Seems like most third-party developers will not support Switch 2

I think support will come in time.
Nintendo apparently didn't send out that many dev kits, and I imagine a lot of devs are still figuring out what they can and can't get running properly on the system, not to mention monitoring how well the console is selling.

I imagine over the next year we'll start seeing more and more games announced for it.


RoboFu said:
The one thing I hope happens is that the switch holds back the ridiculous graphics race. Make the switch 2 the base spec and make the ps5's life longer.
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Same. It's also why I like the increasing popularity of these PC handhelds.
I honestly wouldn't mind if most third party games moving forward are made with the Switch 2 in mind. It should ensure they run with decent resolution and framerates on Ps5 and mid to low end PCs for the foreseeable future.
 
Parazels said:
Probably Nintendo wants to announce third-party games in the next Direct. Otherwise the Direct would be shallow due to only a few exclusives.
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Maybe. I hope the next one isn't strictly labeled a "partner showcase" though..
 
Lokaum D+ said:
i m 100% sure that SW2 ll be a heaven for indie third party games, i wanna see how it ll fair among the big titles since CP77 is already looking like pushing SW2 to its limit.
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Think it will be just like last gen. Switch 1 got ports of PS4 games like Witcher 3. This time, however, Switch 2 isn't taking publishers by surprise so there is probably more already planned. So we'll have a few years where ports will happen, but then when PS6 comes along, that will taper down
 
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Raven117 said:
Huh?

There is absolutely no doubt there will be third party support. Maybe not out of the gate, but it will be there. To think otherwise is silly nonsense.
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Oh I 100% agree with you, I was referring to OPs post / this thread's existence lol
 
Fbh said:
I think support will come in time.
Nintendo apparently didn't send out that many dev kits, and I imagine a lot of devs are still figuring out what they can and can't get running properly on the system, not to mention monitoring how well the console is selling.

I imagine over the next year we'll start seeing more and more games announced for it.




Same. It's also why I like the increasing popularity of these PC handhelds.
I honestly wouldn't mind if most third party games moving forward are made with the Switch 2 in mind. It should ensure they run with decent resolution and framerates on Ps5 and mid to low end PCs for the foreseeable future.
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We also got the best innovations when devs had to think of new ways to use the limited hardware they had.
 
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Lokaum D+ said:
i m 100% sure that SW2 ll be a heaven for indie third party games, i wanna see how it ll fair among the big titles since CP77 is already looking like pushing SW2 to its limit.
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I think that games that runs at 60fps on the big brothers are going to run at 30fps in SW2 with *almost the same settings and obviously lower resolution… Games that runs at 30fps on the big brothers are going to run at 30fps but with further lowers settings and resolution, especially the CPU intensives ones. But i think that the SW2 is capable to run everything available on the big brothers, also i have the feeling that Devs are going to have less trouble with the SW2 than the Series S to port games.
 
I strongly doubt they will ignore a platform that is selling this much and has DLSS capabilities. Maybe initially it will seem like that but I think there will be lots of third party on the switch.
 
DenchDeckard said:
people are desperate for this video games machine thats aimed at all ages to fail.

its wild to see.
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Weird how some people actually seem vested in wanting to see Switch 2 fail, despite all evidence suggesting its doing and will do the opposite.

Wonder what they are so afraid of if Switch 2 succeeds...
 
Gambit2483 said:
Weird how some people actually seem vested in wanting to see Switch 2 fail, despite all evidence suggesting its doing and will do the opposite.

Wonder what they are so afraid of if Switch 2 succeeds...
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I'm just pointing facts, lol. Switch 2 is struggling with third-party support, while most was thinking (and wanting) the opposite.

First the excuse was "they don't have officially reveal the console yet", and now are saying that developers don't even get the devkits. That's ridiculous and there's absolute zero evidence of that.
 
kaizenkko said:
I'm just pointing facts, lol. Switch 2 is struggling with third-party support, while most was thinking (and wanting) the opposite.

First the excuse was "they don't have officially reveal the console yet", and now are saying that developers don't even get the devkits. That's ridiculous and there's absolute zero evidence of that.
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Dude, the Switch 2 only have one day on the market 😂😂 WTH 🤣🤣
 
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Think about this. The Steamdeck was launched in Feburary 2022 and it has a total of 3.7 to 4 million units combined worldwide sold. Switch 2 sold 3 million units in 48 hours.
Tech specs do not mean anything really to most users and casual gamers. Its convenience and fun factor. They dont want to fiddle with settings, wattage, etc. Were a fringe group of gamer and I am happy that
switch 2 owners are enjoying the day 1 offerings I cant wait to see year 2-3 titles with better support and developers get to grips with the systems strengths and DLSS improvements.
 
