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[Stinkles]

.0000001% it could be true but what if it was the long con. From a Reddit user:

If you think about it, the US played a perfect end game. They knew Saudi Arabia was responsible for 9/11, but played along since taking Mecca would have united the entire Middle East and started a huge regional war. So the US started to chip away at every 'Cold War'-armed ME nation with direct invasions (Afghanistan, Iraq), revolutions (Arab Spring, Syria), and sanctions (Iran) until none were left standing.

Last year, the US 'made a deal' with Iran to lift sanctions in exchange for non-interference in future conflicts (Iran reduced forces in Syria as an act of good faith). Saudi Arabia knew its time was running out so they put their Wahhabi terrorism project (ISIS) into overdrive to delay/deter US intervention.

This is near the end for the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. The US has started to use its most powerful tool, the mass media, to rally their people and inform them of the true enemy. Economic withdrawal or military intervention will result, and the Kingdom will fall. There will be more terrorist attacks as this process continues, but we must hold steadfast and let justice be done.

Revenge is a dish best served cold.

Any conspiracy theory that requires more than three levels of geopolitical competency is creamy bullshit.

 

[Kurdel]

Okay let us say America fully blames the Saudis for 2001 attack

Good thing this isn't even remotely in the cards.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

It's not simply the need for oil that drives the relationship between Saudi Arabia and America, it's also a geopolitical relationship. Saudi Arabia is against Iran (Russia's ally), so Saudi Arabia keeps Iran's 'expansion' efforts to a minimum (Thus Russia's sphere of influence). Thats also why America is staunchly supporting Israel (The only 'real' democracy in the middle east).

The nuclear deal with Iran strongly suggests that the relationship has shifted. The Saudi royal family was close to the Bush family, but post-Bush the relationship has been much cooler. The Saudis wouldn't be lashing out like this otherwise.

Israel's vehement opposition to any deal with Iran did not stop America from making the deal. This is mainly because the relationship with Israel is predicated on political control, the Israelis have been controlling American politics for decades until Obama came along and didn't get along with Netanyahu. If Israel's control slips even for a moment, this is what happens. There's a reason why Israel are so determined to make sure Hillary loves Israel more than even the US, because they can ill afford another President out of their control like Obama was.

 

[Goro Majima]

Good thing this isn't even remotely in the cards.

Yeah the important thing to take away from all this is that literally nothing would happen beyond the report being released regardless of the results.

A few Saudi princes getting implicated would be the end of it. Could real action legally take place? Sure. Would it? No.

 

[TheRealTalker]

Good thing this isn't even remotely in the cards.

I don't care for the Saudis since they are currently killing people in Yemen (as well as Houthis)

but I just don't want another stupid war to occur will large amounts of innocent people will die for some ego run

I mean we are seeing slow reforms happening in the country and the old timers there are losing power to the larger youth base reaching adulthood

it seem way more feasible to put pressure or do diplomacy to a country then to just bomb them like crazy in which the US usually chooses

Plus like what you stated there are so many princes in that country that can just run around doing whatever they please that it becomes a loose canon that their government isn't really part of.

 

[Kurdel]

The Saudis wouldn't be lashing out like this otherwise.

You somehow forgot the price of Oil and the US getting Canadian oil reduced dependency on certain states and went to "Israel finally isn't controlling the US anymore".

There are many factors here.

I don't care for the Saudis since they are currently killing people in Yemen (as well as Houthis)

Same here.

With all the new taxes following the Oil crash, I can see the State being more messy before it gets any better.

But it's nice to see the SA government squirm.

 

[Stinkles]

You somehow forgot the price of Oil and the US getting Canadian oil reduced dependency on certain states and went to "Israel finally isn't controlling the US anymore".

There are many factors here.

The long term fear is an energy or energy storage singularity. Tesla is a small fish in a big pond making huge ripples. The positive is that it's forcing SA to think about an unthinkable future where eventually their primary markets are third world countries and plastics.

 

[Kurdel]

The long term fear is an energy or energy storage singularity. Tesla is a small fish in a big pond making huge ripples. The positive is that it's forcing SA to think about an unthinkable future where eventually their primary markets are third world countries and plastics.

Yep.

And the SA state can't easily privatize the Oil because of what damages the transparency and shareholders will bring to their corrupt system.

It's going to be a wild ride.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

You somehow forgot the price of Oil and the US getting Canadian oil reduced dependency on certain states and went to "Israel finally isn't controlling the US anymore".

