stufte
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I'm not going to derail this thread by getting into a protracted discussion about her videos. I was active in the threads about her videos if you want to go back and look what I wrote.
Sarkeesian cancels speech after mass-shooting threat due to cop refusing to ban gun
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I'm not going to derail this thread by getting into a protracted discussion about her videos. I was active in the threads about her videos if you want to go back and look what I wrote.
She said one of the threats explicitly identified with #gamergate.
Kite
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I've gotten several threats over tumblr for being a cis male but somehow I manage not to blame the entire female and trans population for a tiny handful of crazies and probable trolls.
This I agree with entirely.
The Technomancer
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The funny thing about GamerGate is that association with it is completely voluntary
I'm genuinely confused by the whole thing.
Moral Panic
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Personally I'm not really a fan of the small snippet internet video criticism as it tends to hit at low hanging fruit and doesn't really get into the deep issues the way a long form article can. I watched the first Tropes vs VG and then I moved on because it wasn't for me.
Random Painted HIghway
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I'm curious as to whether a private venue in the town was considered after this issue was conveyed to the parties. Obviously that would require non university sponsorship and thus an expense to someone, perhaps prohibitive. I personally think it sends a better message to this asshole to shift the venue rather than just folding.
We should all listen to constitutional historian "Aaron".
He knows what the Second Amendment really means!
The Technomancer
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Which is a fine criticism. I actually agree with it, to the extent that you're right there's not a lot of depth there. But then, Tropes vs Women was never really meant to be in depth analysis from the start. Its just an introduction, a primer, an attempt to get the conversation going (which according to some developers it has)
Yes. Like her or not it is very important that she is allowed to speak.
Yeah and it's scary. Death threats to public speakers are a real threat to freedom of speech.
Maybe it's so easy to get attacks on GamerGate mixed up with attacks on "the entire male population" because, at its core, GamerGate is really about men vs. women instead of whatever bullshit "journnalism ethics" nonsense is the pretense.
You need to learn what censorship means.
The term #gamergate was coined by Adam Baldwin who has used the controversies to state some pretty shitty things. I haven't seen much from the "movement" to think they've moved very far from that poor birthing.
Also, Adam Baldwin is a twat.
It's ironic in that same way that rain on your wedding day is ironic? Because no one's freedom of speech is being violated.
In that regard, the series has succeeded. I don't really enjoy her videos at all, but they've definitely started a conversation about the roles of women in video games, which is a good thing, regardless of the quality of her content.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Expressing dislike for something is not censorship
Forcing someone to cancel a speech with threats of murder is
This fuckin' guy.
Anyone who thinks this isn't what Gamergate is about is deluded or a liar. This started with people harassing a woman over what should have been a private, domestic matter. The talk about "ethics" is tacked on precisely to lure more moderately-minded people like you (I assume) so that they can use you to legitimize their misogynist campaign. If you haven't realized that yet, I feel bad for you. You're in with this whether you like it or not.
I wasn't asking for a long detailed explanation. I'm not that familiar with her work so I'm curious.
People have different opinions regarding Sarkeesian and her message. I also believe that she has made some mistakes and misrepresented games, taken situations out of context so that they better serve the narrative.
But I just don't understand why people are wasting their time with this #GG nonsense.
entremet
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Is that the actor Adam Baldwin?
Yeah.
Why do people associate gamergate with this bullshit? Should probably mention that #StopGamerGate2014 is trending right now. For whatever that means.
Yeah. Twat.
Yeah. Twat.
For some values of "actor", yes.
This is the perfect description of gamergate, except with a lot more misogyny from the guy on the left.
Is it possible that this was a publicity stunt by her knowing this would happen? I ask because there are only 3 states in the entire country that allow people to carry firearms on a college campus. Utah, Colorado, and Idaho are the only ones. I don't know her so maybe she lives in Utah.
Is it possible she was trying to bring more attention to her cause by canceling her speaking engagement? There would have been officers in place during the speech as a standard practice anyway. Probably additional officers since there was a threat made.
I'm just throwing it out there because I don't know anything about her or her cause other than what's been posted in this thread.
