Samus cameo in Federation Force revealed
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Bear Force One
Banned
Just abandon the IP to someone who cares, Nintendo.
You're warm crap.
You're warm crap.
I think the reaction to Federation Force would've been identical to Triforce Heroes (negative, but not that large) if there hadn't been OOT3D, MM3D, Skyward Sword, A Link Between Worlds, Wind Waker HD, Twilight Princess HD, and not even the slightest hint that maybe Zelda U is a game that might actually exist.
There'd be more "meh, whatever" rather than harsh reactions if the franchise was healthier.
There'd be more "meh, whatever" rather than harsh reactions if the franchise was healthier.
Was Triforce Heroes that successful, financially?
I say it as a Metroid fan, one who is working on a career in games based entirely on my enjoyment of the Metroid games, and one that isn't happy with the way Nintendo has handled Metroid overall and who harbors serious animosity towards Other M...
... But even I think it gets to a point where it's a tad ridiculous. It can't just be an "average" or even "disappointing" game. It has to be a flaming garbage fire that openly throttles kittens, personally insults your mother, is deliberately doing everything intentionally to sabotage the franchise for everyone just to spite you, is directly responsible for the Brexit, cancelled Firefly, put Snyder in charge of the DC movies, and probably would vote for Donald Trump if it could.
It gets to a point where the complaints aren't just nitpicky, they're wildly overblown. It can't just be underwhelming or not what you like or even something you dislike (and almost nobody has actually PLAYED the full game yet). It has to look, sound, feel, and even smell bad. The box art has to be the worst ever. The cameo has to be an intentional insult. The multiplayer has to be an affront to everything Metroid stands for. The controls have to be the worst controls ever. The game has to not just be bad, not just even OTHER M bad; it has to be a game so horrendously terrible and so blitheringly incompetent and insulting that it its sheer existence is a black hole that sucks the franchise - past, present, and future - into its awful, loathsome pit of despair and misery and affront to good taste.
... Eh, I enjoyed the demo, warts and all, and I'm happy to experience something new from the Metroid universe, even if it's not the dream game I want and still ask for. I feel like giving it a fair shot, and even being okay with the game if it fails to measure up, isn't some unreasonable approach to the series (or any game, for that matter).
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Why would anyone want the Metroid license when they can make their own original title and keep all the profits for themselves?
It might have been, thanks to the groundwork being laid by A Link Between Worlds.
I don't think the game needed to sell all that much.
Well, it'd be like making a fan game you could actually sell and not get C&D'd for. Maybe those extra sales gained by using an established IP would be worth the share given to Nintendo.
Acerac
Banned
A 2D Metroid game. One that wasn't terrible, preferably.
We're at the point where nearly everything about FF is going to piss people off. I hate to say it, but I, along with many others, seem to have lost the ability to be objective about this title since it is such incredible salt in the wound that is the demise of Samus.
Is it reasonable to expect a 2D Metroid? The last 2D Metroid came out 12 YEARS AGO. While it would be nice, it's hardly anything I would "expect". The last one, Zero Mission didn't exactly light up the sales charts either.
I do, ultimately, think a lot of burnt Metroid fans (myself typically included) have progressively lost the ability to be objective about Federation Force and even the series in general.
I know this is supposed to be the GF's game, but the cameo's still underwhelming. I mean, in-game, this just kinda happens. Plus this is all Metroid's getting for its 30th; AM2R isn't official, and Nintendo wants to eliminate it, so it definitely doesn't count as being anything positive on Nintendo's end.
There may be some hyperbole stated in this thread, but not by much: this game is aesthetically bankrupt, and Nintendo has no idea on how to handle the IP. The fact that this'll probably shelve the franchise again after Other M did the same thing 6 years ago is a genuine tragedy.
There may be some hyperbole stated in this thread, but not by much: this game is aesthetically bankrupt, and Nintendo has no idea on how to handle the IP. The fact that this'll probably shelve the franchise again after Other M did the same thing 6 years ago is a genuine tragedy.
Need to take a look first. Be back in a sec.
Edit: Shit art direction, shit music and creatively bankrupt. I'll just pretend it doesn't exist.
shark sandwich
tenuously links anime, pedophile and incels
Every mission should end with you walking away, confidently assuming the enemy is dead, only for it to get up again while you aren't looking. Then Samus' ship comes out of fucking nowhere and finishes it off for you.
AtomicShroom
Member
Everything about this screams Kidz Halo(TM).
Everything about it is so soft and cute. Even the blaster sound effect feels like it belongs to a kid's toy more than an actual energy blaster.
Everything about it is so soft and cute. Even the blaster sound effect feels like it belongs to a kid's toy more than an actual energy blaster.
It was a poor showing but not to the degree that it was downvoted.
Riposte
Member
People being depressed about videogames is depressing.