There are many factors here.

One reason oil is extremely cheap right now because the oil exporting nations fear energy independence from major oil importing nations like the US. This is a direct result of the developing of fracking, interestingly enough. So oil has to be cheap in order to ensure there is no financial incentive to aggressively invest in fracking and also construction of expensive new power plants which use nuclear or renewable energy.

Speaking on the proxy war between Saudi Arabia and Iran and Russia, right now oil is also that proxy war because the Saudis are also trying to wage economic warfare against Iran and Russia with low oil prices. Russia in particular is being economically crushed by the low oil prices.

Finally, on the subject of Israel. There's a reason why Israel has no interest in backing Bernie Sanders, the actual Orthodox Jew who actually lived in Israel for a period of time during his childhood. Bernie has the same distant relationship with and lukewarm opinion of Netanyahu that Obama does. Meanwhile Israel loves Hillary who is more pro-Israel that George W. Bush was. It's pretty obvious the way Israel controls American politics, but until American public opinion which is still vastly majority pro-Israel turns, this is how the situation will remain.

I just hope that Hillary will not attempt to scrap Obama's nuclear deal with Iran when she becomes President, because isolating Iran has not been at all successful. The American relationship with Israel is completely one-sided and is against the American national interest. Let's not ever forget that Osama bin Laden crashed planes into the World Trade Center because of American support for Israel. The Saudis are not allies of America and never have been and backing Saudi Arabia is also against the American national interest. Let's also not ever forget that 15 of the 19 hijackers on 9/11 were Saudis.

 

[DirtyManos]

From what I understand, if doesn't look like we don't care about the selling at all. Id imagine theyd be bought up almost immediately, and maybe even at a loss for SA. We're talking about a country who had to buy farms in California to grow alfalfa to feed their cows because they're such in a heavy drought.

Any other country/group will buy those assets because they're so stable.

It looks like the main issue is retailatory legislation that removes the almost legal immunity Americans have, and of course military strategic value right?

 

[Ekai]

Okay let us say America fully blames the Saudis for 2001 attack

Then what?

Invade? Kill a ton of people who were youngsters at the time of the event who are now adults?

Bring that Democracy of Freedom they are known for.

After they wipe Saudi Arabia off the map with death then who is next... Iran? Then who else is next?

I am taking about pure invasion here of any country... it seems that is the only thing America loves to do. Invade and point fingers that they're never wrong.

It's eagerness for war that makes me quite nervous for whoever our next President is. I wouldn't characterize America as a whole of being trigger-happy but that is certainly a problem with how our country handles foreign affairs.

 

[cameron]

There won't be any wars over this.

From what I understand, if doesn't look like we don't care about the selling at all. Id imagine theyd be bought up almost immediately, and maybe even at a loss for SA. We're talking about a country who had to buy farms in California to grow alfalfa to feed their cows because they're such in a heavy drought.

Any other country/group will buy those assets because they're so stable.

It looks like the main issue is retailatory legislation that removes the almost legal immunity Americans have, and of course military strategic value right?

It does seem to be about allowing civil litigation and the risk of retaliatory legislation. From the NYT link, the bill in question is the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act (JASTA).

JASTA allows terrorism victims, like victims of the September 11th attacks, the right to pursue foreign states and sponsors of terrorism in federal court. The bill allows Americans to direct financial damage claims against those who funded the attacks. The legislation would also afford this right to families of other American victims of terrorism, that have occurred since September 11, 2001.

The following is a summary of the bill:

• First, JASTA amends the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act (FSA) so that foreign sponsors of terrorism cannot invoke “sovereign immunity” in cases arising from a terrorist attack that kills an American on American soil.
• Second, JASTA amends the ATA so that civil suits against foreign sponsors of terrorism can be held accountable in U.S. courts where their conducts contributes to an attack that kills an American.

Right now all foreign nations have sovereign immunity via the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act (FSIA) of 1976. The counter argument is that JASTA will cause other countries to impose their own legislation against the US. SA divestment by liquidating assets doesn't seem to be a concern.

If JASTA passes, and if Obama decides to declassify the 28 pages from the joint congressional intelligence inquiry that allegedly links SA to 9/11, I'd assume the pages will be used in whatever civil suits against SA. Both seem like two big separate ifs, and it would still be hard to prove direct involvement. All of this seems like a whole lot of nothing, other than SA protesting a bit too much, but I dunno.

