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[Humdinger]

The login will be coming since everything Microsoft makes now will have online components.

Sony can refuse the gamepass app but Microsoft has a lot of leverage with its IP. As well gamepass is a streaming app which will be hard for Sony to not allow given it allows EA and Ubisoft to have subscription services (and download unpaid for games as part of the service).
On top of this Recent decisions in the US courts have not been favorable to walled garden ecosystems.

I could see Sony potentially accepting a chopped-down version of GP, like the Ubisoft "classics" tier - but not one that includes the Day 1 giveaways. That would cut into game sales and profits too much. It would just be suicidal. Even MS would get hurt from doing that, because they are relying on PS game sales to make a profit.

I could see a stripped down, "classics" version of Xbox games being pretty appealing. The old Halo, Gears, Forza, and Fable games, maybe some other Xbox exclusives of yore, available to play for $15/month (or whatever). I bet a lot of people would sign up for that. Sony would probably be okay with it, since it wouldn't be such a direct competitor to PS+, and they would take 30% off the top.

Now, whether Microsoft would be okay with that - that's a different story. On the one hand, it would save them the work and expense of porting those old titles, and it would give them a place on Playstation. Otoh, it would be the nail in the coffin for any console identity left at that point.

 

[PurePlatinum]

Colin constantly bragging about being smarter than other gaming journalists is so exhausting. It’s like bragging about being 5’5 in a room full of midgets.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

I could see Sony potentially accepting a chopped-down version of GP, like the Ubisoft "classics" tier - but not one that includes the Day 1 giveaways. That would cut into game sales and profits too much. It would just be suicidal. Even MS would get hurt from doing that, because they are relying on PS game sales to make a profit.

I could see a stripped down, "classics" version of Xbox games being pretty appealing. The old Halo, Gears, Forza, and Fable games, maybe some other Xbox exclusives of yore, available to play for $15/month (or whatever). I bet a lot of people would sign up for that. Sony would probably be okay with it, since it wouldn't be such a direct competitor to PS+, and they would take 30% off the top.

Now, whether Microsoft would be okay with that - that's a different story. On the one hand, it would save them the work and expense of porting those old titles, and it would give them a place on Playstation. Otoh, it would be the nail in the coffin for any console identity left at that point.

I don't why people frame the issue of GP on PS or the use of Steam in the hypothetical Next-Box as something Play Station or valve accepting as if MS is the one in a position of power.

Sony will never allow GP on Playstation. especially today more than ever when MS literally needs the revenue from game sales to survive. GP on Playstation doesn't make any business sense for PS at all either.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Colin constantly bragging about being smarter than other gaming journalists is so exhausting. It’s like bragging about being 5’5 in a room full of midgets.

the dude was canceled for making a dad Joke. i will also brag to throw shade to those clowns. and he also has said that he is petty like that.

 

[PendekarRajawali]

xbox owners/fans....................

I'm rich, I have both consoles unlike broke sony and xbox fanboys.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Colin constantly bragging about being smarter than other gaming journalists is so exhausting. It’s like bragging about being 5’5 in a room full of midgets.

He’s not wrong tho. The writing was on the wall with $70b reasons and consoles not selling enough to justify that massive hole being exclusive.

It’s not being smarter than anyone, it’s applying logic to the boardrooms.

And yes, half those “journalists” and industry people live in bubbles and come off obtuse as shit. The other half are shills and access media teetlets.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

He’s not wrong tho. The writing was on the wall with $70b reasons and consoles not selling enough to justify that massive hole being exclusive.

It’s not being smarter than anyone, it’s applying logic to the boardrooms.

And yes, half those “journalists” and industry people live in bubbles and come off obtuse as shit. The other half are shills and access media teetlets.

I think the writing was on the wall before that.

When they bought Bethesda, and didnt cut off all the games on other console platforms, it showed they didnt care that much. Let existing purchasers redownload their games if they need to, but why leave up the tons of Bethesda games on Sony and Switch e-stores like nothing happened for new gamer purchases. Take them all down and if someone wants them, they got to buy it on Xbox or PC.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I think the writing was on the wall before that.

When they bought Bethesda, and didnt cut off all the games on other console platforms, it showed they didnt care that much. Let existing purchasers redownload their games if they need to, but why leave up the tons of Bethesda games on Sony and Switch e-stores like nothing happened for new gamer purchases. Take them all down and if someone wants them, they got to buy it on Xbox or PC.

That would have made for some horrible PR and hindered the ABK approval as well.

 

[gtabro]

Microsoft’s Satya Nadella Doubles Down On Xbox’s Confusing Strategy

Microsoft has rolled out a "This is an Xbox" campaign, attempting to show all the different places you can play Xbox games that are not on literal Xboxes.

www.forbes.com

Why did you write his name as if you’re a third grader? Are you a little fella indeed?

 

[DavidGzz]

They opened their legs to everyone, now nobody wants them. Big surprise.

 

[Edmund]

Punished Miku adamsapple Little Chicken DarkMage619

How's the parasocial relationship with Phil going with you guys? Is it still ongoing? Do you all still worship him? Any sense of embarrassment settling in or it's stlll as strong as ever?

 

[Astray]

Why did you write his name as if you’re a third grader? Are you a little fella indeed?

saintjules someone made a typo when writing Paul Tassi's name on some other column (I think it was the wukong one) and it stuck lol.

 

[TheGodfather07]

Didn't you guys check the circana thread? Xbox is dead. The this is an xbox marketing campaign is telling xbox fans to jump ship and they have been doing that already going by the latest numbers. I think they should go back to Microsoft game studios too. Drop the xbox name because its too damaged and comes with a negative perception.

 

[Humdinger]

I don't why people frame the issue of GP on PS or the use of Steam in the hypothetical Next-Box as something Play Station or valve accepting as if MS is the one in a position of power.

That was my interlocuter, not me. I agree that MS does not have the "leverage" he believes they have.

Sony will never allow GP on Playstation. especially today more than ever when MS literally needs the revenue from game sales to survive. GP on Playstation doesn't make any business sense for PS at all either.

Depends on what you mean by "GP." If you mean the version currently available on Xbox and PC, then the answer is no, of course not, for reasons mentioned earlier (and by many). But if you consider other variations of GP - for example, the stripped down "Xbox classics" version I sketched out above - then it becomes conceivable. In principle, that would be no different than what Sony already has in place with other third-party publishers, such as Ubisoft and EA, who offer a subscription package of their older games.

 

[Taur007]

It's only confusing for the people desperately trying to hold on to something that no longer exists.

Sorry Tassi.

What doesn't exist?

 

[adamsapple]

Punished Miku adamsapple Little Chicken DarkMage619

How's the parasocial relationship with Phil going with you guys? Is it still ongoing? Do you all still worship him? Any sense of embarrassment settling in or it's stlll as strong as ever?

Three successful Xbox consoles in the market right now and you still ask this? C'mon son.

 

[GHG]

What doesn't exist?

Xbox shills.

Prove me otherwise.

 

[mckmas8808]

Not all that confusing. Profit over hardware sales. If Xbox is successful in launching it's storefront on other devices, then hardware sales won't matter.

But we all know this isn't gonna happen. That's what makes it confusing.

 

[mckmas8808]

Colin is and was 1000% right on this the whole time. Many here felt the same way about Xbox when they showed that they were selling an Xbox Series S and X. Same with putting every 1st party game on GamePass day one. Both of these things were HORRIBLE ideas that could literally never work.

Yet half of GAF didn't wanna listen.