Scrubs or Arrested Development?

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AD is pure brilliance, Scrubs is just a decent comedy.
That's not as bad as it sounds though, there aren't many good comedies around...I'd say Curb Your Enthusiasm is up there as well, but that's about it.

I also like House a lot, but even while they've broke the forumula a few times already (last ep!) it still is getting a bit tired.
 
cawk-a cawk-a cawk!

AD has no equals.

I don't think there is a funnier moment anywhere in the history of the world then the scene were Michael's family starts doing their own versions of GOBs cawk-a-cawk-a-cawk chicken dance.
 
Zaptruder said:
I don't think there is a funnier moment anywhere in the history of the world then the scene were Michael's family starts doing their own versions of GOBs cawk-a-cawk-a-cawk chicken dance.
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I dunno, the whole bit with Mabie and Michael singing "Afternoon Delight" almost killed me.
 
AD was fantastic up until the last few episodes. It's not as smart as some people make out, but it was damn funny.

Scrubs is sappy, twee, "wacky" blandness. Or, more accurately, the doctor is hilarious and Zach Braff is painful to watch.
 
Arrested Development is the answer to your question. While I enjoy Scrubs, and think that it is a very funny show...it's no Arrested Development. If your idea of heart is blatant emotional moments coupled with sappy music that doesn't end in some sort of small joke, then you're right; AD doesn't have that. Scrubs has had some fantastic such moments (I'm thinking back to the death of Jordan's brother...hell, most times when Dr. Cox is emotional more or less makes great TV). However, this does not mean that AD has no heart. As many have said, it is a show about a family. They're neurotic, insane, hysterical...and yet to some degree they actually care about each other, which is what makes it all work. Michael's character would never work if he didn't actually care about these people; then it would be "Wacky Family Sitcom 101" where crazy in-laws terrorize the lead. Rather, this family is just so crazy...and yet there is love there. It's what keeps...kept (*sob*) AD from fallling apart at its hilarious seams.
 
Scrubs was funnier and better before it jumped the shark......goodwill towards the show will inevitably dry up as it continues its downward spiral though.

AD spent more time being clever than funny, which doesn't cut it as much.
They're neurotic, insane, hysterical...and yet to some degree they actually care about each other, which is what makes it all work. Michael's character would never work if he didn't actually care about these people; then it would be "Wacky Family Sitcom 101" where crazy in-laws terrorize the lead.
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I don't see how this gives it any more heart than say, Married With Children. Ever since MWC and Simpsons, there have been plenty of ****ed-up sitcom families that terrorize each other only to stick up for one another when the cards are down.
 
border said:
Scrubs was funnier and better before it jumped the shark......goodwill towards the show will inevitably dry up as it continues its downward spiral though.

AD spent more time being clever than funny, which doesn't cut it as much.
I don't see how this gives it any more heart than say, Married With Children. Ever since MWC and Simpsons, there have been plenty of ****ed-up sitcom families that terrorize each other only to stick up for one another when the cards are down.
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Season 5 of scrubs finished on a good note with its last few episodes for sure.

Sure the season as a whole cant touch seasons 1 or 2, but then again not much can.

:lol @ the comparison to married with children.
 
border said:
I don't see how this gives it any more heart than say, Married With Children. Ever since MWC and Simpsons, there have been plenty of ****ed-up sitcom families that terrorize each other only to stick up for one another when the cards are down.
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I didn't say it was full of it, mind you...but I think there is a difference, to an extent (Comparing AD and Scrubs in the heart column isn't even fair considering Scrubs' emotionaly based arcs). I think saying AD has no heart is just wrong, either way. Case closed. However, much like MWC and the Simpsons, which work entirely due to the fact that it isn't JUST wacky hijinxs, I think AD is/was the same way. Note how when the Simpsons forgets this, it sucks ass. True story.
 
Why the hell do people care about heart in a comedy series? I just want clever jokes, man.

I'm always flabbergasted when people go ga-ga over Futurama because of its drama episodes. I don't want drama in my "haha that guy's a nevernude" shows.
 
Arrested Development was the funniest show to come out of television in a long time.

While I like Scrubs a lot, it seems to follow the formula of 1) Something funny happens then 2) Something sad happens, 3) J.D voice-over saying "it's not every day you learn something about yourself..."
 
Arrested Development is the far more crafty and intelligent show. I personally prefer it.

But since craftiness obviously isn't the aim of the networks, who have to at least try to appeal to the masses, Scrubs is far more successful. It's one of the few network shows that somehow captures my attention while maintaining good ratings.
 
I was actually just going to make a thread about how good Scrubs is. I got the first season as a gift, and had never really watched the show, but I'm addicted to it now. The characters are amazing, both comically and emotionally, and I genuinely enjoy the emotional stories to it. I think the cuts and paradoies in the show are also really funny, and not just stupidly distracting like some parts of Family Guy. It's definetly one of the better shows I have ever seen, though I have no idea what later seasons are like.


That being said, Arrested Development is the greatest composition by mankind ever, so it wins. Forget Shakespeare, forget Bach, forget The Fat Boys, Arrested Development trumps them all.
 
Arrested Development was so consistently awesome over 3 seasons. The last season and part of season 4 of Scrubs made me feel so sad, and I was a massive fan of early Scrubs.
 
border said:
AD spent more time being clever than funny, which doesn't cut it as much.
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I agree! AD is way too scripted and clever for its own good. Half of the lines don't exactly feel natural, like something even a weird family would say. I mean, I appreciate it, but it only gets me smiling and thinking "I see what you did there" (while doing the owl face of course) where Scrubs can get me busting up with like JD's day dreams.
 
