be greatful they even included her.
DangerStepp
Member
Oh yeah, this game.
This just does not look that great.
This just does not look that great.
This might be the first time the gunship has stayed the same within the Prime games, though I wonder if it was easier to reuse the Prime 3 model than make a whole new one
Maybe I'm different but if I don't give a shit a particular game I don't read or post in threads for it and I definitely don't incessantly bitch about how it could of been something I would actually enjoy. Just because you can do something doesn't mean it's a good idea. But hey if you guys are allowed to bitch about the game I'm allowed to say you are being ridiculous.
It's just her spaceship, that's it
When you finish the game you get this addendum:
** And thus, Samus died in a sea of aliasing **
I'm more excited about this than I would be about an actual metroid game.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
I gave an explanation, not a justification. The only justification is hoping that Nintendo might listen to these reactions and create a proper metroid. Complaints and grievances in the video game industry has produced results, so being silent is not the answer, the tone and approach is the question
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
If you didn't tell me that was Samus I would have never known.
Happy 30th!
Happy 30th!
It's the design from Metroid Prime 3.
First off, have you played it? I haven't. And even if you have or will and you end up not enjoying it, someone else might have a blast with it (no pun intended). I remember some Metroid fans raging that Hunters wasn't a "proper" Metroid either once, yet there was a very passionate community of Hunters players that adored the multiplayer (myself among them). This could very well scratch an itch certain players need scratched, even if you don't share that itch.
Not really. From the demo, it has a moderately similar control scheme to Prime (and hence is a "Prime" game in that regard), but it's got enough differences to warrant it as a spin-off in the same way that Halo: ODST is similar in gameplay yet still clearly a spin-off with a lower budget and limited scale. A spin-off can still share gameplay features, after all.
Then the fanbase can get over themselves. EVERY franchise has bad installments. Final Fantasy has All The Bravest, Mortal Kombat has Special Forces, Tekken has Death by Degrees, Devil May Cry has DMC2, Soul Calibur has SC: Legends, Mass Effect has Infiltration, etc.
And we're in a post-Other M Metroid universe. Really, that ship sailed a long, long time ago. I say that as someone who hates Other M more than any other game on the planet. We survived Other M; we can survive a middling portable spin-off title.
NX. Patience. Wait.... Nintendo isn't talking about ANY of their major plans for ANY major series outside of Zelda right now. Metroid isn't some special little snowflake in this regard.
And portable systems have always been the home of experimentation and wacky ideas that don't always work, whether it's 3-player Zelda or multiplayer death arena or pinball Metroid or rumble cart Pokemon or Mario painting simulators....
Then that's a complaint with the wait between proper installments, not the prospective quality or lack-thereof of a spin-off title. Federation Force's existence has no bearings one way or the other on the wait. Complain to Nintendo about that, but that's not Federation Force's fault.
And, again, you all make me feel OLD. There was a time where I got 3 Metroid games in 16 years, and that was then followed by an EIGHT YEAR BREAK.
And after that eight year break? ... we got possibly the best Metroid ever. If a Federation Force had dropped between then, I wouldn't have minded then either.
March of the Crabs
Member
Am I weird for still thinking this looks fun? I'm keeping my pre order.