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Satya Nadella: Annual letter to stockholders. Content on new platforms will continue
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bitbydeath
Member
The Pleasure
Member
B.......b.....but some guy on Twitter said they were slowing down and even pausing bringing their games over to other platforms
Why is Krillin in that picture?
New generation of Xbox console confirmed!!! /sAllow me to provide the highlight of the highlight since everything else is white noise:
TheBomb
Member
I thought it means more games to other consoles.New generation of Xbox console confirmed!!! /s
Shareholders want more AI talk not things that aren't meeting expectations subscriber wise versus forecasts.
Gambit2483
Member
We're almost there brothers
ap_puff
Banned
Of course he wouldn't mention it, the message was headlined "relevance"
Bernardougf
Member
What if.... Aaron ...is..all.the.people?
ZehDon
Member
Microsoft: "We're only bringing some of our titles to other platforms."
NeoGAF: "Microsoft are lying! It'll be every game! They always lie! Everything they say is a lie!"
Microsoft: "We're going to continue to bring some of titles to other platforms."
NeoGAF: "God himself has never spoken a more objectively true statement. This is beyond question."
Never change, GAF.
NeoGAF: "Microsoft are lying! It'll be every game! They always lie! Everything they say is a lie!"
Microsoft: "We're going to continue to bring some of titles to other platforms."
NeoGAF: "God himself has never spoken a more objectively true statement. This is beyond question."
Never change, GAF.
Insanemaelstrom
Member
That's mainly because of how often Phil lies.
You can only believe someone for so long. So it's not wonder that people don't trust Phil anymore.
As for this statement, it's from Nadella. It's addressed to shareholders( lying to them generally has consequences, unlike lying to your fanbase). Nadella, unlike Phil, isn't a closet console warrior and he really doesn't have a reason to lie.
Is it really hard to believe why people think one is a liar and the other is not?.
XXL
Member
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
If what is true? He didn't actually say anything.
Fess
Member
It’s not his job to announce things, it’s Sarah Bond or Phil Spencer. And they’re silent as usual.
MS have no idea how to do PR and control the talk around their platform or IPs. Nobody is getting satisfied from vague talk like we hear here.
* Should console gamers originally on Playstation who’re interested in some Xbox IPs invest in a Xbox or stay on only PS5 and be in this begging mode phase and just sit there waiting for games to arrive, possibly, some day, maybe?
* Should console gamers originally on Xbox stay on only Xbox or invest in PS5/Pro and wait for Xbox games to possibly some day maybe arrive there?
Nobody knows, there are rumours of this and that but there is no definite way to plan ahead no matter where you originally were. Even on PC things are vague since there is no official solution for older games with no PC ports that people might have in their Xbox library.
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XXL
Member
Sometimes what people don't say.....says the most.
But he did mention being excited about bringing games to other platforms twice.
I mean.....he even mentioned the consoles for Playstation and Nintendo and (again) didn't even mention the Xbox console or Game Pass.
That's not normal.
coachmcguirk91
Member
No Xbox Call of Duty Bundle tells you exactly how Microsoft views their console. At a minimum, Call of Duty should be plastered on every Xbox as an advertisement for Gamepass. That's if they truly want to sell the console and platform
Yes normally MS won't mention direct competitors. Everything must be kum ba ya up there.
Sometimes what people don't say.....says the most.
But he did mention being excited about bringing games to other platforms twice.
I mean.....he even mentioned the consoles for Playstation and Nintendo and (again) didn't even mention the Xbox console or Game Pass.
That's not normal.
demigod
Member
Fakeass wannabe insider.
kapshin
Member
Unless there is some clause in the acquisition deal preventing this, I don't understand why they wouldn't.
demigod
Member
Who, extasis?
ZehDon
Member
Not quite. Executives for a publicly traded company are legally prohibited from lying about the investment prospects of their business endeavours - lying about things like Game Pass being profitable, for example, is illegal, because it misrepresents their financial position. However, there is no law that forces a company to stick to its projected business plans in letters to shareholders. If Microsoft decides "Fuck it, no more games on PlayStation" there is precisely zero repercussions for this regardless of Nadella's statements here. He may be asked to explain the decision on an investor call, but given Microsoft's overall performance under his leadership, he's got a very, very long leash from Microsoft's investors.
Yes, because those same people selectively believe Microsoft when it suites whatever story they're telling.
Microsoft: "We're already working hard on the next Xbox hardware."
NeoGAF: "They're lying. Microsoft will never make more Xbox hardware and will release everything on PlayStation."
Microsoft: "We're going to pick titles on a game-by-game basis for multiplatform release."
NeoGAF: "They're lying. They're discontinuing their hardware and releasing everything on PlayStation."
Microsoft: "We're going to continue to release some of our games on other platforms."
NeoGAF: "This is 100% true. Except he meant to say they're releasing everything on PlayStation... and discontinuing their hardware."
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yurinka
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They obviously will continue expanding to the other consoles.
The Xbox consoles sales are dying, and looking at the amount of people who worked in games like CoDMW3 (over 9000 people), Diablo IV (around 9000 people) or Starfield (around 4000 people), just with GP and a few sales in Xbox or mostly PC won't be enough.
They obviously need the game sales from PS and (in cases where the game fits and makes sense) Switch if they want to grow their business and make it sustainable.
And on top of this, they need to avoid giving away day one -at least their big games- on GP, specially in the tiers that aren't the most expensive one.
The Xbox consoles sales are dying, and looking at the amount of people who worked in games like CoDMW3 (over 9000 people), Diablo IV (around 9000 people) or Starfield (around 4000 people), just with GP and a few sales in Xbox or mostly PC won't be enough.
They obviously need the game sales from PS and (in cases where the game fits and makes sense) Switch if they want to grow their business and make it sustainable.