This shit is rapidly becoming worse than the Megaman bullshit. Learn to take shit in stride.
Green Mamba
Member
Nintendo's poor Youtube videos.
What does that even mean?
WrenchNinja
Member
I just don't understand why this game looks as ugly as it does. I mean there are some nice looking 3DS games out there, what is this thing.
Green Mamba
Member
I'm saying they're just downvotes. Of all the things to get carried away with that seems pretty tame.
chillybright
Banned
They want to taste the tears.
While I get that, Metroid's always had a very large, expanded universe of political factions, warring planets, and ancient civilizations.
Hunters introduced a slew of competing bounty hunters, Fusion vastly altered the landscape of the Federation, and the Chozo have been further developed with nearly every game, long before Prime 3 came along.
I honestly don't see a problem with it. It's a fascinating universe, and Samus's role in that universe is fascinating to watch. No culture views her the same way, and seeing her from an outsider's perspective is enjoyable as well.
Spring-Loaded
Member
There needs to be a ToS for how individuals are allowed to feel about this game since every time it comes up, there are people complaining about fan reactions.
e.g. "You're allowed to say 'the game isn't the best looking Nintendo title..." but saying 'this game looks ugly," is too far."
e.g. "You're allowed to say 'the game isn't the best looking Nintendo title..." but saying 'this game looks ugly," is too far."
Nope, you can play it on any 3DS.
To me it's only interesting as a sidestory wrapped around Samus. If there was a war I want to play as Samus coming in after and piecing what happened together. Not a grunt on the ground during the battle. Even in the hypothetical best case scenario with Metroid Prime 4 coming out last year and winning all the GotY trophies, I think this game would be seen as meh at best.
My entire issue with this game is how the troopers are just Samus-lite instead of unique characters with their own abilities.
I want a drastically different perspective on the setting but what I'm getting instead is a watered down version of something I already played.
Even Hunters had new characters with their own transformations and signature weapons.
Mr. Pointy
Member
The cameo is whatever.
I don't understand how the graphics ended up looking so bad on a late generation 3DS game. Next Level Games are quite capable of producing nice looking graphics on the 3DS, as we've seen with Luigi's Mansion.
The chibi art style was such an unbelievably huge mistake. And the colors they chose all clash and look awful. If you need to differentiate each player to make them visually distinct there are far better ways to do it than just using 4 primary colors.
Tanabe's excuse about the chibi style being a direct result of not wanting sharp edges in a shooter on a small screen or something doesn't even make sense.
There's no reason the pilots of the mechs have to look like that. Use regular human proportions for the pilots, who are never present in gameplay outside of their mechs, then round off the corners of the design for the mechs. Aliens can look however you want.
But graphics aside, the game really should have supported download play for the main game (it has download play for the soccer minigame) if they really wanted anyone to take a chance on this. I'd get it for local multiplayer if it had download play, but as is there's no way in hell me and my friends would buy 4 copies of the game.
The chibi art style was such an unbelievably huge mistake. And the colors they chose all clash and look awful. If you need to differentiate each player to make them visually distinct there are far better ways to do it than just using 4 primary colors.
Tanabe's excuse about the chibi style being a direct result of not wanting sharp edges in a shooter on a small screen or something doesn't even make sense.
There's no reason the pilots of the mechs have to look like that. Use regular human proportions for the pilots, who are never present in gameplay outside of their mechs, then round off the corners of the design for the mechs. Aliens can look however you want.
But graphics aside, the game really should have supported download play for the main game (it has download play for the soccer minigame) if they really wanted anyone to take a chance on this. I'd get it for local multiplayer if it had download play, but as is there's no way in hell me and my friends would buy 4 copies of the game.
Riposte
Member
It's simply indefensible, isn't it? A human rights violation, really.
I don't like how people try to obscure fanboy tantrums for what they are. First, there's the bewildering idea that the plain resentment over a (mere) cameo in a spin-off game ("salt in wounds") is actually criticism of any substance (and not simply a bitter continuation of emotional noise based on the delusion that Nintendo is trying to hurt you). Then there's the attempt to make this whole scenario appear reasonable: it's downright criminal that one of the countless videogame brand-names of the world happens to be dormant and now Nintendo is being insensitive to the victims of this situation by choosing to release a multiplayer spin-off X number of years since their last *insult* to the brand-name. And if you try to point out this complete lack of perspective (and ability to move on) you are merely the other side of the coin who are really Nintendo sycophants that can't take criticism. What's the solution? Maybe Nintendo is being irresponsible by not putting Trigger Warnings before their Federation Force videos.
brandonh83
Banned
It's a spinoff. Its mere existence likely doesn't have any impact on the existence of a Metroid proper. There would simply be nothing and it could be that a new one is in development on NX.
Or not. Either way, the drama surrounding this is stupid.