sixteen-bit
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Lol I actually have Dezaemon 2 for Saturn. Please include this in the March thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYhNuPQi-08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYhNuPQi-08
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Sega Saturn Appreciation and Emulation Thread
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IrishNinja
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eh...we're four days in; i say go for it teknos!
Im gonna need some help on this one then (well more than the screenshots from last time and the bit of VF kids/remix info).
Should there be some main featured titles?
The two big NA releases were Darius Gaiden and Galactic Attack.
There's a lot (a lot) of import shmups, but the most popular are probably DoDonPachi, Battle Garegga and Radiant Silvergun (even though I have none of them)
bodeiseifer
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I don't think I've ever played the original on that collection, maybe I did and was disgusted with how it looked, but salamander 2 isn't affected by what you mention is it?
Either way it looks awesome, the sequel does anyway.
sixteen-bit
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All three games on the compilation have the same resolution and are affected in the same way, I'm afraid.
Is this the only shooter that has resolution issues on the Saturn, to your knowledge?
I have no issue buying the PS version over the Saturn version. It's hard to get good info on a lot of this stuff, though. Good looking out.
IrishNinja
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lookit oneida & that sexy TATE setup!
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yeah, those first 2 are common and way more affordable, good calls. of the latter, most would emulate i think, cause damn the last 2 are pricey.
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yeah, those first 2 are common and way more affordable, good calls. of the latter, most would emulate i think, cause damn the last 2 are pricey.
IrishNinja
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sixteen-bit
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i am a butthurt babby that can only drool in wonder at shiney objects
I haven't tested the Salamander or Gradius packs, but this problem shouldn't affect all games uniformly.
Salamander and Life Force runs in 256x224, but other games (Parodius, Gokujou Parodius, Sexy Parodius, Salamander 2) run in 288x224. None of the systems support this resolution, but certain versions (I still need to verify which) either pillarbox it or give the option expand the screen an extra 16 pixels on each side. Going from memory, I THINK the Saturn versions let you expand the screen in Parodius Deluxe Pack, and both versions let you do this in Sexy Parodius.
There's a weird discrepancy in versious of Jikkyou Oshaberi Parodius. The original was made for the SFC and runs in 256x224. The PS1 version runs in the same resolution. The Saturn version runs in 320x224 but it expands the sides of the screen, at least during gameplay. So the pixel ratios are a little off between the Sat vs. PS1/SFC, though neither is really better or worse IMO. The exception is with the menus in the Saturn version, which Konami never bothered to redraw for the higher resolution, so they look blotchy and ugly
That and the Saturn version of Jikkyou (as does Saturn Castlevania) doesn't have transparencies. Also it's missing the little school chime in the beginning of Stage 2, unlike the other versions which is weird. Seems Konami just couldn't get a handle on this console. And it's a shame because technically, the Saturn should have got the better version of all these 2D games, but they're at least more than playable and that's all I can ask for at this point.
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That's mostly the Saturn's fault though. Why on earth didn't Sega implement support for 256x224, considering the number of older 2D games that used it?
But, it is true that Konami didn't give much support for the Saturn. Castlevania was outsourced to another team, and I'm assuming Suikoden was as well. The Parodius games, IIRC, were released simultaneously on both platforms.
Shadow Hog
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Dumb question, but how does Sonic Jam handle Sonic 2's special stages, then? Those are also 256x224, in the original Genesis version...
sixteen-bit
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Funny enough, we discussed this literally a year ago
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=49192743&postcount=1423
You coulda let his question simmer for one more day!
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It's on Saturn shoot-em-ups, right? I'll see what I can do!
Shadow Hog
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Son of a
Yep mostly domestic releases and some cheap / common jp titles mentioned earlier.
The heavy hitters like hyper duel are for another month.
My Saturn and 4 in 1 action replay both arrived today! Everything seems to be in working order. The console was crazy dirty though. Why don't people clean their stuff before they ship? Anyways, it came with Robotica. The game seems okay, but I can't really play it, since I have a sprained thumb. Now I just gotta wait until the s-video cable arrives.
So any recommendations on import games? I'd prefer if they were easy to understand without having to read Japanese.
So any recommendations on import games? I'd prefer if they were easy to understand without having to read Japanese.
