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Saw: Official Movie Thread

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aparisi2274

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HOLY SHIT!!!!


This movie fucking SUCKED!!!!!!

The actors were horrible. The dialogue was utter crap. What a worthless movie this was. The only good part was the
twist
at the end, and hell that wasnt even that shocking.

Bastards. I want my money back
 

MIMIC

Banned
Well, over at Rotten Tomatoes, it got a better review than "The Grudge (American Version)," and I thought that that was an OK movie (in terms of shock value).
 
Yup. :( I was looking forward to this for so long, too. Oh well, next week = Pixar + Star Wars + Brad Bird = Movie Heaven.
 

aparisi2274

Member
EakeLarth said:
Sold out where I was at. Something tells me it might do great in theatres.


Yeah it will do great because people like me who went to the 9:45pm show are all sheep and we follow the almighty hollywood advertising campaign.

Bitches!!!!

Why cant anyone make a good Horror movie anymore. Dont they know it doesnt all have to be about gore. I mean hell, the Exorcist scared the hell out of me when I saw it, because it fucked with my mind.


Also, Cary Elws should stick to speaking in his british accent, because his American one SUCKS!!!!!
 

Matlock

Banned
Jesus christ, not this movie...not this movie. I have no idea why, maybe they're getting commission, but I've seen pimping for SAW all over the place, even in an email from my job.

"I hope it's not to late in the game for you all to try and make other plans for a Friday night. I suggest going to the new movie SAW, but ya'll will come up with something."

asdf
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
I saw a free sneak preview on tuesday night, and I kind of enjoyed it. I thought the concept of the movie and some of the imagery made up for the bad acting at parts. People were laughing their fucking asses off at the acting towards the ending, though, which made it even worse. I'm trying to form soem thoughts on it but i'm slightly drunk.......maybe I'll add something tomorrow. I almost made a thread about it after I SAW(haha) it tuesady, but I was too torn over whether I liked it or not. Yeah the acting towards the ening was ridiculous.

-*guy1 crawling away bleeding to death with dramatic music playing in the background as guy2 watches*

-*guy1 stops and turns his head towards guy2, dramatic music stops*....."it's..gonna be..okay..."

-*guy1 turns back and continues crawling as dramatic music comes back on*

oh shit that was just fucking ridiculous. the one part wher ei couldn't help but laught.
 

Baron Aloha

A Shining Example
Elwes starts to seriously overact about half way though the film and the dialogue between his character, Dr Gordon, and Adam is funny at times.

Having said that, I thoroughly enjoyed the film. The killings and imagery were twisted and I liked the concept of a killer who doesn't actually kill anyone. The twist at the end was great. Its probably the first thriller in the last 10 years where I didn't see the twist coming at all and I usually am able to figure them out within the first half hour or so.
 
Gah. I'm torn as well. I kinda enjoyed it. It wasn't the greatest horror movie ever, but I'm not sitting here wishing I had my money or time back in hand. Everyone's complaint will be the acting. Dr. Gordon should've been Phillip Seymour Hoffman or William H Macy... that's all I could think about during the movie.
 
I thought it was fucking awesome, but yeah the acting was weak in places and some of the dialogue was lame. Kick ass movie overall, though.
 

Leon

Junior Member
This movie's previews are freaking the hell out of me, and I mean the hell out of me.

I'm kind of glad some of you say it sucked, because I feel like I may end up watching it too.
 

Matlock

Banned
The corpse in the room is the guy behind it all. And he's alive.