 

[NullPointer]

I am taking about pure invasion here of any country... it seems that is the only thing America loves to do. Invade and point fingers that they're never wrong.

What an incredible oversimplification.

We also like to use drones.

 

[Hari Seldon]

Okay let us say America fully blames the Saudis for 2001 attack

Then what?

Invade? Kill a ton of people who were youngsters at the time of the event who are now adults?

Bring that Democracy of Freedom they are known for.

After they wipe Saudi Arabia off the map with death then who is next... Iran? Then who else is next?

I am taking about pure invasion here of any country... it seems that is the only thing America loves to do. Invade and point fingers that they're never wrong.

We don't need to do that. Declare war on the royal family only. Seize their bank accounts. Drone their planes. Make them hide from the sky and use smoke signals to communicate.

 

[Quixzlizx]

The nuclear deal with Iran strongly suggests that the relationship has shifted. The Saudi royal family was close to the Bush family, but post-Bush the relationship has been much cooler. The Saudis wouldn't be lashing out like this otherwise.

Israel's vehement opposition to any deal with Iran did not stop America from making the deal. This is mainly because the relationship with Israel is predicated on political control, the Israelis have been controlling American politics for decades until Obama came along and didn't get along with Netanyahu. If Israel's control slips even for a moment, this is what happens. There's a reason why Israel are so determined to make sure Hillary loves Israel more than even the US, because they can ill afford another President out of their control like Obama was.

The Israelis must really be the chosen people considering the power you think they possess.

I just hope that Hillary will not attempt to scrap Obama's nuclear deal with Iran when she becomes President, because isolating Iran has not been at all successful. The American relationship with Israel is completely one-sided and is against the American national interest. Let's not ever forget that Osama bin Laden crashed planes into the World Trade Center because of American support for Israel. The Saudis are not allies of America and never have been and backing Saudi Arabia is also against the American national interest. Let's also not ever forget that 15 of the 19 hijackers on 9/11 were Saudis.

Actually, the #1 reason why Osama attacked the US was the American troops basing out of Saudi Arabia during the Persian Gulf war.

 

[ElTorro]

The Israelis must really be the chosen people considering the power you think they possess.

A few decades ago, the popular conspiracy theory was that Jews ran the world through the banking sector. Now they run the world into the ground through the existence of Israel. You wonder how the people who apparently run the world could become the victims of the most brutal genocide in human history. They should just accept that their neighbors want to "drive them into the ocean" and stop crying.

 

[Jotaka]

If Saudi Arabia get blamed by 9/11... They will get sued non-stop by every single american and all their assets would be sized lol

 

[Unknown Soldier]

A few decades ago, the popular conspiracy theory was that Jews ran the world through the banking sector. Now they run the world into the ground through the existence of Israel. You wonder how the people who apparently run the world could become the victims of the most brutal genocide in human history. They should just accept that their neighbors want to "drive them into the ocean" and stop crying.

Yep, that's absolutely right, so taking it out on the Palestinians is definitely the solution! Let's encourage more oppression of Palestinians, that will definitely make things right in European history! Didn't you know that 2 wrongs make a right?

 

[ElTorro]

Yep, that's absolutely right, so taking it out on the Palestinians is definitely the solution! Let's encourage more oppression of Palestinians, that will definitely make things right in European history! Didn't you know that 2 wrongs make a right?

We can only have a reasonable discussion about the role of Israel in the world once people with an historical memory that does not reach beyond the last five years top saying that they control American politics.

 

[RumblingRosco]

.0000001% it could be true but what if it was the long con. From a Reddit user:

If you think about it, the US played a perfect end game. They knew Saudi Arabia was responsible for 9/11, but played along since taking Mecca would have united the entire Middle East and started a huge regional war. So the US started to chip away at every 'Cold War'-armed ME nation with direct invasions (Afghanistan, Iraq), revolutions (Arab Spring, Syria), and sanctions (Iran) until none were left standing.

Last year, the US 'made a deal' with Iran to lift sanctions in exchange for non-interference in future conflicts (Iran reduced forces in Syria as an act of good faith). Saudi Arabia knew its time was running out so they put their Wahhabi terrorism project (ISIS) into overdrive to delay/deter US intervention.