Shadow Hog
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IIRC, Willy Wombat has full English voice acting, despite the Japanese text.
Note that I did not say good English voice acting.
I suppose you could get Dracula X: Noctune in the Moonlight, assuming you've played Symphony of the Night before and want to experience a new character (Maria, who plays totally different from the variant of her included in the Dracula X Chronicles PSP version) and some extra areas, but worse framerate, transparencies et al.
Other than that, fighters and shmups are really your best bet. Fortunately, they're also the Saturn's strong point.
I'd suggest Radiant Silvergun if it weren't so expensive. All you really need to know with that one is that some octahedron-shaped rock referred to as The Stone-Like has come alive and killed everyone on Earth - but since you weren't on Earth at the time, you get to go down to try and restock your ship, but then the Stone-Like sends everything it's got after you in an attempt to kill you and
some of your team dies and then your robot pal sets up an eternal recurrence loop involving the death and rebirth of mankind and
I've always wondered that myself. Especially when looking at auctions, why not clean things up before you take pictures? It really doesnt take that much extra effort.
sixteen-bit
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Does it stretch Choumakaimura?
Thanks for the advice. Holy crap, some of those games are expensive. I couldn't find any of the ones you mentioned for under $60.
Edit: No, I lied. I found Willy Wombat for pretty cheap on Ebay. Debating whether to pick it up or not.
I think if Odin Sphere is your favorite game it's definitely worth having. Just play alongside a script.
PepsimanVsJoe
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Well it's arguably the most repetitive of the bunch. There are a lot of dungeons and they consist entirely of hallways. The combat is similar to Odin Sphere though more limited (fights are almost always 1 vs 1 and Gradriel has less moves). There's an item/equipment/food system. Items tend to be overpowered, equipment tends to be useless (they degrade when the player takes damage), and food is ridiculous if abused (raising the max HP is cheap). The soundtrack is mostly silence, town themes, and battle themes.
It has its Vanillaware charm, great artwork, some impressive animations (dem dragons), altogether however I can't recommend it. I gave PC a pass originally because it was the first Vanillaware game I played. Nowadays....ehhh. Kinda wish Gradriel would find her way into Dragon's Crown via DLC.
On a side note, I quite like the "attract" version of the game intro. It looks like something straight out of an arcade game. Massive scrolling text (in engrish), images of the characters/villains, summarizes the entirety of the game's storyline.
IrishNinja
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Princess Crown is gorgeous, but moonspeak-y
oh man...you're the guy from HG101, no? or just similar avatar? if the former i'd really dig this! if the latter...still good, haha
it's also hard to find on the cheap these days, was eyeing that & the one with Mercs but especially that one
oh man...you're the guy from HG101, no? or just similar avatar? if the former i'd really dig this! if the latter...still good, haha
it's also hard to find on the cheap these days, was eyeing that & the one with Mercs but especially that one
sixteen-bit
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be attitude for gains sounds like a bodybuilder's motto
KDash31987
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I don't know about the last two, but the port of II suffers from randomly missing sound effects and voice clips, and a split second of mid match loading the first time a projectile is used.
CartridgeBlower
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I think UMK3 is generally regarded as the better port. Trilogy on Saturn was supposedly a lazy port done months after the PlayStation and N64 versions by a different company. I think UMK3 was given more care because it was the only home port of that version at the time.
Could be wrong though.
KDash31987
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Yeah, I remember reading bad things about the Saturn version of Trilogy. I've never played it myself, though. I have the N64 version. I thought about getting the PlayStation version, but never did. I remember playing it at a cousins house, and it having horrible loading times...but it does have a lot more characters and the classic versions of characters, though. But I might just stick with the loading-less N64 version. I've always been pretty happy with it.
I might look into getting Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 on the Saturn. That and Deception are the only games in the series I don't own in any form, not counting the spin-offs.
I might look into getting Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 on the Saturn. That and Deception are the only games in the series I don't own in any form, not counting the spin-offs.
Canadian Psycho
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Have you tried Boomerang? If so, which is more enjoyable?
I'm wondering if they are different enough to warrant purchasing both, but I've sometimes heard they are a bit redundant.
I'm wondering if they are different enough to warrant purchasing both, but I've sometimes heard they are a bit redundant.