And on top of this, they need to avoid giving away day one -at least their big games- on GP, specially in the tiers that aren't the most expensive one.
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solidus12
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FrankWza
Gold Member
Coming to PC instead of going. He's getting his marching orders crossed.
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ChorizoPicozo
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coachmcguirk91
Member
It's just bizarre if there are restrictions around COD. For instance, with COD, Xbox's youtube channel advertises Gamepass for PC and Xbox but Activision's channel doesn't. TV ads don't mention Xbox or Gamepass either. If there are restrictions, it seems to be quite elaborate about what is allowed and what isn't
But yeah, maybe there has to be something in place. COD bundles print money. Playstation seemingly had them every year when they had marketing
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poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
He only mentioned Windows twice and both times it was about AI devices nothing to do with the OS itself. Doesn't mean that they are giving up on the PC OS market.
Sometimes what people don't say.....says the most.
But he did mention being excited about bringing games to other platforms twice.
I mean.....he even mentioned the consoles for Playstation and Nintendo and (again) didn't even mention the Xbox console or Game Pass.
That's not normal.
They aren't going to highlight the xbox console, because it is has fallen hard and it is also a money sink. You don't highlight your failures when you are trying to sell your company to investors.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
i dont think phil lies. he is just constantly given marching orders that seem to change week by week. he was given the directive to squeeze every nickel out of the gaming sector and the most profitable path is just being a 3rd party publisher when you have such a large and unwieldy collection of studios to manage. bean counters must have figured its worth foregoing the 30% storefront cut of being a platform holder to chase larger audiences.
Topher
Identifies as young
The problem is that folks are rightfully going to expect him to be true to his words. So I think the fact that he has to answer to folks who are pressing him to make profits is completely understandable, but he is the one who decides to say the stuff he says. Bottom line, imo, is he just talks too much and puts himself on a pedestal that is easy for folks to knock over when his words and actions don't line up.
Cyberpunkd
Member
And then the bullshitters will just ignore what they said and report on this for double engagement.
nowhat
Member
It's far easier to believe business daddy, instead of step-son Phil who just stole business daddy's credit card.
Hero of Spielberg
Member
Yes, Nadella had no idea they were buying Activision until he got the credit card bill. Very awkward for all involved when the bill showed up in leather-bound editions.
Daneel Elijah
Member
Some people do that in this forum, yes. But Microsoft showed us twice exactly how fast they can lie to us and have to change course when reality hit the door.
First was the red ring of death, denied then admitted. But the Xbox one debacle was even better in that regard. We can't cut the camera. It's not that easy. It was when they had to.
This generation, Microsoft tried to sandwitch the PS5 between 2 consoles. It failed to do better than Microsoft previous generation. They tried to tell us that they had lot of games, and got a one year silence followed by Redfall, their first next gen only game. After last year PR fiasco, and the business update event, we have good reasons to think that if the console business is in such dire traits that they need to sell their games in others platforms it is logical to believe that most of their future games can go to those platforms. The reason that made them be in this path are still there after all.
Iced Arcade
Member
Just announce that everything is going multiplatform so people can save money and just buy a PlayStation.
Topher
Identifies as young
Or even the claim that Phil Spencer made that it would be "just four games" that were being ported to other consoles and that their fundamental approach to exclusivity wasn't changing. That was just 8 months ago and it was bullshit.
Hero of Spielberg
Member
I don't know if this necessarily means they will distribute all their published games to PS and Nintendo.
He has spoken before about Activision allowing them to expand to Nintendo, PC and Playstation ...
"We love gaming. In fact, Microsoft Flight Simulator was born even before Windows. But, we were number three, number four. And now with Activision I think we have a chance of being a good publisher — quite frankly — on Sony, Nintendo, PCs and Xbox.
So yeah, we're excited about that acquisition closing and I'm glad we got it through."
He's also spoken about their focus on Xbox ...
"For us, our investment in gaming fundamentally was to have, I would say, the right portfolio of both what we love about gaming and always have loved about gaming — which is Xbox, and the content for the console, and expand from there so that we have content for everywhere people play games, starting with the PC."
So if we take him at his word. Xbox will continue to be their focus and they will also publish games on other platforms including PC, Nintendo, PS, Cloud and mobile.
He has spoken before about Activision allowing them to expand to Nintendo, PC and Playstation ...
"We love gaming. In fact, Microsoft Flight Simulator was born even before Windows. But, we were number three, number four. And now with Activision I think we have a chance of being a good publisher — quite frankly — on Sony, Nintendo, PCs and Xbox.
So yeah, we're excited about that acquisition closing and I'm glad we got it through."
He's also spoken about their focus on Xbox ...
"For us, our investment in gaming fundamentally was to have, I would say, the right portfolio of both what we love about gaming and always have loved about gaming — which is Xbox, and the content for the console, and expand from there so that we have content for everywhere people play games, starting with the PC."
So if we take him at his word. Xbox will continue to be their focus and they will also publish games on other platforms including PC, Nintendo, PS, Cloud and mobile.
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HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
MS was successful in creating a gaming landscape that is dominated by one single quasi monopoly, just not exactly the way they imagined it for themselves.
nowhat
Member
I'm not saying there was no idea. But at some point, Nadella has to rationalize this to the shareholders. Which is where the honesty comes into play. Something Phil hasn't been forced to do, thus far.
Hero of Spielberg
Member
Of course he would. And the rationale is it allows them to expand into mobile, PS and Nintendo. Specifically by way of COD which they now collect a 70% cut of every copy sold on PS.
Not exactly a bitter pill to swallow for investors.
PurePlatinum
Member
Yeah. I think they are slowly trickling out the news because it’s less painful to dedicated Xbox consumers.