This is near the end for the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. The US has started to use its most powerful tool, the mass media, to rally their people and inform them of the true enemy. Economic withdrawal or military intervention will result, and the Kingdom will fall. There will be more terrorist attacks as this process continues, but we must hold steadfast and let justice be done.

Revenge is a dish best served cold.

Definitely bullshit, but man, I want a fictional story written based on this.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

We can only have a reasonable discussion about the role of Israel in the world once people with an historical memory that does not reach beyond the last five years top saying that they control American politics.

It's closer to decades of control, since the declaration of the State of Israel in 1948. The US was one of Israel's closest founding allies, and at the time Israel was in fact immediately invaded by it's putative Arab neighbors and a war was fought to establish the state's existence and immediate survival. But fast forward decades later and Israel is the country with nuclear weapons, a people held as prisoners within their own borders, a political system which rewards ultra-nationalism and racism, and the only reason they have all this military hardware they use to kill Palestinians is the US.

Yeah, there's a lot of historical memory there, and it's funny how the saying "You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain" is so incredibly applicable to Israel.

 

[Quixzlizx]

It's closer to decades of control, since the declaration of the State of Israel in 1948. The US was one of Israel's closest founding allies, and at the time Israel was in fact immediately invaded by it's putative Arab neighbors and a war was fought to establish the state's existence and immediate survival. But fast forward decades later and Israel is the country with nuclear weapons, a people held as prisoners within their own borders, a political system which rewards ultra-nationalism and racism, and the only reason they have all this military hardware they use to kill Palestinians is the US.

Yeah, there's a lot of historical memory there, and it's funny how the saying "You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain" is so incredibly applicable to Israel.

The bolded is one of your several factual inaccuracies in this thread. Israel was essentially supplied with Czech military equipment smuggled with French assistance, and British equipment stolen and/or left behind during their withdrawal.

Also, in 1956, the US demanded that Israel/England/France withdraw from the Suez Canal because they didn't want the Arabs to fall under Russian influence, so clearly they weren't the closest of allies then, either.

Pointing out the improper actions of Israel's government is one thing, but weaving a story of American dupes and their Israeli puppetmasters is definitely getting into shady territory, especially since you've shown you don't really know what you're talking about.

 

[Byakuya769]

A huge reason why I'm not a fan of these sovereign wealth funds. But fuck it. If the facts pint that way, DO IT.

 

[Lord Panda]

Call the Saudis bluff already... They've been a blight on world affairs for far too long.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

The bolded is one of your several factual inaccuracies in this thread. Israel was essentially supplied with Czech military equipment smuggled with French assistance, and British equipment stolen and/or left behind during their withdrawal.

Also, in 1956, the US demanded that Israel/England/France withdraw from the Suez Canal because they didn't want the Arabs to fall under Russian influence, so clearly they weren't the closest of allies then, either.

Pointing out the improper actions of Israel's government is one thing, but weaving a story of American dupes and their Israeli puppetmasters is definitely getting into shady territory, especially since you've shown you don't really know what you're talking about.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab–Israeli_War

In 1946, Ben-Gurion decided that the Yishuv would probably have to defend itself against both the Palestinian Arabs and neighbouring Arab states and accordingly began a "massive, covert arms acquisition campaign in the West", and acquired many more during the first few months of hostilities.
The Yishuv managed to clandestinely amass arms and military equipment abroad for transfer to Palestine once the British blockade was lifted. In the United States, Yishuv agents purchased three B-17 bombers, one of which bombed Cairo in July 1948, some C-46 transport planes, and dozens of half-tracks, which were repainted and defined as "agricultural equipment". In Western Europe, Haganah agents amassed fifty 65mm French mountain guns, twelve 120mm mortars, ten H-35 light tanks, and a large number of half-tracks. By mid-May or thereabouts the Yishuv had purchased from Czechoslovakia 25 Avia S-199 fighters (an inferior version of the Messerschmitt ME-109), 200 heavy machine guns, 5,021 light machine guns, 24,500 rifles, and 52 million rounds of ammunition, enough to equip all units, but short of heavy arms.[44] The airborne arms smuggling missions from Czechoslovakia were codenamed Operation Balak.
The airborne smuggling missions were carried out by mostly American aviators – Jews and non-Jews – led by ex-U.S. Air Transport Command flight engineer Al Schwimmer.
Schwimmer’s operation also included recruiting and training fighter pilots such as Lou Lenart, commander of the first Israeli air assault against the Arabs.[45][46]

Israel got it's first long-range bombers from the US. The arms were brought in by Americans. The Czechs did sell the future Israelis some fighters though. Well? Care to respond to this?