Is it possible she was trying to bring more attention to her cause by canceling her speaking engagement? There would have been officers in place during the speech as a standard practice anyway. Probably additional officers since there was a threat made.
I'm just throwing it out there because I don't know anything about her or her cause other than what's been posted in this thread.
People seriously need to clue in on the fact that Gamergate is rooted in misogyny. It began with sexist intents and no matter how much people want to change the meaning, they can't and won't. It's a tainted name full of a toxic group of people.
That comic is so accurate.
Why do people associate gamergate with this bullshit? Should probably mention that #StopGamerGate2014 is trending right now. For whatever that means.
Yeah. Twat.
That comic is so accurate.
Arthr2ShdsJcksn
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Wisconsin has right to carry as of 2011, but they certainly weren't letting people with weapons of any type into the campaign rally.
Anything is possible. But it's not likely. Use your head and think about what's more likely. Don't fall for conspiracy theory bullshit, that's exactly what many members of #GamersGate are advocating.
Amazing.
You don't know anything about her or her cause but hey let's throw some shade in her direction and speculate as to her ulteriror motives with absolutely no cause to think that way?
"Is it possible she did it to herself for attention?" is the leading retort to any of this garbage by people within the gamergate movement. It's completely despicable and shows a gross inability to take what women say as genuine.
entremet
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Wow! Didn't know he was behind all this stuff lol. I just thought it was some random internet dude with the same name. GG is just too much to keep up with.
Sounds like a conspiracy theorist alright.
Just asking questions, man! Not actually saying it!
"Knowing this would happen"? Are we on the victim blaming track again?
Publicity is irrelevant to the issue at hand. The death threats are entirely unacceptable regardless of her intentions.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Anton Sugar
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"Look, I don't know anything about her, but isn't it possible that she's a lying and manipulative attention-whore?"
I did what? I think you have me confused with somebody else. I've never heard of her before until this thread.
Sure, she may have chosen imperfect or misleading examples, but anyone who regularly plays games would find it pretty hard to ignore that her message is spot on. I mean I play a lot of games and they tend to be pretty sexist. Slowly getting better in some cases though.
FO-totality
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While silencing anyone's voice abhorrent and I find her viewpoint an important perspective that should be considered, but I don't find her personally to be a very good voice. She could be replaced with someone who could say the thing's she says or wants to say a lot better, at least in my view.
EdibleKnife
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I wouldn't have been able to pick out the colleges that allow firearms from a pool of 4 before this topic so it seems unreasonable to extrapolate that she not only was fully aware of this but used it to her benefit in relation to the mountain of threats she's legitimately received since her debut.
Then maybe you shouldn't speak on her motives if you don't know much about her and what's been going on recently?
I mean the fact you're even questioning someones credibility about getting death threats is a whole level of obnoxious.
crowphoenix
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And what was it in this thread that makes you think that? Of course it is possible, but as the University confirmed the threats, we either have to assume she is giving a speech here in hopes of...? Or that she made the threat to get her already very public name in the circle discussing this more public?
She has also received numerous death threats from other locations.
So until she is proven a liar, I will believe her.
Can't blame her, if she didn't feel safe then why hang around and make yourself a target.
She made the right call cancelling.
Agreed. If she want her work to be treated academically then she needs to either stop using other video content without permission or cite her sources.
Then again her video is mostly her own opinion, so I am not sure if her work can be viewed academically.
She made the right call cancelling.
Agreed. If she want her work to be treated academically then she needs to either stop using other video content without permission or cite her sources.
Then again her video is mostly her own opinion, so I am not sure if her work can be viewed academically.
Zomba13
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It's a women involved in video games in some way. Of course we're on the victim blaming track.
"Oh she knew she'd get death threats, why did she do a video online?"
"Oh she knew people would post her information online forcing her to go to the cops and leave her home. Why does she keep doing this? It's all her fault?"
People should just sign their posts with #Gamergate so we know who the misogynistic assholes here are instead of hiding behind fake concern.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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You're right, I was thinking of someone else.
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was the post your avatar reminded me of
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