Edit: \/ I see someone copied and pasted from moviepooper \/
 

Coop

Member
here you go pal

Please sit tight--this one's complicated. Lawrence Gordon (Cary Elweys) and Andy (Leigh Whannell) awaken to find thelselves chained at opposite ends of a filthy room with a bloody corpse between them. They are the latest prisoners of the 'jigsaw' killer, who plays sadistic "games" in which his victims end up killing themselves or others. We are led to believe that the jigsaw killer is Zep Hindle (Michael Emerson), an orderly at Lawrence's hospital. He is seen observing the chained Lawrence and Andy through video monitors, kidnapping Lawrence's wife Allison (Monica Potter) and daughter Diana (Makenzie Vega), and planning to murder them if Lawrence fails to kill Andy by 6 am. When Lawrence's time runs out, Zep approaches Allison. Allison has managed to loosen her bonds, and she fights Zep for his gun. When the gun fires, it draws the attention of former detective Tapp (Danny Glover), who has been keeping a close eye on Lawrence's home, thinking that Lawrence was the jigsaw killer. Lawrence, meanwhile, is able to hear the struggle back at his house through the cell phone provided by the killer. Frantic over the thought of losing his wife and daughter, he resorts to the previously-unthinkable choice, and goes to work on sawing off his left foot to escape his chains. Tapp pursues Zep out of the Gordons' house, and on a high-speed chase to what appears to be a defunct sewage plant. There, as Tapp and Zep struggle, Lawrence finishes the removal of his foot, retrieves the bullet and the pistol from the corpse on the floor, and shoots Andy. Zep manages to kill Tapp, and enters the room where Lawrence and Andy lie. Zep tells Lawrence that he's sorry, but that he's too late--according to the "rules," he needed to kill Andy by 6. Andy, however, isn't quite dead; Lawrence has only wounded him in the shoulder. Andy crushes Zep's skull with the toilet tank lid. Andy remains chained, however, so it's left to the one-footed and bleeding-to-death Lawrence to crawl for help. After Lawrence departs, Andy searches Zep's body for the key to the chains. Instead of a key, he finds another tape player, which reveals that Zep was simply another victim. He was poisoned, and he had to plan the girls' kidnapping to earn the antidote. The "corpse" on the floor rises, and we learn that the real jigsaw killer is John (Tobin Bell), the terminal cancer patient seen in Lawrence's first flashback. His motive? He wants people to stop taking "being alive" for granted. John turns off the room's light and slams the door shut, re-imprisoning Andy. Lawrence's fate is never shown, but his family is seen safe.

There's just one really annoying logical flaw in all of this--how did Zep know exactly where to go when Tapp was chasing him? John did a very good job of hiding his work, and certainly didn't treat Zep as an accomplice. Bottom line: it was just a trick to keep us believing in Zep's guilt for longer. Shame on you, Mssrs. Wan and Whannell, for pulling a dirty screenplay trick. I might have forgiven you for not letting Andy use Zep's gun to shoot the lock off of his chain, but this is just plain cheating.

BTW, i got this from movie poopers...they are usually legit
 
This was complete and utter crap. And I highly anticipated it as well. The acting was terrible for one. Also, there were a lot of artsy camera things that got annoying, spinning around a person multiple times with heavy music is not cool, it's pretentious.
In my view, the twist at the end was a terrible, terrible twist. In a good film, the big twist at the end is hinted at, there are clues, and it makes it just that much more surprising and incredible at the end. This: we see one shot of the "killer", he is lying on the hospital bed, asleep, doctors talk about what they must do to save him, orderly talks about how interesting he is, that's it. No clues. It seems as if they just chose some random character they didn't explain in the beginning and make him the culprit. The story itself is somewhat familiar. Remember Phone Booth? It's a lot like that. Killer is setting up these scenarios to teach people life lessons, if they pass, they live. I liked it much more in Phone Booth, when it was slightly more original. The characters themselves are terrible, I found myself shouting at their stupidity. I don't do that. But you couldn't help it when everyone around you is yelling. So, in that sense, it did its job well. It incited the audience, and the twist was quite a blow, although stupid. All in all, there were much better things that could've been done with this film. The early trailers we saw had little to do with the film, which is terrible, because they were the best parts.
Don't see this film. Go see I > Huckabees or Shaun of the Dead or something else at your theatre. It's got to be better.
 
First of all, let me just say that this movie sucked all flavors of ass.

What really bugs me the most about this movie in general is all of these lame ass critics who said that this movie was gory. WTF movie were they watching? There's hardly any bloodshed in the movie at all. The worst thing in the movie is when Cary Elwes does what is obviously pointed out in the previews, but they cut away as soon as he draws blood. Fucking lame.

And I know Cary Elwes can act. I've seen it happen before. But this... I've seen better acting from a bunch of kindergarten kids putting on a play of Three Billy Goats Gruff. I can't think of one line he uttered where he didn't sound like a complete jagoff.

On another note, my g/f referred to this movie as "The Saw" when she bought the tickets. Of course, I mocked her badly and told her that this movie wasn't about a killer saw that runs around and kills people. God, I wish that was the case now that I've seen the movie.
 

tt_deeb

Member
The commercials for this movie made me never want to see it. There was way too many lame one-liners in the trailer that I couldn't help but yell out "this movie is going to fucking suck" One line that bothered me that I can remember is the Signs-type "there's a man in my room" by the kid.
 

Celicar

Banned
Fuck. I can't believe you all are saying it sucked. I cannot believe it is worse than The Grudge. That movie SUCKED. I still have faith that Saw will be entertaining.

I went to the theater last night around 9 and all the showings were sold out except the 12:30 showing. I got tickets, but when I came back they had closed the theater because smoke was coming from somewhere. I dunno.