 

[Quixzlizx]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab–Israeli_War



Israel got it's first long-range bombers from the US. The arms were brought in by Americans. The Czechs did sell the future Israelis some fighters though. Well? Care to respond to this?

It sounds like that was all done through American individuals... so I guess if that makes US "one of Israel's closest allies" in 1948, it also means the KSA is at least 15/19 directly responsible for 9/11.

Edit: From the Wikipedia source:

A WING AND A PRAYER tells the remarkable, if little-known, story of an improbable group of World War II veterans who risked their lives and American citizenships to give the newborn state of Israel a chance to survive. In 1947, the United Nations voted to partition British-controlled Palestine between the Arabs and Jews. The Jews agreed to the two-state deal, but the Palestinian Arabs (two-thirds of Palestine's population) rejected the plan. In response, the five-nation Arab League vowed to conquer all of Palestine. Moved by the plight of Holocaust survivors and Jews trapped in Palestine, former U.S. Air Transport Command flight engineer Adolph Schwimmer masterminded a plan to arm the besieged Palestinian Jews. Schwimmer and his crew of pilots smuggled 12 million dollars' worth of World War II surplus rifles, machine guns, bullets and planes into ill-equipped Israel just as the 1948 Arab-Israeli War broke out. Schwimmer's group – made up of Jews and non-Jews – eluded the FBI, outsmarted the U.S. State Department and created fictitious airlines to help the Israeli army ward off attacks from Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Egypt. Produced to commemorate the 70th anniversary of the end of World War II, A WING AND A PRAYER follows the twists and turns of this clandestine operation. Narrated by William Baldwin, the documentary features interviews with more than 20 of the operation's key aviators, their family members and historians.

 

[Fusebox]

How the fuck does SA own hundreds of billions of dollars’ worth of American assets in the first place?!?

 

[Unknown Soldier]

It sounds like that was all done through American individuals... so I guess if that makes US "one of Israel's closest allies" in 1948, it also means the KSA is at least 15/19 directly responsible for 9/11.

Really, so according to you American individuals had some B-17 Flying Fortress bombers, the same ones used in World War II, laying around to sell to the future Israelis? I'm the US Government was more than happy to let private individuals own and sell long-range bombers! Come on.

 

[Quixzlizx]

Really, so according to you American individuals had some B-17 Flying Fortress bombers, the same ones used in World War II, laying around to sell to the future Israelis? I'm the US Government was more than happy to let private individuals own and sell long-range bombers! Come on.

No, the former military people who decided to help the Jews in Israel probably had contacts that allowed them to steal/smuggle military equipment. It seemed pretty clear by what I quoted.

I would say that American foreign policy did not turn unequivocally pro-Israel until the Camp David accords, the Iranian revolution and then the Lebanese civil war. Until then, we were still trying to balance the Arabs and Jews against each other whenever possible.

 

[Sir Abacus]

How the fuck does SA own hundreds of billions of dollars’ worth of American assets in the first place?!?

Treasuries. Nobody gives a shit about Saudi Riyals as a currency. USD are the king. When you have hundreds of billions of dollars you need some place to stash it and the FIDC limit is a quarter of a million. Treasuries are backed by the full faith and credit of the United States. They're pretty much the safest thing in the world as far as keeping your cash safe.

 

[orochi91]

How the fuck does SA own hundreds of billions of dollars’ worth of American assets in the first place?!?

They're "allies" with the US.

This unholy relationship goes back decades, and I imagine there are several other unsavory states that own billions worth of US assets.

Treasuries. Nobody gives a shit about Saudi Riyals as a currency. USD are the king. When you have hundreds of billions of dollars you need some place to stash it and the FIDC limit is a quarter of a million. Treasuries are backed by the full faith and credit of the United States. They're pretty much the safest thing in the world as far as keeping your cash safe.

+1

This too.

 

[TheLaughingStock]

Who is buying the assets? I already have so much sitting in my accounts earning interest so I'm not in the market right now.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

No, the former military people who decided to help the Jews in Israel probably had contacts that allowed them to steal/smuggle military equipment. It seemed pretty clear by what I quoted.

I would say that American foreign policy did not turn unequivocally pro-Israel until the Camp David accords, the Iranian revolution and then the Lebanese civil war. Until then, we were still trying to balance the Arabs and Jews against each other whenever possible.