Dorfdad said:
Think about this. The Steamdeck was launched in Feburary 2022 and it has a total of 3.7 to 4 million units combined worldwide sold. Switch 2 sold 3 million units in 48 hours.
Tech specs do not mean anything really to most users and casual gamers. Its convenience and fun factor. They dont want to fiddle with settings, wattage, etc. Were a fringe group of gamer and I am happy that
switch 2 owners are enjoying the day 1 offerings I cant wait to see year 2-3 titles with better support and developers get to grips with the systems strengths and DLSS improvements.
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According to the report 3 million in 24 hours, Could be close to 4 right now. Can't wait for the Japanese report o the Nintendo PR tweet.
 
I think the power gap remains too big to expect consistent third party support going forward

Even CP77 which 1) remains somewhat a last gen game and 2) is the launch visual showcase, appears to be heavily compromised vs. next gen versions (hitchy framerate, poor LOD, drastic reduction in NPC and cars count, dowgraded visual effects).

Switch 2 would have been great releasing during the cross gen period, but as devs are finally starting to unshackle from PS4 limitations, I don't see a lot of them remaining constrained by the lack of horse power (ie RE9 which will be the first next gen RE and will supposedly push the envelope visually and in terms of gameplay). We'll see
 
kaizenkko said:
First the excuse was "they don't have officially reveal the console yet", and now are saying that developers don't even get the devkits. That's ridiculous and there's absolute zero evidence of that.
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Well, it is ridiculous but Nintendo does a lot of ridiculous things.
 
Flabagast said:
I think the power gap remains too big to expect consistent third party support going forward

Even CP77 which 1) remains somewhat a last gen game and 2) is the launch visual showcase, appears to be heavily compromised vs. next gen versions (hitchy framerate, poor LOD, drastic reduction in NPC and cars count, dowgraded visual effects).

Switch 2 would have been great releasing during the cross gen period, but as devs are finally starting to unshackle from PS4 limitations, I don't see a lot of them remaining constrained by the lack of horse power (ie RE9 which will be the first next gen RE and will supposedly push the envelope visually and in terms of gameplay). We'll see
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A fundamental issue in current industry conditions is that with AAA titles taking ages to develop for and ballooning budgets, it's going to be less and less reasonable to skip the market leader. You're going to see more third party developers doing bespoke ports when needed and leveraging the system's feature set to make it happen. Not doing that is just leaving money on the table. The demand is there.
 
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Dorfdad said:
Think about this. The Steamdeck was launched in Feburary 2022 and it has a total of 3.7 to 4 million units combined worldwide sold. Switch 2 sold 3 million units in 48 hours.
Tech specs do not mean anything really to most users and casual gamers. Its convenience and fun factor. They dont want to fiddle with settings, wattage, etc. Were a fringe group of gamer and I am happy that
switch 2 owners are enjoying the day 1 offerings I cant wait to see year 2-3 titles with better support and developers get to grips with the systems strengths and DLSS improvements.
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There's any reliable source at moment telling that Switch 2 sold 3 million consoles. I'm not saying that's impossible, but people are just getting a post from a Nintendo fanboy as an trustable source.
 
Dorfdad said:
Think about this. The Steamdeck was launched in Feburary 2022 and it has a total of 3.7 to 4 million units combined worldwide sold. Switch 2 sold 3 million units in 48 hours.
Tech specs do not mean anything really to most users and casual gamers. Its convenience and fun factor. They dont want to fiddle with settings, wattage, etc. Were a fringe group of gamer and I am happy that
switch 2 owners are enjoying the day 1 offerings I cant wait to see year 2-3 titles with better support and developers get to grips with the systems strengths and DLSS improvements.
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Just look at the retarded fanboyism in this thread alone for the copium of Switch 2's early success. Some of these fanatics of other systems are literally just making shit up out of thin air to deal with what they know to be more of a success than their favorite system. It's like this bubble they live in is filled with helium and laughing gas.
 
phant0m said:
Oh I 100% agree with you, I was referring to OPs post / this thread's existence lol
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Oh gotcha! Lol.