So I'm going back this evening to see it. I already got tickets for the show and I got a coupon for a free popcorn and drink because of the debacle. So if the movie does suck at least I got some free shit out of it.
 
I thought Saw was mostly mediocre. It had some great ideas and some well-crafted scenes and imagery, but at the same time it was plagued by many poor aspects.

There were a few things I really liked about the film:
The mise-en-scene of the "bathroom," particularly the color scheme, is excellent. The visual design of this room just screamed for the entire bloody movie to take place in this one room. Unfortunately, it did not.

Wan's use of zooms is another excellent technique.

The scene where Adam is moving through the dark hallways and using the flash on his camera for lighting is arguably the best scene in the film. This scene was creepy and full of tension.

I found the ending to be quite clever, but it isn't the ending I wanted.

There were also some terrible aspects:
I don't even want to talk about the acting.

The film goes overkill with the frame stories. Seriously, movies built around frame stories via flashbacks can be amazing, but not with this many. Like I said above, I think the better movie would have taken place in the one room as the characters struggle with the "game."

What is the point of Danny Glover's character? He accomplishes nothing in the film, he's merely "there."

Although the film had some great technical qualities (see above), it also had some amazingly poor ones. The MTV-style/music video editing was simply ridiculous at times. When I'm watching a narrative film I do not want the diegesis to be broken by calling attention to the form of the film. What is the point of making several scenes resemble Trent Reznor music videos? In the scene with the "reverse bearclaw" girl, why call attention to the formal qualities of the film instead of emphasizing her fear? It doesn't make sense.

The ending should have been Dr. Gordon or Adam killing the other. That's it. I like how the serial killer actually "won" and achieved his grand design, but the design he achieved was too convoluted and silly.

I didn't think it was that horrible, but it was a film with wasted potential.

Oh, and one more thing:
The part where the detective gets killed by the trap with the shotguns was pretty brutal. It may have been silly, but that was some serious splatter right there.
:lol
 

XS+

Banned
B-movie bullcrap from a loser director that apparently LOVES 9 Inch Nails videos. Seven has a kinda similar theme but is worlds better. Watch that instead of this.

And that spoiler review was right, the twist was pretty contrived, the
orderly room guy was acting very calm and conniving (ie. fitting the MO of the real culprit) for a guy who's been pumped full of poison. He enjoyed keeping the family captive and never acted like he was a victim in somebody else's game.
 

RedDwarf

Smegging smeg of a smeg!
It had some ok parts, but definitely wait for a rental, it's not worth $10. I really wanted to like it, but the audience was laughing at every line during the last 20 minutes, which made it a little less suspenseful then it might have been. Cool idea, completely ridiculous killer.
 

Jim Bowie

Member
I disagree. It was indeed a bunch of great ideas pushed haphazardly together, but it still made for an incredibly creepy Halloween film. All this shite on is undeserved.
It was amazing to see him and Adam switch roles at the end
. Worth my 7 bucks.
 

LakeEarth

Member
My one problem is that one of the kills would be murder.

The asian cop tripped a wire that killed him. Setting a trap that kills someone DOES count as murder. Setting up situations where someone kills themselves isn't really murder, but that one is. Kinda hurt the idea of the killer.

I love the idea of the killer, but the movie was messed up in a bad way. It should've had double the "killer" situations. I was so disapointed where they just sped through two of them.

The director of the commercials should've directed the movie. I went in hoping that one part with the girl and the beartrap wouldn't be the only good part of the movie. I was wrong. They ruined that scene too by constantly switching between time frames and doing that crappy "Super speed up!" crap they kept doing.
 
aparisi2274 said:
HOLY SHIT!!!!


This movie fucking SUCKED!!!!!!

The actors were horrible. The dialogue was utter crap. What a worthless movie this was. The only good part was the
twist
at the end, and hell that wasnt even that shocking.

Bastards. I want my money back

I agree with this. I hate seeing the guy from Princess Pride and Robin Hood: Men in Tights as a chubby middle aged man also.
 
i just saw the movie. overall i feel like it was pretty mediocre.

the first half of the movie was very good. i would even say i enjoyed the first half a lot and it was on its way to being one of the better horror flicks of the past few years.

then came the second half. holy shit i've never seen worse acting in my life. a lot of people in the theater were laughing out loud at some of the shitty dialog. now that i think of it, i dont know whether it was the dialog or the acting itself that was such a fucking joke. but i do know that it literally ruined the movie.

i might go see the grudge, but if people are saying Saw > The Grudge then maybe i'll pass
 
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