Fair enough, that documentary you mentioned seems pretty interesting too.

I won't continue to argue about the history I wasn't yet alive for, but bringing it back to the present, I stand by my comments regarding the present state of the Middle East and the American-Israeli relationship.

 

[Sir Abacus]

Who is buying the assets? I already have so much sitting in my accounts earning interest so I'm not in the market right now.

Anyone. US treasuries are traded on the open market and are the most liquid security on the planet. They're treated as cash equivalents because of this.

 

[Chumly]

Even if they dumped US assets I think the economic impact would be minimal to the United States verses Saudis Arabia selling on a discount. Ultimately everyone would end up snatching up their assets at a discount verses letting the economy just crash.

 

[cameron]

How the fuck does SA own hundreds of billions of dollars’ worth of American assets in the first place?!?

As noted above, some of it is US debt sold in the form of securities. The US dollar is considered to be the world's reserve currency. Everyone is buying.

                                        MAJOR FOREIGN HOLDERS OF TREASURY SECURITIES
                                                  (in billions of dollars)
                                                HOLDINGS 1/ AT END OF PERIOD


                        Feb     Jan     Dec     Nov     Oct     Sep     Aug     Jul     Jun     May     Apr     Mar     Feb
Country                 2016    2016    2015    2015    2015    2015    2015    2015    2015    2015    2015    2015    2015
                      ------  ------  ------  ------  ------  ------  ------  ------  ------  ------  ------  ------  ------

China, Mainland       1252.3  1237.9  1246.1  1264.5  1254.8  1258.0  1270.5  1268.8  1271.2  1270.3  1263.4  1261.0  1223.7
Japan                 1133.1  1123.5  1122.6  1144.9  1149.2  1177.1  1197.0  1200.8  1197.1  1214.9  1215.9  1224.7  1224.4
Carib Bkg Ctrs 4/      361.1   350.5   351.7   336.6   322.2   322.7   329.2   323.9   318.5   311.4   295.6   292.8   281.6
[b]Oil Exporters 3/       281.0   293.0   292.5   289.0   291.4   291.3   293.2   298.4   296.7   296.8   292.9   297.3   296.8[/b]
Ireland                255.5   252.2   265.1   246.4   232.9   222.5   216.4   216.6   217.7   209.0   215.7   214.3   206.5
Brazil                 247.3   255.7   254.8   255.0   255.0   251.6   255.3   257.9   256.3   258.5   262.7   261.5   259.9
United Kingdom 2/      236.5   223.3   218.3   215.4   211.7   215.1   223.9   214.1   215.7   200.1   195.8   200.4   194.0
Switzerland            236.2   237.4   231.9   227.1   225.6   227.6   222.7   218.4   217.0   222.7   215.8   211.8   201.7
Luxembourg             208.8   200.2   200.5   193.0   188.2   191.0   184.8   185.2   183.4   177.0   171.0   176.7   179.2
Hong Kong              201.7   201.6   200.2   196.6   197.0   198.6   193.2   182.8   181.3   186.3   183.1   180.7   175.4

.....


 *   Includes holdings of Treasury bonds and notes as reported on TIC Form SLT, "Aggregate Holdings of Long-Term Securities by U.S.
     and Foreign Residents"
 1/  The data in this table are collected primarily from U.S.-based custodians and broker-dealers. Since U.S. securities held in
     overseas custody accounts may not be attributed to the actual owners, the data may not provide a precise accounting of
     individual country ownership of Treasury securities
     (see TIC FAQ #7 at: http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/data-chart-center/tic/Pages/ticfaq1.aspx).
     Estimated foreign holdings of U.S. Treasury marketable and non-marketable bills, bonds, and notes reported under the Treasury
     International Capital (TIC) reporting system are based on annual Surveys of Foreign Holdings of U.S. Securities and on
     monthly data.
 2/  United Kingdom includes Channel Islands and Isle of Man.
[b] 3/  Oil exporters include Ecuador, Venezuela, Indonesia, Bahrain, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar,
     Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Algeria, Gabon, Libya, and Nigeria[/b].
 4/  Caribbean Banking Centers include Bonaire, St. Eustatius, and Saba; Bahamas; Bermuda; Cayman Islands; Curacao; Sint Maarten; and
     Panama.
     Beginning with new series for June 2006, also includes British Virgin Islands.

http://ticdata.treasury.gov/Publish/mfh.txt

 

[Krappadizzle]

Okay let us say America fully blames the Saudis for 2001 attack

Then what?