The business "acumen" of some posters on Gaf amazes me. Like, fucking of course there will be third party support. How much? Don't know. But there will be plenty.
 
Raven117 said:
Oh gotcha! Lol.

The business "acumen" of some posters on Gaf amazes me. Like, fucking of course there will be third party support. How much? Don't know. But there will be plenty.
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Exactly, And when Nintendo makes their first Switch 2 partner showcase they are going to move the goal post to "looks like a PS2 game"…
 
MayauMiao said:
What facts?

www.gamespot.com

All The Nintendo Switch 2 Games (Confirmed And Rumored) So Far

More than 50 Nintendo Switch 2 games have already been confirmed.
www.gamespot.com www.gamespot.com
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Most of these games are old PS4 ports. lol

What facts? Many games that were show this week, like Resident Evil 9, Mortal Shell 2, 007, Onimusha, Stranger Than Heaven, Bloodstained, Digimon and Metal Gear Solid don't have even mention Switch 2. Even games announce after Switch reveal, like Mafia and Gears Remaster have mention it. It's pretty clear that like last gen, most AAA third-party games are skip Nintendo console.
 
kaizenkko said:
Most of these games are old PS4 ports. lol

What facts? Many games that were show this week, like Resident Evil 9, Mortal Shell 2, 007, Onimusha, Stranger Than Heaven, Bloodstained, Digimon and Metal Gear Solid don't have even mention Switch 2. Even games announce after Switch reveal, like Mafia and Gears Remaster have mention it. It's pretty clear that like last gen, most AAA third-party games are skip Nintendo console.
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Lol, Nintendo always announce their third party games in the Nintendo directs.
 
kaizenkko said:
Most of these games are old PS4 ports. lol

What facts? Many games that were show this week, like Resident Evil 9, Mortal Shell 2, 007, Onimusha, Stranger Than Heaven, Bloodstained, Digimon and Metal Gear Solid don't have even mention Switch 2. Even games announce after Switch reveal, like Mafia and Gears Remaster have mention it. It's pretty clear that like last gen, most AAA third-party games are skip Nintendo console.
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It happened with PS5/Xbone during launch too. For you to compare 3rd parties of an already 5 year old consoles is just copium and a desperate attempt to spread FUD.
 
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kaizenkko said:
That's a lie. Every game with a Switch version that was reveal in a major event never have keep this info for a Nintendo event.
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All the big games were always announced in a Nintendo direct: The Witcher 3, Doom, Portal, Dark Souls, Fortnite, Fifas… Is a fact dude.
 
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we must bump kaizenkko kaizenkko threead every times nintendos announce third party ahahaha bookmarked

kaizenkko said:
That's a lie. Every game with a Switch version that was reveal in a major event never have keep this info for a Nintendo event.
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kaizenkko said:
After State of Play and Summer Game Fest, I can't barely remember how many third-party games get announced for Switch 2. For everyone expecting a strong support for it, I think these are bad news.
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kaizenkko said:
I'm just pointing facts, lol. Switch 2 is struggling with third-party support, while most was thinking (and wanting) the opposite.

First the excuse was "they don't have officially reveal the console yet", and now are saying that developers don't even get the devkits. That's ridiculous and there's absolute zero evidence of that.
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kaizenkko said:
Most of these games are old PS4 ports. lol

What facts? Many games that were show this week, like Resident Evil 9, Mortal Shell 2, 007, Onimusha, Stranger Than Heaven, Bloodstained, Digimon and Metal Gear Solid don't have even mention Switch 2. Even games announce after Switch reveal, like Mafia and Gears Remaster have mention it. It's pretty clear that like last gen, most AAA third-party games are skip Nintendo console.
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SILKYSMOOTH30FPS said:
Explain.
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Plenty of people, with functioning brains, used their Switch 1 as their main console. Many gamers for example aren't bothered with pure power and so they are perfectly fine with just owning one console each gen. And in their case it was the Switch. I'm thinking of selling my PS5 and just getting whatever multiplatform games that will come to the Switch 2. I find it relaxing only having one console and it has enough power for me. It might be different once RDR3 releases, but then again I can wait to play it on Switch 3.
 