Ad all the way

I like scrubs, but they really try to ram the morality down your throat! Its like the later seasons of the MASH tv show - hamfisted and insulting to your intelligence.

Scrubs has no subtlety.
 
aku:jiki said:
I agree! AD is way too scripted and clever for its own good. Half of the lines don't exactly feel natural, like something even a weird family would say.
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That's because they weren't, the show did more looping than any other show. Also, there was a lot of improvising. The plots were the only tightly constructed things on the show. Which is what made it so great.
 
I think Scrubs is a fantastic show, really funny, and while the characters have become a little too wacky and silly now you still do care about them.

Having said that, Arrested Development is on a different level entirely. That's not to demean Scrubs in any way, it's just that Arrested Development is that good. It's like comparing other animated series to (classic) Simpsons -- you just can't compete.
 
aku:jiki said:
I agree! AD is way too scripted and clever for its own good. Half of the lines don't exactly feel natural, like something even a weird family would say. I mean, I appreciate it, but it only gets me smiling and thinking "I see what you did there" (while doing the owl face of course) where Scrubs can get me busting up with like JD's day dreams.
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I don't really care about how natural the dialogue is....it just seemed like they were more interested in parlor tricks than punchlines. "Look how we can reference a joke from 2 weeks ago....look how we can make David Cross sound gay with this double entendre...." When watching it seems like you spend more time saying "Oh, that's kind of amusing" rather than just laughing.
 
VistraNorrez said:
That's because they weren't, the show did more looping than any other show. Also, there was a lot of improvising. The plots were the only tightly constructed things on the show. Which is what made it so great.
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No, the Hurwitz and the cast have gone on the record saying there wasn't much improvising. There is the odd occasion, but they acknowledge that it seems like there is because of how the show is crafted, and the show stays strictly by the script. That's why Hurtwitz let it go: the writing was killing him along with losing his writing staff after every season.
 
Scrubs is a pretty damn funny show, but this isn't even close. AD by far. And the people saying that they don't laugh out loud? What? The shit Gob does is by far some of the funniest stuff I've ever seen on TV. AD was the best comedy on television since Seinfeld. And I love CUrb Your Enthusiasm too.
 
woodchuck said:
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Then yeah. Family is one of the underlying themes of Arrested Development.

Michael: What comes before anything? What have we always said is the most important thing?
George-Michael: Breakfast
Michael: Family
George-Michael: Family. Right. I thought you meant of the things you eat.
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That was from the very first episode. I loved the quote in the last episode too, where George-Michael answers "family" but Michael was thinking of food.

Scrubs is great, AD is one of the best sitcoms ever though. AD > Scrubs
 
Scrubs > AD for Dr. Cox/emotional pull. Though it must be said that AD is a close second in my book.

Hey people who have time to look through threads and aren't lazy: what's the running tally so far?
 
Ask me this two years ago and I would have said Scrubs, but when I blind bought AD the day season one came out, I quickly realized that the throne had been taken over.

Nothing I've ever seen has captured the magic and sheer brilliance of AD. I've seen every episode literally over 5 times each and each time I find something new and clever.

When you have a sight gag that is explained 20+ episodes later, you know you have some clever assed people. I don't know how they write this shit, but it's unbelievable.

Scrubs still rocks, though.
 
ocelittle said:
Ask me this two years ago and I would have said Scrubs, but when I blind bought AD the day season one came out, I quickly realized that the throne had been taken over.

Nothing I've ever seen has captured the magic and sheer brilliance of AD. I've seen every episode literally over 5 times each and each time I find something new and clever.

When you have a sight gag that is explained 20+ episodes later, you know you have some clever assed people. I don't know how they write this shit, but it's unbelievable.

Scrubs still rocks, though.
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Couldn't have said it better, except I don't think Scrubs is funny at all...
All the characters are annoying and dull to me :|
 
I thought the last season of Scrubs pretty much stunk on ice. I don't know what Braff's problem was, but he really ruined the JD character IMO.

So yes, Scrubs used to amazing, but nothing will ever top AD.

Anyone else have Final Countdown as their ringtone? I had to ask someone what the song was, because I didn't know it was a real tune.
 
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Scrubs better than AD?... COME ON!
 
I've already voted so i'm not voting again but i'd just like to add this.

Scrubs = better if you plan on just watching an episode here and there

Arrested = better if you follow a few episodes.

Scrubs also has more self contained / visual / 1 liner jokes whereas Arrested Development's joke are a bit more less obvious which makes it harder to "get into". Once you understand how AD works, it's not hard to see why i consider it one of the best comedies ever. If the show lasted 5 seasons and maintained the quality it had then it would easily have toppled Seinfeld.

I also prefer the characters of AD, everyone has their own unique role and the actors play it out very well. GOB > Dr Cox.
 
I realize the issue has already been decided, but I have to put my vote in for AD (even though Scrubs is still a good show). I am counting the days until the season 3 DVD just os I can have a AD marathon and watch the entire series.

As for convincing your friend, you just need to show him this thread. You could probably do this on any internet forum and get the same results, aside from the official Scrubs forum or something.
 
"You know Michael, if I may take off my acting pants for a moment, and pull my analrapist stocking over my head..."

Arrested Development FTW.
 
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