Screw being open minded. If you dont like VF4 Evo, you aren't a fighting game fan.

Ironclad_Ninja said:
Elaborate please on what you think is human behaviour.

What he's trying to say that VF is so indepth that most of the people praising it haven't really scratched the surface themselves. They're basing their appreciation off the praise it's recieved from the hardcore fighter crowd.
 
Zaptruder said:
What he's trying to say that VF is so indepth that most of the people praising it haven't really scratched the surface themselves. They're basing their appreciation off the praise it's recieved from the hardcore fighter crowd.

I'm basing my appreciation on the fact that I had a whole fuck-ton of fun with it. The "hardcore fighter crowd" is a shower of fucking bastards, as a rule.

Wal-Mart, Best Buy, those are gonna be your bets for finding a new VF4 Evo. Anyplace that would indiscriminately buy a lot of copies of a Greatest Hits game. Circuit City would probably be a good one, too.

DFS.
 
Zaptruder said:
What he's trying to say that VF is so indepth that most of the people praising it haven't really scratched the surface themselves. They're basing their appreciation off the praise it's recieved from the hardcore fighter crowd.

Thank you.
 
SiegfriedFM said:
I've been to a few VF gatherings and played people who really know the game, so I'm pretty sure that I can judge the game's depth. And it's incredibly deep. No other fighting game has anywhere near as many possibilities in any given situation. End of discussion.

If you want that is another question.

How extensively have you played those other fighting games?
 
IAWTP

The Virtua Fighter series is one of the best 3D fighting game ever made. VF4/Evo/FT is the number one 3D fighting game in Japan. Hey, thousands of Japaneses can't be wrong. :) They are numerous VF movies coming out of Japan everyday. And when you see those insane moves, tactics made by those people, you can only admire the depth of this game. It is like a piece of art.

MAF, Aoi is a pretty cool character. Low tier and lightweight imo but can be a monster in good hands. Good throws in neutral plus 3 directions and good ring out properties. Nice reversal and sabaki. Sabaki is her main strength. If used properly, you can turn a disadvantage situation into an advantage situation for you. And her ability to cancel her elbows,sweep etc always confused me.

And please SEGA, please announce VF4:FT for the console.
 
yoshifumi said:
my only complaint about vf4 is lack of accessability...especially when playing against people...there aren't really any people near me that are good at the game, and few of my friends are willing to put the effort and time into it.

This is a reason why I like VF4. I found other games such as Soul Calibur 2 to be "too" accessable. At least in VF4, button mashers cannot win (at least not as often) against someone who has at least a bit of experience with the game or even a beginner that actually thinks/improvises during the match (instead of trying to mash as many buttons as possible...).
 
You can button mash in ANY game and have a chance of winning. It works well with Lei Fei in particular in VF4.

But yeah, VF is just so much more complex than all the other 3D fighting games. I have to go with the "lack of accessabillity" argument for why I don't play it; I'm up for learning the game, but no one else I know is, not even "the god of fighting games" himself, Leguna, who won't even play it now. :P

FortNinety said:
Thanks Mr. Psi-Ops is Game of the Year.

PWNED
 
About that "casuals are basing their praise for it on the word of hardcore fans" thing, that may be the case on some occasions, but even to the casual just picking it up, it'd be hard not to notice that little something extra, how more solid it feels next to other fighters.
'see, the last time I actively played VF was back in the mid 90's with VF2 on saturn, and to an extent, megamix.

I did not get VF3 on DC since it was such a piece of crap, so Soul Calibur, SF and DOA were my bread and butter for years until 5 days ago.

I assure you, when I took VF4 for a spin, I would have had to be blind not to feel the massive difference in grade between the VF engine and the rest.
 
"How extensively have you played those other fighting games?"

I am competent in any Street Fighter, Dead or Alive, Soul Calibur, King of Fighters, and I've played good opponents in Tekken, Marvel vs Capcom, etc. Even if I can't use it all, I know pretty much how the engines work and what you can do.
 
Anyanka said:
I don't like the way VF feels. It's too light. None of the moves have any feeling of force to them.

This has always bugged me as well.

VF is great on a technical level. I'll play it from time to time for a change but I don't think its super fun or anything. The only characters that I was ever able to get into were Lion, Pai, and Jacky. I don't really have a desire to learn anyone else for some reason which is strange b/c in other fighters I play as everyone.
 
Screw being open minded. If you dont like VF4 Evo, you aren't a fighting game fan.

And that's a hole in one, Tiger!

Here's what disturbs me the most - there are people out there who would rather play DOA over VF.
 
SiegfriedFM said:
"How extensively have you played those other fighting games?"

I am competent in any Street Fighter, Dead or Alive, Soul Calibur, King of Fighters, and I've played good opponents in Tekken, Marvel vs Capcom, etc. Even if I can't use it all, I know pretty much how the engines work and what you can do.

I could be wrong, but I highly doubt that you truly know "what you can do" in all of those systems if you're only "competent." It's hard enough to do this for one game. Watching/competing against good players, and being a good player are two entirely different things.
 
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