Trilobit said:
Plenty of people, with functioning brains, used their Switch 1 as their main console. Many gamers for example aren't bothered with pure power and so they are perfectly fine with just owning one console each gen. And in their case it was the Switch. I'm thinking of selling my PS5 and just getting whatever multiplatform games that will come to the Switch 2. I find it relaxing only having one console and it has enough power for me. It might be different once RDR3 releases, but then again I can wait to play it on Switch 3.
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Exactly, plenty of PEOPLE. If you re read what i said, i clearly stated GAMER. Big difference between a nerd that follows gaming, knows what's coming out, cares about frame rate, etc, and a single mom in her 30s that plays Animal Crossing once per two weeks. So yes, if we're talking about just people, plenty do own the switch as their main, but those same people don't even own anything else, and there's a good chance they don't even know how the newest microsoft console is even called. I am not talking about those kind of "gamers".
 
RoboFu said:
The one thing I hope happens is that the switch holds back the ridiculous graphics race. Make the switch 2 the base spec and make the ps5's life longer.
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By the time switch2 has solid number of units we will be in the next gen, so it will be back to ps5/xsx/pc vs og switch situation.
Those next gen games(not saying crossgen which will end around 2030, many of thouse could be possibly ported still) will have raytracing as a base and obviously even higher graphic fidely we got now, many next gen games will be close to or as impressive as gta6 trailers, wont be ez to cut them down enough to fit into switch2 w/o them looking/feeling durning play a lot different.
 
The new Nintendo Switch 2 will get more 3rd Party Support than the PlayStation 5 will receive 1st Party Support in the End :D

Sorry, but it's the Truth ;)
 
SILKYSMOOTH30FPS said:
Exactly, plenty of PEOPLE. If you re read what i said, i clearly stated GAMER. Big difference between a nerd that follows gaming, knows what's coming out, cares about frame rate, etc, and a single mom in her 30s that plays Animal Crossing once per two weeks. So yes, if we're talking about just people, plenty do own the switch as their main, but those same people don't even own anything else, and there's a good chance they don't even know how the newest microsoft console is even called. I am not talking about those kind of "gamers".
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In my usage of "people" I'm talking about gamers like me. Not moms/candy crush players. Plenty of people like me used to be very occupied in the past with what console was the most powerful one etc., but now we just want to play the games on one console and it doesn't matter if they look a bit iffy in comparison. I for example enjoyed The Long Dark a lot more on my Switch than on my PS5.
 
SILKYSMOOTH30FPS said:
Exactly, plenty of PEOPLE. If you re read what i said, i clearly stated GAMER. Big difference between a nerd that follows gaming, knows what's coming out, cares about frame rate, etc, and a single mom in her 30s that plays Animal Crossing once per two weeks. So yes, if we're talking about just people, plenty do own the switch as their main, but those same people don't even own anything else, and there's a good chance they don't even know how the newest microsoft console is even called. I am not talking about those kind of "gamers".
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Yo, you can keep your clubhouse of "rEaL gaMeRs" .
 
Trilobit said:
In my usage of "people" I'm talking about gamers like me. Not moms/candy crush players. Plenty of people like me used to be very occupied in the past with what console was the most powerful one etc., but now we just want to play the games on one console and it doesn't matter if they look a bit iffy in comparison. I for example enjoyed The Long Dark a lot more on my Switch than on my PS5.
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It doesn't look at bit iffy, tho. It runs poorly, it looks extremely outdated (the switch that is. don't know about the switch 2), uses resolutions from the mid 2000s and so on. Ignoring all of this is just not wanting the best experience of whichever title you're playing. Why? Why would you ignore all of this just to play on a system that says Nintendo on the box? I could understand if you're traveling a lot, but if not, i see no reasons, not even a small one.
 
VGA-Games said:
The new Nintendo Switch 2 will get more 3rd Party Support than the PlayStation 5 will receive 1st Party Support in the End :D

Sorry, but it's the Truth ;)
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It will receive more third party games than Nintendo first party game too… not sure it was the boast you thought it was ;).
 
SJRB said:
You mean developers releasing games for PS5 and high end PC's won't release that game on the "new" console with hardware specs from like 10 years ago?

Outrageous.
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*Looks at when Ampere was released*
You may need to get a better calendar.

Edit: The PS5's hardware is from around the same time btw. Take that as you will
 
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It was reported that very few developers received dev kits so far, right?
Anyway, it seems generation of late port wait for Nintendo fans yet again. 4th time is the charm.
 
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