Invade? Kill a ton of people who were youngsters at the time of the event who are now adults?

Bring that Democracy of Freedom they are known for.

After they wipe Saudi Arabia off the map with death then who is next... Iran? Then who else is next?

I am taking about pure invasion here of any country... it seems that is the only thing America loves to do. Invade and point fingers that they're never wrong.

I don't see it at as unfair looking for any amount of small closure that helps the thousands of innocent people's families that were murdered.

 

[Fusebox]

As noted above, some of it is US debt sold in the form of securities. The US dollar is considered to be the world's reserve currency. Everyone is buying.

                                        MAJOR FOREIGN HOLDERS OF TREASURY SECURITIES
                                                  (in billions of dollars)
                                                HOLDINGS 1/ AT END OF PERIOD


                        Feb     Jan     Dec     Nov     Oct     Sep     Aug     Jul     Jun     May     Apr     Mar     Feb
Country                 2016    2016    2015    2015    2015    2015    2015    2015    2015    2015    2015    2015    2015
                      ------  ------  ------  ------  ------  ------  ------  ------  ------  ------  ------  ------  ------

China, Mainland       1252.3  1237.9  1246.1  1264.5  1254.8  1258.0  1270.5  1268.8  1271.2  1270.3  1263.4  1261.0  1223.7
Japan                 1133.1  1123.5  1122.6  1144.9  1149.2  1177.1  1197.0  1200.8  1197.1  1214.9  1215.9  1224.7  1224.4
Carib Bkg Ctrs 4/      361.1   350.5   351.7   336.6   322.2   322.7   329.2   323.9   318.5   311.4   295.6   292.8   281.6
[b]Oil Exporters 3/       281.0   293.0   292.5   289.0   291.4   291.3   293.2   298.4   296.7   296.8   292.9   297.3   296.8[/b]
Ireland                255.5   252.2   265.1   246.4   232.9   222.5   216.4   216.6   217.7   209.0   215.7   214.3   206.5
Brazil                 247.3   255.7   254.8   255.0   255.0   251.6   255.3   257.9   256.3   258.5   262.7   261.5   259.9
United Kingdom 2/      236.5   223.3   218.3   215.4   211.7   215.1   223.9   214.1   215.7   200.1   195.8   200.4   194.0
Switzerland            236.2   237.4   231.9   227.1   225.6   227.6   222.7   218.4   217.0   222.7   215.8   211.8   201.7
Luxembourg             208.8   200.2   200.5   193.0   188.2   191.0   184.8   185.2   183.4   177.0   171.0   176.7   179.2
Hong Kong              201.7   201.6   200.2   196.6   197.0   198.6   193.2   182.8   181.3   186.3   183.1   180.7   175.4

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 *   Includes holdings of Treasury bonds and notes as reported on TIC Form SLT, "Aggregate Holdings of Long-Term Securities by U.S.
     and Foreign Residents"
 1/  The data in this table are collected primarily from U.S.-based custodians and broker-dealers. Since U.S. securities held in
     overseas custody accounts may not be attributed to the actual owners, the data may not provide a precise accounting of
     individual country ownership of Treasury securities
     (see TIC FAQ #7 at: http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/data-chart-center/tic/Pages/ticfaq1.aspx).
     Estimated foreign holdings of U.S. Treasury marketable and non-marketable bills, bonds, and notes reported under the Treasury
     International Capital (TIC) reporting system are based on annual Surveys of Foreign Holdings of U.S. Securities and on
     monthly data.
 2/  United Kingdom includes Channel Islands and Isle of Man.
[b] 3/  Oil exporters include Ecuador, Venezuela, Indonesia, Bahrain, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar,
     Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Algeria, Gabon, Libya, and Nigeria[/b].
 4/  Caribbean Banking Centers include Bonaire, St. Eustatius, and Saba; Bahamas; Bermuda; Cayman Islands; Curacao; Sint Maarten; and
     Panama.
     Beginning with new series for June 2006, also includes British Virgin Islands.

http://ticdata.treasury.gov/Publish/mfh.txt

That makes sense, not sure why they'd refer to US debt as a US 'asset' though.

 

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Sounds 100% what an innocent party would do.